December Game Thread
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annnnd Malkin's hurt again after sliding backwards butt first into the boards. No weight on his left leg.
Clearly Sid was faking. Where do you think Orpik learned? There's a progression...you follow your captain.
4 straight by the Flyers and they lead 4-1 halfway through the 3rd in Washington. 2 straight really strong efforts after the stinker in Chicago. Another good fame from the Giroux line, they have 2 of the goals (1 each for Giroux and Voracek).
4 straight by the Flyers and they lead 4-1 halfway through the 3rd in Washington. 2 straight really strong efforts after the stinker in Chicago. Another good fame from the Giroux line, they have 2 of the goals (1 each for Giroux and Voracek).
Another Penguin with a head shot. This time Burtozzi against D'amigo. D'amigo's head was down a little while reaching for the puck but he definitely went high...
He got 2 for a check to the head. Will be interesting to see if he gets a call from Shanahan for it.
He got 2 for a check to the head. Will be interesting to see if he gets a call from Shanahan for it.
Pens Inside Scoop @PensInsideScoop 8m
Bortuzzo blows up D'Amigo in the neutral zone. He's done. Athletic trainer helps him to his feet and locker room. Bortz in box. #Pens PK -SK
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Bortuzzo blows up D'Amigo in the neutral zone. He's done. Athletic trainer helps him to his feet and locker room. Bortz in box. #Pens PK -SK
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I hope this garage league grows a pair and does something about this unbridled aggression against the Pen-
...oh.
edit: retweeted by the Penguins? Fuck right off, that's just delicious
...oh.
edit: retweeted by the Penguins? Fuck right off, that's just delicious
And yet the gloves stay on when challenged.
Edit: If Bortuzzo gets suspended, they could have 3 guys suspended at the same time. Has that happened before?
Edit: If Bortuzzo gets suspended, they could have 3 guys suspended at the same time. Has that happened before?
Besides that hit, I've liked Bertuzzo's game. He's been loud. He had the assist on the Crosby goal, and he fought with Bodie earlier in what was a pretty good tilt.
He probably could've made a nice hit on that play without the follow through. Went for the big hit and probably has a suspension on the way.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0jVLp4JKY4&feature=share&list=UUxplsYwPGQVKyiopBAdCMYA&index=3
He probably could've made a nice hit on that play without the follow through. Went for the big hit and probably has a suspension on the way.
EDIT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0jVLp4JKY4&feature=share&list=UUxplsYwPGQVKyiopBAdCMYA&index=3
The angle from the Penguins' zone makes it look very bad. The other two angles I've seen only look a little bit bad. I think they're both to blame there, what is he doing with his head down in the neutral zone like that? Similar to when Hertl got blown up earlier this season. Yeah he needs to be a lot more careful in a dangerous part of the ice, but that doesn't give the opponent carte blanche to tee off on his face. He had his head down for a while and the defender didn't care
Greg29fan said:
He had no opportunity to hit him in the shoulder. He hit him in the face. Borderline suspendable, IMO, but very reckless nonetheless.
@NHLPlayerSafety: In looking at Bortuzzo/D'Amigo, we see unavoidable head contact on an otherwise full body hit. Will not be pursuing supplemental discipline.
That's the correct decision IMO.
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Lack of suspension for Bortuzzo won't upset #leafs. Feeling was that the height difference between him and D'Amigo led to the incident.
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Chris Johnston @reporterchris1m
Lack of suspension for Bortuzzo won't upset #leafs. Feeling was that the height difference between him and D'Amigo led to the incident.
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Greg29fan said:
The more I think about it and look at the replays, the more I agree. There just wasn't any way he could have not hit him in the head there
Yep. Hit him fully in the face but it was either that or get headbutted in the chest. D'Amigo was low and not looking and Bortuzzo wasn't even skating.
If the player is skating face first, and you check him through the face on the way to his body, that should be a clean shot. The elbow came up/out after the hit, and I can see that being interpreted wrongly as leading with the elbow, but prior to the hit the elbow was in. Tough hit, but not a suspension.
Yeah, the elbow flying up like it did was the one thing that made me look a few more times. But I'm not sure what else he could have done to avoid the hit.
