Daniel Theis: More beast per-pound

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Don’t forget about one Aron Baynes who also has a two year $10M deal. ;)
The Celtics would love to have Baynes, but Theis is a better value right now and I don't think it's that close. He has a lot of extra length and isn't 33 and constantly breaking down.
 

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There was a long stretch was Kanter was very effective, but it's been awhile now where he hasn't. He had some injury bugs here and there, so that might be part of it. It seems like Theis has really come on strong during this middle third of the season, and TimeLord has also played well. Very now and then Kanter is getting in there, but it doesn't seem like he's been as effective on the offensive end as he was earlier in the season. I feel like he's been missing a lot of his low post shots, where he was automatic earlier in the season.
 

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There was a long stretch was Kanter was very effective, but it's been awhile now where he hasn't. He had some injury bugs here and there, so that might be part of it. It seems like Theis has really come on strong during this middle third of the season, and TimeLord has also played well. Very now and then Kanter is getting in there, but it doesn't seem like he's been as effective on the offensive end as he was earlier in the season. I feel like he's been missing a lot of his low post shots, where he was automatic earlier in the season.
Yes. Kanter hasn't been the same since he injured his hip. He's hobbled and trying to play through it. It's been glaring. Points/rebounds down since the beginning of Feb (when he returned from the injury)

Since his game is predicated on moving guys around down low to get boards he needs to be 100% to be effective.

Baynes/Theis/RWill would be a great big rotation. Large improvement over Kanter.
I like Kanter and wouldn't be opposed to Danny bringing him back along with signing Baynes on the cheap. Keep TL around (for $2MM/yr) and see if he can stay healthy and add value, but don't want to count on him to play important minutes. Theis is already signed and coming back.

These centers are so cheap, 3-4 vets each under $5MM/yr are worth it. Rotating them on short minutes keeps them fresh and active over the course of a long season.

Au revoir VP
 
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Is it just me or has VP at least looked like he has some promise? Tough to tell from such limited minutes, but he's big and reasonably mobile, with a decent looking perimeter shot. I wonder how he's fared in practice? Judging from playing time maybe not.
 

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Is it just me or has VP at least looked like he has some promise? Tough to tell from such limited minutes, but he's big and reasonably mobile, with a decent looking perimeter shot. I wonder how he's fared in practice? Judging from playing time maybe not.
He’s no Faverani, at least.
 

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Great piece in the Athletic about Theis and his use in the short roll game. "So it’s no surprise to see that among the 28 bigs who have scored or shot or assisted on at least 500 possessions this season, Theis ranks fifth in points per possession and fourth in assist to turnover ratio. That latter group consists of Al Horford, Nikola Vucevic and Nikola Jokic, the league’s best short roll playmakers. He’s even one spot ahead of Bam Adebayo in that category, who became an All-Star mostly because of his work in the short roll this season. Theis doesn’t have the great finishing capability these other current or former All-Stars do, but clearly he is playmaking at a near All-Star level."

 

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On the latest Enis Kanter podcast he said Theis looks in much better shape and stronger than he was even before the season was suspended. Look out Embiid!
 

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The Is gets some love from Jared Weiss for his long-suffering refereeing woes:


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The game got a bit sloppy for a few minutes as Marc Gasol and Theis returned to the game, but the Celtics were moving the ball well and started chipping away. Before they knew it, the lead was back up to 21. Then something truly remarkable happened.

Theis was screening for Smart when he began to roll and Anunoby hooked his arm. Theis threw up his arms to sell the call — and actually got it. The irony that Theis flopped to sell a call in front of Smart was just too rich. The moment seemed to unlock his confidence, maybe reminding him that he lives in a world of justice. He went from begging in pain to arguing with the judge, walking up to the official and stating that VanVleet jumped into him and he should be allowed to move with his hands up in the air.

His self-advocacy seemed to register, as he blocked Anunoby from behind on the very next play on what could have been called a foul but wasn’t. Theis immediately sprinted down the court behind Wanamaker, who led the way with the ball, forcing VanVleet to sink off Smart on the elbow and give up a wide-open 3. What had shrunk to a 12-point lead ballooned to 26 points in just a few minutes, as shown in this NBA Stats lead tracker, with Theis and the Celtics’ triple-guard attack leading the way.

