Daniel Theis 2 years, $10 million contract to stay in Boston

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Front court looks so much better than it did 48 hours ago, basically just need to hit on 1 or 2 out of their 4-5 big man options this year
 

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He’s an experienced big who can run and defend, plus switch and spread the floor a bit. It’s nice to have one of those for matchups that make playing the plodders undesirable.
 

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I like the depth but do wonder if they are big enough to bang with Philly. We'll see.
Once again, it doesn't matter. If the 76ers don't beat the Celtics in any games that count (playoffs or for seeding), something is really wrong. The 76ers have a chance to be the one or two seed next year. The Celtics are looking at one of the lower seeds and aren't likely to contend beyond making the playoffs.

At this point, their goal shouldn't be to "bang with Philly" but get their youngsters some run to develop and see if Poirier can be part of a rotation in the NBA.
 

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Kanter can't be traded right now I don't think. Which may or may not matter to what they're looking at down the road.
Right, and I don't think Theis could be either (absent a S&T which Theis would need to agree to). But yes they have a ton more tradeable assets overall for mid-season trades or for next offseason (obviously at that point Jaylen would be an RFA so he wouldn't likely be involved in any trades, but this gives them more flexibility regardless).
 

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Wow I was wrong. No clue what they do with 4 centers, but looking forward to the competition.
 

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If they do S&T for either Kyrie or Al does that make them hard-capped which means can't S&T Morris?
The hard-cap only applies to not going over $138M, so it would depend where his contract ended up. They’d very very likely be able to.

The hard cap is easy to understand once you get its motivation: teams in the luxury tax aren’t allowed to do S&Ts, so the intent is to stop sub-tax teams from skirting that rule by doing an S&T and then extending their own guys on big deals.
 

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Yeah, none of the recently signed guys can be traded until December 15.
Theis and Yabu, or more likely Kanter and Yabu combined lets you take back something like 12.8M, all 3 gets you to 19.


If they do S&T for either Kyrie or Al does that make them hard-capped which means can't S&T Morris?
The Celtics will be hard-capped already because they are receiving a S&T player in Kemba, but it likely won't matter because they're not going to be near the apron. Morris S&T is unlikely, and even so, they wouldn't be over the cap unless their was a S&T for AL or Kyrie neither of which seems likely. They expect to be under the cap, let Morris walk, take Kemba into cap space, and then use the tiny bit remaining to give Edwards a 3-4 year deal instead of having to give him only 2, the Kanter signing at the RE makes it pretty clear that they expect to be a cap space team.
 

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Theis deserves to make a few bucks. He plays his role, doesn't complain, provides instant energy, plays with max effort, does a decent job in floor coverage on the p/r, and in his second NBA season, showed he could hit the three, at 38.8% in a small sample off one three attempted per game.

Celtics bigs are a League of Nations.
 

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Theis deserves to make a few bucks. He plays his role, doesn't complain, provides instant energy, plays with max effort, does a decent job in floor coverage on the p/r, and in his second NBA season, showed he could hit the three, at 38.8% in a small sample off one three attempted per game.

Celtics bigs are a League of Nations.
bingo. nailed it
 

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Feels wild for him to make the same money as Kanter when Kanter seems like a far superior player but I guess that just speaks more to the bargain the Celtics got on him than how much Theis got.
 

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Feels wild for him to make the same money as Kanter when Kanter seems like a far superior player but I guess that just speaks more to the bargain the Celtics got on him than how much Theis got.
It’s more that the Celtics were filling up their cap space first to keep Theis’ smaller cap hold on the books, and then giving him a ballast contract once they hit the cap. It’s an order of operations thing.
 

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I’m a little surprised because you now have a bunch of rotational bigs who will get some minutes but by and large will play less, individually, than they did last year. But glad to have the depth.
 

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Feels wild for him to make the same money as Kanter when Kanter seems like a far superior player but I guess that just speaks more to the bargain the Celtics got on him than how much Theis got.
Theis German buddy Maxi Kleber just got 4yrs for $35MM. They are very similar players except Danny just paid 2yrs for $10MM for a guy that knows Brads' system/rotations
 

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It’s more that the Celtics were filling up their cap space first to keep Theis’ smaller cap hold on the books, and then giving him a ballast contract once they hit the cap. It’s an order of operations thing.
the NBA salary cap is way too complicated because this might as well be written in another language to me.
 

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the NBA salary cap is way too complicated because this might as well be written in another language to me.
Michele Roberts said the same thing. She wanted to throw the whole thing out and start over.

I'm guessing that Proskauer Rose drafted the first version when David Stern was still working there and the owners felt that its convoluted nature gave them a negotiating advantage. Since then a cottage industry has grown up around interpreting its twists and turns. Today, Proskauer Rose does work for all of the major professional sports leagues, not just the NBA. The status quo is good business for them.
 

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Michele Roberts said the same thing. She wanted to throw the whole thing out and start over.

I'm guessing that Proskauer Rose drafted the first version when David Stern was still working there and the owners felt that its convoluted nature gave them a negotiating advantage. Since then a cottage industry has grown up around interpreting its twists and turns. Today, Proskauer Rose does work for all of the major professional sports leagues, not just the NBA. The status quo is good business for them.
I’d be pretty sad if it were gone. I like legalese, and it adds a lot of free entertainment. It’s like having to learn all the new mechanics of a game like Europa Universalis 4 every time a new patch is released.

Simple version @mikeford : basically because Theis was already on the Celtics, they had the right to go over the salary cap to re-sign him. So they filled up their cap with all other contracts, and then after those were in place and they were at the cap, they used their right to sign Theis and went over.

If they had signed Theis first, he would have filled up cap space, and then they wouldn’t have had it for other guys who weren’t on the team already (meaning they couldn’t go over the cap to sign those guys).

If this is at all interesting, we can go into cap holds next lol. The CBA is easiest for me to understand when I know the stories or motivations behind each of the weird rules.