D(anny)-Day : Predict the outcome of today's trade deadline

What move(s) does Danny make today?

  • Trades for a "white whale" (e.g., Bradley Beal, Domantas Sabonis, etc.)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Trades for a "big fish" (e.g., John Collins, Malcolm Brogdon, etc.)

    Votes: 4 3.9%
  • Trades for a "keeper" (e.g., Aaron Gordon, Harrison Barnes, Lonzo Ball, etc.)

    Votes: 27 26.2%
  • Trades for a rental that you have to throw back (e.g., Norman Powell, Victor Oladipo, etc.)

    Votes: 11 10.7%
  • Trades for minor bench piece(s)

    Votes: 30 29.1%
  • Trades existing players for future picks

    Votes: 6 5.8%
  • Nothing! The fish got away...

    Votes: 40 38.8%

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BigSoxFan

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Lots of possible potential outcomes for today. What does Danny accomplish today, if anything? You can select multiple responses.
 

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A player like Gordon will ensure that they get into the playoffs as a 4-8 seed and a respectable first round exit against a better team. It will mask what a disaster portions of this season have been, and give Ainge and Stevens a chance to regroup in the offseason. But since they make a move nobody will be able to dump on them for doing nothing or something small.
 

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A player like Gordon will ensure that they get into the playoffs as a 4-8 seed and a respectable first round exit against a better team. It will mask what a disaster portions of this season have been, and give Ainge and Stevens a chance to regroup in the offseason. But since they make a move nobody will be able to dump on them for doing nothing or something small.
Fair but will they have enough capital to do much more in the offseason?
 

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another poll?

Danny has fewer picks than past seasons, and if he weren't able to swing for something in the past, I don't expect him to be able to swing big now...expecting a small piece and maybe trade away some of the current roster's fodder
 

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I didn't vote this way, but I want Lonzo.
Me as well. I love the idea of a big, strong point guard who can defend and pass and, unlike Smart, has good shot selection.
 

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Fair but will they have enough capital to do much more in the offseason?
I think that will depend on what the internal assessment of the team is, which we don't know at this point, but this would involve moving players we think of as untouchable.

With the Gordon opportunity seemingly fading, I can then see Ainge standing pat. I don't know if there's another player the Celtics can get who they value as much as him in this scenario where Gordon would be part of a rejiggering.
 

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I think the C's organization must be mindful of the fact they are on the verge of losing fanbase if they do nothing. I expect a deal today, even if it is an overpay. I am anticipating losing some picks, and personally I am OK with that (within reason, of course).
 

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I think the C's organization must be mindful of the fact they are on the verge of losing fanbase if they do nothing. I expect a deal today, even if it is an overpay. I am anticipating losing some picks, and personally I am OK with that (within reason, of course).
I'm OK with losing picks but the overpay that Orlando is looking for includes Marcus Smart. All the reports indicate that Danny wants to do the Aaron Gordon deal with Nesmith + a 1st, but the Magic want Smart too by possibly expanding it to include Fournier. Would folks here make that trade?
 

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Gary Harris was an asset, but today is a salary dump. that feels like an Orlando leak to bump the price up from someone.
 

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The Athletic this morning proposed:

"Kemba Walker, Romeo Langford and a protected 2021 first-round pick to Orlando for Aaron Gordon and Evan Fournier"

I'd do that trade in a heartbeat, because we are getting out of Kemba's deal without having to pay someone to take him.
 

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I'm OK with losing picks but the overpay that Orlando is looking for includes Marcus Smart. All the reports indicate that Danny wants to do the Aaron Gordon deal with Nesmith + a 1st, but the Magic want Smart too by possibly expanding it to include Fournier. Would folks here make that trade?
No. Smart is valuable to the Celtics and other teams would want him. I also think an addition like Gordon can make Marcus a better player again by allowing him to not chuck up so many bad shots.
 

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The Athletic this morning proposed:

"Kemba Walker, Romeo Langford and a protected 2021 first-round pick to Orlando for Aaron Gordon and Evan Fournier"

I'd do that trade in a heartbeat, because we are getting out of Kemba's deal without having to pay someone to take him.
I'd drive Kemba to the airport.
 