 

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Theis had a good series all around against the Raptors, despite fouling out in game 7. I have a question about him: How is it that he never got drafted by an NBA team? Isn't that a little weird? Clearly a great find by Danny, but why did everyone miss on him?
 

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Theis had a good series all around against the Raptors, despite fouling out in game 7. I have a question about him: How is it that he never got drafted by an NBA team? Isn't that a little weird? Clearly a great find by Danny, but why did everyone miss on him?
I think he played several years in Europe and developed there, but wasn't really a prospect when he was draft age. Not certain though.
 

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What do the statistics say about Theis? Is he...good? I feel like I watch him stand around and play very little defense, get caught on bad switches, and struggle to grab anything but easy rebounds. Williams definitely looks a little bit lost from time to time as well, but my eyes tell me he has a more valuable presence when he’s in the game. I recognize this is oversimplifying things, but ... is Theis good?
 

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What do the statistics say about Theis? Is he...good? I feel like I watch him stand around and play very little defense, get caught on bad switches, and struggle to grab anything but easy rebounds. Williams definitely looks a little bit lost from time to time as well, but my eyes tell me he has a more valuable presence when he’s in the game. I recognize this is oversimplifying things, but ... is Theis good?
He‘s definitely good but he hasn’t been his best during this series. Bam has a lot to do with that. Still irritates me that Riley found 2 foundational players in the 13-14 range. Just an amazing job by their team.
 

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What do the statistics say about Theis? Is he...good? I feel like I watch him stand around and play very little defense, get caught on bad switches, and struggle to grab anything but easy rebounds. Williams definitely looks a little bit lost from time to time as well, but my eyes tell me he has a more valuable presence when he’s in the game. I recognize this is oversimplifying things, but ... is Theis good?
The more popular advanced stats rate his defense as ranging from elite (2nd overall in DRPM, trailing only Rudy Gobert) to excellent (15th overall in D-PIPM), to very good (39th overall in D-RAPTOR). I'd say "very good, maybe worthey of a couple of All-NBA team votes" is the approximate consensus of neutral NBA observers.

Edit- he did not get any All-NBA defensive team votes. I think he’s generally more highly regarded by the analytics crowd, though I think he still has a pretty positive reputation on D around the league.
 
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Theis had a monster second half yesterday. 15 points, 13 assists rebounds, 3 blocks, and was a key part of the demolishment of Miami's zone in the second half.
 
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Really great game. Early in the 3rd I was pissed when Theis picked up two quick fouls. I was starting to think Theis was a regular season player who was unplayable in the playoffs. But his overall contribution to the defense in the 3q won that game, I think. Just seemed to be quite the difference maker.
 

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His head wasn't right at the start of the game and he took a couple of cheapies. Plus they were willing to switch him and he wasn't able to punish them. Inserting Kanter was a coaching masterstroke because it completely blew the Heat's defensive rotations to hell for the better part of a quarter while the rest of the Cs were getting their head out of their ass. I was shocked Stevens didn't go back to Kanter in late 3rd / early 4th, but I guess at that point you can't change up what's working. I just don't get why they went with Granite, but either way, Theis was possessed and mostly poised in that second half, and I can't tell whether it was mental or just being relatively fresh from having a bigger 1H break.
 

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Wonder if fatigue is a factor. He's up to almost 29mpg in the playoffs, he was about 24 in the regular season this year coming off of about 15mpg last year. That's not an insane jump but for someone who needs hustle to be effective wonder if that first half rest helped a bit.
 

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Once he realized they were not even bothering to guard him at the FT line it just all sort of clicked for him. A few easy buckets and he was off to the races
 

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Theis had a monster second half yesterday. 15 points, 13 assists, 3 blocks, and was a key part of the demolishment of Miami's zone in the second half.
Just in case someone is reading this and didn't watch the game or check the box score, you mean 13 boards.