Curb Your Enthusiasm: US Youth National Teams, Prospect Hype, and Youth Development Thread [The DA is DEAD updates]

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Obed Vargas, who has started a lot for Seattle this season in the midfield will join the team after next Saturday's match.

Curious to see how good he can be.
 

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Surprised there’s VAR. Hopefully it does something with this weird call.

Penalty it is! Not a foul on you to have your damn clock cleaned out.
 

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It’s 6-0 before the halftime whistle. Not sure how much we can gain from this match. Just make the final. The way the groups are set up the US should be able to avoid Mexico till then as either team would need to finish third in their group in order to end up on the same side of the bracket.
 

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Finished 10-0.

It’s 6-0 before the halftime whistle. Not sure how much we can gain from this match. Just make the final. The way the groups are set up the US should be able to avoid Mexico till then as either team would need to finish third in their group in order to end up on the same side of the bracket.
I'd also like to avoid playing Honduras in Honduras. I don't know if this iteration of Honduras U20 is any good or not, but it barely matters. Our YNTs tend to get out-CONCACAFed in these sorts of tournaments when we go up against the hosts.
 

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Finished 10-0.



I'd also like to avoid playing Honduras in Honduras. I don't know if this iteration of Honduras U20 is any good or not, but it barely matters. Our YNTs tend to get out-CONCACAFed in these sorts of tournaments when we go up against the hosts.
It‘s likely that the US faces both Costa Rica and Honduras en route to the final. Both 1st and 2nd from their group are on our side of the bracket.
 

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I’m seeing it as an 8:30 kickoff on TUDN.

Apparently Canada rested some starters, but with such small rosters there was only so much rotation they could do. Not a good look, especially with Cuba’s goalie getting a red in the 70th minute and Cuba not being able to sub so they put their diminutive striker in goal for the last 20+ minutes.
 

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Watched most of the first half. The US don’t look to have enough chemistry to break down a Canada team with talent that’s dropping 6, 7, sometimes 8 into the box to defend. Might take something special to crack things open.
 

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This game was pretty dumb from the US, but a tie in a game they should have won still puts the team in a position to win the group if they just beat Cuba.
 

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That was a strange game, for a team with 12 goals in 2 games their finishing has been mediocre? They needed a Pepi like player, Pax as the false 9 wasn't ideal. Cade didn't have a good game either despite the goal. But even still they played so positive and got undone by two lapses. Beat Cuba and it doesn't really matter.
 

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I can’t really fault the players for lacking cohesion and well drilled moves given the pandemic and the USSF shortcomings. I really do want to see some progression as the completion moves on and the matches get tighter. Fewer crosses to no one, clear back line leadership, more tempo setting from the mids. This is a talented squad - they need to become a unit.
 

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That was a strange game, for a team with 12 goals in 2 games their finishing has been mediocre? They needed a Pepi like player, Pax as the false 9 wasn't ideal. Cade didn't have a good game either despite the goal. But even still they played so positive and got undone by two lapses. Beat Cuba and it doesn't really matter.
The only Pepi-like striker who's any good in this age group unfortunately is Pepi, and his blowing past this team is great for the US program overall but is tough for this specific U20 team.

I think Cade + Cuevas on the left side was kinda rough, both good players but on the left both want to do nothing but cut inside and that made that part of the attack extremely predictable.
 

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Taking everything into account I still think the US wins that game 8 out of 10 times. That's with the massive squad rotation, the weather and field conditions, the subs, all of it. Never mind if the US put their A squad out there and set up to actually play specifically against Canada. Canada got lucky in this one. I am a little annoyed that Varas went with so much rotation regardless of opponent (I get it, but the mix of players was off) and didn't seem to game plan around how Canada was likely to play, and it feels like he's going with a 4-3-3 regardless of who he has on the field. The US doesn't have a 9, so why play any system with a 9? Also, this whole tournament is feeling like Concacaf is putting it on as cheaply as possible. Games every other day, small squads, just using one field. I do enjoy watch Diego Luna play minus the dive. Looks like the American Shaqiri out there.

The only Pepi-like striker who's any good in this age group unfortunately is Pepi, and his blowing past this team is great for the US program overall but is tough for this specific U20 team.

I think Cade + Cuevas on the left side was kinda rough, both good players but on the left both want to do nothing but cut inside and that made that part of the attack extremely predictable.
Definitely had the Dest/Konrad against El Salvador feel to it. This was not a Cade Cowell game at all, and Cuevas is much better on the right.
 