I'm usually the first in line to railroad a penguin player but I agree with player safety in this one. Keep your head up dude
Tom Wilson just destroyed Brayden Schenn.
It was definitely a charge, but the outcome was much worse because Schenn turned toward the boards. I guess I can see the rationale for calling a major there, but I wouldn't suspend Wilson for it.
It was definitely a charge, but the outcome was much worse because Schenn turned toward the boards. I guess I can see the rationale for calling a major there, but I wouldn't suspend Wilson for it.
Even with Schenn turning, Wilson still hits him more from the side than the numbers. Absolutely a charge but I think it looked worse than it really was.
Because it draws a penalty. Guys are doing that way too much nowadays, basically willfully putting themselves in danger.TheShynessClinic said:
Some of the ugly hits this year, I don't even know how I feel. Shanahan has a TOUGH job.
That was very reckless by Wilson and it looked like he was trying to hurt him. But Schenn really puts himself in danger there at the last second and that is what makes the hit so ugly.
edit: Upon further review, Schenn is pretty fucked whatever he does. Wilson is absolutely flying, that's charging and boarding. He skates from halfway across the ice and hits a guy that's a bad distance from the boards. Doesn't have to be from behind to be boarding, you can't hit Schenn there no matter what way he's facing. Should be 5 games
That was very reckless by Wilson and it looked like he was trying to hurt him. But Schenn really puts himself in danger there at the last second and that is what makes the hit so ugly.
edit: Upon further review, Schenn is pretty fucked whatever he does. Wilson is absolutely flying, that's charging and boarding. He skates from halfway across the ice and hits a guy that's a bad distance from the boards. Doesn't have to be from behind to be boarding, you can't hit Schenn there no matter what way he's facing. Should be 5 games
That's charging AND boarding. Schenn turned because that was his natural instinct - he sees Wilson, a big dude absolutely flying at him, for like a second before impact. Maybe that was his only hope of not getting destroyed. I think it's asinine to suggest that he was just trying to draw a penalty - guys don't have the time to think that through, and nobody wants to be paralyzed for a power play. People here seemed pretty upset when Don Cherry blamed Patrice Bergeron for the Randy Jones hit.
With the speed Wilson had built up, and the distance Schenn was from the boards (regardless of whether Schenn turned into the hit, he was still a few feet from the boards and was going to be thrown into them), that hit was incredibly dangerous. If that's a two minute penalty, I'm a little scared for the sport. That hit was orders of magnitude more dangerous than Orpick's on Erickson (ignoring for a second Loui's concussion history), a hit which had many here up in arms.
What happened to the old "intent to injure" rule?
With the speed Wilson had built up, and the distance Schenn was from the boards (regardless of whether Schenn turned into the hit, he was still a few feet from the boards and was going to be thrown into them), that hit was incredibly dangerous. If that's a two minute penalty, I'm a little scared for the sport. That hit was orders of magnitude more dangerous than Orpick's on Erickson (ignoring for a second Loui's concussion history), a hit which had many here up in arms.
What happened to the old "intent to injure" rule?
It's not even remotely possible that Schenn was even thinking about turning in order to draw a penalty. I was going over it again in my head, setting off smoke alarms left and right, and reading some of the posts here and believe that there's something to the idea that the recklessness of the hit, position of the player being hit in relation to the boards, and general idea that attacking players are at least partially liable for injuries that occur due to their negligent actions probably do warrant a suspension of some sort. If Wilson doesn't charge, then I don't think there are grounds to more than call it a good hockey check. We and the NHL throw the word "intent" around, but the real criterion for so-called wrongdoing warranting a possible suspension is negligence.
I am not a Shanny fan, but it's not personal. There's nothing in his resume that suggests he should be anything more than a consultant where discipline is concerned. That job should be held by someone who has, first and foremost, an appreciation and understanding for how rules of law work. In the decisions handed down from his office, it's hard to see a suggestion of a pattern. If I decided who lived and died, I would have long ago sent Willard upriver for him. But it's an institutional problem, and I'm sure he tries his best. He needs more of an ala carte style to his determinations.
Sorry, Kenney, but ngruz is right here. There's no way Schenn was turning to draw a penalty - he was turned away from Wilson and couldn't even see him coming.ngruz25 said: