Dalbec sent down to AAA

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I really think it’s time to let him go. Some other team may give him a shot sgain but his time here should be over.
 

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Dalbec is getting a raw deal imho. Not enough of a chance to show he can play. But maybe I’m biased based on spring training success
 

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I wonder if he has any trade value? After all they traded Michael Chavis for Austin Davis. Surely Dalbec can top that?
I don't think they're trading him in the near future. Dalbec has a role given the current construction of the 40-man. He's corner infield depth in case Devers or Casas or Turner gets hurt. Unfortunately, what they've been calling him up to be is middle infield depth. Pablo Reyes is much better suited to that (and can easily be DFA when Arroyo is healthy).

Chavis was on his final year of options (Dalbec has another year after this) and he was redundant in almost every way. Arroyo and Dalbec both provided what Chavis did (better and younger respectively). Trading him was dealing from a position of excess for a position of need. Not sure that's where they're at with Dalbec just yet.
 

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I wonder if he has any trade value? After all they traded Michael Chavis for Austin Davis. Surely Dalbec can top that?
I feel like there should be some trade value there. He is the perfect "change of scenery, small market" guy. Grew up on West Coast, has controllable years, legit power, some positional versatility.
 

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Obvious concern with Dalbec is after getting his K rate down in AAA, it's skyrocketed again. 38 K's in 99 PAs isn't going to entice many, but maybe they'll fleece someone.
 

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I don’t see the incentive for the Sox to move him now. He’s insurance. In a few months, things could change and they may need the 40-man spot, but I suspect he’s destined to spend most of this season in Worcester.
 

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In theory, Dalbec should fit somewhere as a RH platoon bat with positional versatility. In practice, however, I suspect good teams have better options, and bad teams would prefer to give the reps to someone with upside. Even if he’s worth the 40-man spot (and I’m not sure about that), we’re not getting more than organizational filler for him.
 

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Dalbec is getting a raw deal imho. Not enough of a chance to show he can play. But maybe I’m biased based on spring training success
Yeah, the last two season wasn't nearly enough time.

He turns 28 in a bit more than a month. He's had his chance. Who are we supposed to not play so that he gets another one?
 

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Alas, the anticipation that I earlier experienced with Lars Anderson and then teleported onto Dalbec never materialized, in either case. I remember going to Spring training in 2007 with my 10-yo son and pointing to Lars and saying, "There's the next Red Sox Hall of Famer". Alas, similar deflation with Dalbec, although, while rooting for him with an immensely visceral anticipation, I never gushed such an exclamation about him.
 
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Ale Xander

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You can’t be serious.
He’s hitting .180
Needs at bats every day including lefties that he can get at AAA and improve his defense

Bobby is more versatile, just as likely to hit home runs and more likely to hit singles doubles and triples and is more experienced.
You can always re-examine in a month or two.
 

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He’s hitting .180
Needs at bats every day including lefties that he can get at AAA and improve his defense

Bobby is more versatile, just as likely to hit home runs and more likely to hit singles doubles and triples and is more experienced.
You can always re-examine in a month or two.
Casas has actually been better against lefties (182/357/409) than righties (180/305/359)
 

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They don’t trust Bobby to play any where in the infield. Atlanta started a lefty the other day..AND..Raffy sat. If he is not getting a look in that scenario then Alex wants no part of him.
 

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He’s hitting .180
Needs at bats every day including lefties that he can get at AAA and improve his defense

Bobby is more versatile, just as likely to hit home runs and more likely to hit singles doubles and triples and is more experienced.
You can always re-examine in a month or two.
Dalbec has proven over three years that aside from a very good six weeks, he can’t consistently hit major league pitching. He’s no longer a prospect, he’s a suspect. He’s AAAA hitter.

His versatility is kinda useless on the Sox. He can play first or third. They already have a very good player at third. He’s been used at short but he’s not a shortstop. He can’t play the outfield either.

Casas is the type of player that should be given a lot of at bats on this team. They’ve had a terrific start to the season, have played very well but they aren’t a true contender. Casas has more upside than Dalbec and should be given the opportunity to win the first base job, just like Dalbec was given that opportunity two years ago.

Dalbec failed. It happens. Major League Baseball is hard. The Sox need to move on from him and not waste any more time or effort on him. And TBH if Dalbec wants to carve out a Major League career career, he needs to get moved to a team like the As or the White Sox or a shit team where he can see if he can get back on track in relative obscurity without any pressure.

It’s just not happening here. Bloom needs to cut bait on him now for the team and the player’s sake.
 

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What's the hurry in dealing him? If Casas or, godforbid, Devers gets hurt, I'd much rather have Dalbec replace him than anyone else on the 40.
 

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What's the hurry in dealing him? If Casas or, godforbid, Devers gets hurt, I'd much rather have Dalbec replace him than anyone else on the 40.
I don't think there's a hurry. Even if Gammons' report is true and they are shopping him around, I don't think that means they're going to move him fast. If they don't see a return offer for him that they like, there's no harm in holding on to him. It could be that Bloom is just chumming the water to see what sorts of deals might be out there in a month or two when the deadline is looming closer.

I agree with you that he's needed depth to protect against an injury to Casas or Devers or Turner for that matter. They don't exactly have a lot of other ready depth for the corner infield spots right now. Maybe come June and July they'll have Arroyo back (who can play 3B and 1B if needed), and they'll have a need that can be addressed by trading Dalbec. I just don't see them doing it just to be rid of him.
 

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He’s hitting .180
Needs at bats every day including lefties that he can get at AAA and improve his defense

Bobby is more versatile, just as likely to hit home runs and more likely to hit singles doubles and triples and is more experienced.
You can always re-examine in a month or two.
You have to look at trends, not just overall averages to determine whether to send a guy down. You certainly don't send Casas down now, when he's just gotten hot.
 

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There is no reason to believe Dalbec would fair as well as Casas as a hitter, right now.

Casas has a wRC+of 90, with bad luck on balls in play. He had a pretty brutal stretch a few weeks into the season, but beyond that, he's managed to limit Ks to an acceptable (albeit high) level, while walking 17% of the time. If you believe in his power (Which I don't see why you wouldn't), he should be a solidly above average 1B this year with significant room to grow from there.

Dalbec on the other hand has a 115 WRC+ in tripled A, fueled by a .385 BABIP, while striking out 40% of the time. I like Dabec, I root for him to be successful, but if he were to play a full season, he'd probably strike out 300 times in a season. The power is real, but unless he can get that K rate under control he's completely not playable at the major league level. He's almost 5 years older than Casas, to boot.
 

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It is my feeling that Alex wants no part of Bobby. A few times this year when the Sox have been on a good stretch Alex has been quoted something to the effect of “it’s a direct result of putting the ball in play” I think he has seen enough of Dalbec’s swing and miss routine.
if Casas or Devers gets injured, my guess is you get Bobby up to the bigs but he plays for about two days before Chaim finds a right handed hitting scrap heap middle infielder. Like he just did with the minor leaguer from Oakland.