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I do enjoy watch Diego Luna play minus the dive. Looks like the American Shaqiri out there.
One of my favorite types of player to watch is the high-skills creative guy who also kinda looks like a meatball. Shaqiri, Dimitri Payet, that kinda guy. Luna's definitely in that mold.
 

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The only Pepi-like striker who's any good in this age group unfortunately is Pepi, and his blowing past this team is great for the US program overall but is tough for this specific U20 team.
Yep no arguments there. He's graduated and there's no backup. Not a bad problem for the senior squad but puts pressure on the U20s to do more with their chances from alternative sources.
 

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R16 match vs Nicaragua, tonight 8:30pm ET. On FS2, somehow. I would expect a slightly rotated squad, to keep the full A-team fresh (whom you'll see vs Costa Rica in the QFs and Honduras in the semis).

Warm up with USWNT vs Colombia at 7:30pm. Can watch the first half of that, and then flip between them as-desired.
 

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R16 match vs Nicaragua, tonight 8:30pm ET. On FS2, somehow. I would expect a slightly rotated squad, to keep the full A-team fresh (whom you'll see vs Costa Rica in the QFs and Honduras in the semis).

Warm up with USWNT vs Colombia at 7:30pm. Can watch the first half of that, and then flip between them as-desired.
I’m curious as to who the full A team is. I imagine the starting D and GK from the Cuba game. I’d prefer Pukstas, Diego Luna and Alvarado in the midfield but see Edelman as the likely starting 6. Up top, Aaronson, Clark, and Cowell. But how does Varas see it?

The biggest concern for me is central defense.
 

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R16 match vs Nicaragua, tonight 8:30pm ET. On FS2, somehow. I would expect a slightly rotated squad, to keep the full A-team fresh (whom you'll see vs Costa Rica in the QFs and Honduras in the semis).
5-0 win for US.
 

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Yeah, Diego Luna is making himself a lot of fans this tournament. Guy looks like a meatball and is somehow slicing-and-dicing out there.

Costa Rica (Tuesday, 7:00pm ET) should have a little more punch going forward, but still be a fairly easy win (thus qualifying us for the U20 WC).

The match with Honduras for a spot in the 2024 Olympics, though (Friday 7/1), will be MUCH tougher. Youth-watchers I've been reading have said they look like the best team in the tournament, and of course they're playing at home. Our CBs (the weak point on this roster) already showed themselves mistake-prone vs Canada, that will be a very nervous match for some of us.
 

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Yeah, Diego Luna is making himself a lot of fans this tournament. Guy looks like a meatball and is somehow slicing-and-dicing out there.

Costa Rica (Tuesday, 7:00pm ET) should have a little more punch going forward, but still be a fairly easy win (thus qualifying us for the U20 WC).

The match with Honduras for a spot in the 2024 Olympics, though (Friday 7/1), will be MUCH tougher. Youth-watchers I've been reading have said they look like the best team in the tournament, and of course they're playing at home. Our CBs (the weak point on this roster) already showed themselves mistake-prone vs Canada, that will be a very nervous match for some of us.
The legend of Diego Luna aka Moon Boy grows. At one point he was taking corner kicks left footed. He’s right footed.
 

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Even if Luna doesn’t rise high and tops out at the MLS level, a highly saucy attacker who is 5’8”, 188 lbs and shockingly agile for his size is the most can’t-miss cult hero prospect I’ve ever seen.
 

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What do we think about Paxten Aaronson? I feel like he looks great getting to spots and distributing the ball.
I like what I see. He’s a super technical player. I wish he didn‘t play the false 9 and got the ball facing goal more, but he’s still one of the most dangerous players on the team. These games are so hard to judge though because of the talent gap with the competition, even Canada. His usage indicates that the coaching staff likes him a lot too. The real games start onTuesday and we should have a better idea then.
 

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I like what I see. He’s a super technical player. I wish he didn‘t play the false 9 and got the ball facing goal more, but he’s still one of the most dangerous players on the team. These games are so hard to judge though because of the talent gap with the competition, even Canada. His usage indicates that the coaching staff likes him a lot too. The real games start onTuesday and we should have a better idea then.
It's a shame that seemingly the only solid center forward in the entire U20 pool right now is Ricardo Pepi, who has basically graduated from the U20 level.