Cesar Crespo

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The Athletic this morning proposed:

"Kemba Walker, Romeo Langford and a protected 2021 first-round pick to Orlando for Aaron Gordon and Evan Fournier"

I'd do that trade in a heartbeat, because we are getting out of Kemba's deal without having to pay someone to take him.
Everyone would. We'd be out of all the contract commitments a year earlier too if Kemba doesn't opt out.
 

Cesar Crespo

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No. Smart is valuable to the Celtics and other teams would want him. I also think an addition like Gordon can make Marcus a better player again by allowing him to not chuck up so many bad shots.
If Gordon Hayward didn't prevent it, Aaron Gordon isn't going to. Marcus is gonna Marcus.
 

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I'm a little torn on Marcus. I'm fine with trading this year's version, but I also assume that he'll eventually get in shape and get back to being the Smart that is super valuable at some point. I think I'd want more than Gordon and Fournier for him.
 

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I'm a little torn on Marcus. I'm fine with trading this year's version, but I also assume that he'll eventually get in shape and get back to being the Smart that is super valuable at some point. I think I'd want more than Gordon and Fournier for him.
The older he gets, the less likely he is to shed the weight and the more likely it is to impact his game negatively. He's always been out of shape, it just never bothered him before.

I'd be very worried how he ages, especially on D.
 

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I think the C's organization must be mindful of the fact they are on the verge of losing fanbase if they do nothing. I expect a deal today, even if it is an overpay. I am anticipating losing some picks, and personally I am OK with that (within reason, of course).
I think there is something to this. That said, a move for the sake of a move isn't the answer.

I probably would move heaven and earth to find a package for Gordon and Fournier. Smart, multiple firsts, whatever. Roll Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Gordon, Fournier, and whatever 5 we can manage out there and take your best shot. I dont think we are getting a better shot with this nucleus.
 

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The older he gets, the less likely he is to shed the weight and the more likely it is to impact his game negatively. He's always been out of shape, it just never bothered him before.

I'd be very worried how he ages, especially on D.
If multiple teams still see Smart as a significantly positive asset, which we're hearing out of Atlanta and Orlando, I would absolutely sell high on him. It's almost April and he's still not in shape. I'm extremely concerned about his performance the remainder of this contract, and what he'll bring on his next.
 

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I'd love to see track record of teams that were thought to have "overpaid" in major roles. Did that indeed end up significantly hurting those teams, or were they able to survive and thrive?

It may be too early to gauge the Lakers' deal for Anthony Davis, but you could probably make the case that they overpaid at least a little for him. With one NBA title to their credit since then, and perhaps more coming, the Lakers might be willing to live with that.
 

Cesar Crespo

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I'd love to see track record of teams that were thought to have "overpaid" in major roles. Did that indeed end up significantly hurting those teams, or were they able to survive and thrive?

It may be too early to gauge the Lakers' deal for Anthony Davis, but you could probably make the case that they overpaid at least a little for him. With one NBA title to their credit since then, and perhaps more coming, the Lakers might be willing to live with that.
You can't really overpay for a top 5-10 player in the league.
 

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I have come around to hoping Danny blows it up and reshuffles. I would be fine with literally anyone being traded other than TimeLord, which I know is irrational, but he's just so damn entertaining to watch.

Something just isn't right about the current roster, the sum seems much less than the parts, and it's hard to see how it improves as currently constructed. I think there needs to be at least some addition by subtraction.

All of that said, I voted that Danny does nothing today. It seems like they see something I don't.
 

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Dammit I really wanted Vucevic but didn’t think it was possible that he’d be moved now. Celtics can’t really compete with that offer anyways since Bulls 1sts are more valuable.
 

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On paper, this is a very good acquisition in terms of the talent the C's are bringing in. Fournier won't wow anyone with his defense but this has the potential to really help the offense.
 

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Boston has to be sending out some salary as well right? I think Fournier makes $17 m a year and I don’t think anyone thinks this years team is worth going into the tax...
 

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On paper, this is a very good acquisition in terms of the talent the C's are bringing in. Fournier won't wow anyone with his defense but this has the potential to really help the offense.
Yeah, if the Celtics where were we thought they could be, this would be a great move. I still don’t hate it, just closes off a lot of options.