C's pick Aaron Nesmith #14 overall

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Yeah, I haven't give up on this season, though things are looking bleak, but Nesmith's emergence gives me hope for 2021-22 and beyond.
Nesmith, Pritchard and TimeLord are some bright spots this season. Just play them Brad!
There are some very faint glimmers of hope next season with a healthier Romeo (+Yam & a fitter Grant :eek:).

Starting this Summer I'd like Danny to fill out the rest of the roster with vets. Usually, I'm loath to dealing draft picks but I wouldn't mind if he starts packaging 1sts to upgrade 1-2 rotational/starting spots to build around the Jays.
 
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I wonder whether, in the entire history of the world, anyone has disliked anything as much as you appear to dislike Romeo Langford as a basketball player.
I can unequivocally say this is incorrect.

Just keeping things to me and this year’s Celtics team rather than all people in the history of the world.... I dislike Grant as a player more than Romeo :).

I’ve consistently agreed with the many caveats for why Romeo’s season doesn’t sink his chances to be a useful player. But it’s also OK to be realistic and admit that offensively he has been putrid this season.
 

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Does any dislike compare to the free agent or trade acquisition that misses their first two shots? I mean the first round pick that is not 20-10-5 by 2nd year, is highly disliked, but I still think the free agent that is not a s good as players at the same position making twice as much money. Man that guy gets it.
 

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I hated Marcus Banks so much. He still makes me mad when I think about all his pointless drives to nowhere.

Summer League is back this August. Nesmith and Romeo could really use the burn.
 

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Don't ask me, ask the National Media Reporter!

(In all seriousness, it looks a bit better on D, and miles better on offense. It's hard for me to see it as a potential career-breaker in any way.)
This is a great assessment imo. Footwork is definitely better. Hard to assess how much of it is technique improvements and how much is simply Nesmith keeping the gas pedal to the floor for every second that he's out there. But no question, his awkwardness is less and some of that is better footwork.

Clearly he has improved offensively, and that is not just balls going through hoops finally. The game has slowed down. He is showing a good feel for things there. Confidence follows. It's all good stuff on that end.
 

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It is a technique complement, meaning he can slide, keep in front people longer. It is like "hit the fastball" or "throwing strikes". Something simple you want everyone to do, but everyone in fact cannot do it.


When most of us played highschool, sliding was the only way, but now players can turn and run to a spot. TL for example is not great at sliding his feet, but he turns and meets people at the rim,and we know how that turns out for the shooter. Nesmith at times slides through screens, meaning less switching. Early in the year he was not sliding with people he closed and was running into screens. Effort was always there, but now he is doing a better job.
 

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Does this mean his much-derided footwork is improving?
Watch him tonight.

To my untrained eye, he is sliding his feet a bit better but he doesn't slide much. As RC notes, he's either running after or to a player. If Romeo plays, compare his footwork when guarding guys to AN.

The best thing AN is doing is spending a lot of energy rotating to an open guy and closing hard. It's interesting that he keeps getting to 5 fouls but never fouls out.

And of course, as long as he shoots well and plays hard on defense, Brad will suffer a few disjointed rotations.
 

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Watch him tonight.

To my untrained eye, he is sliding his feet a bit better but he doesn't slide much. As RC notes, he's either running after or to a player. If Romeo plays, compare his footwork when guarding guys to AN.

The best thing AN is doing is spending a lot of energy rotating to an open guy and closing hard. It's interesting that he keeps getting to 5 fouls but never fouls out.

And of course, as long as he shoots well and plays hard on defense, Brad will suffer a few disjointed rotations.
He could really benefit from working smarter, not harder. He's wasting a lot of energy out there but I guess it doesn't matter much when you are 21.
 

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When most of us played highschool, sliding was the only way, but now players can turn and run to a spot. TL for example is not great at sliding his feet, but he turns and meets people at the rim,and we know how that turns out for the shooter. Nesmith at times slides through screens, meaning less switching. Early in the year he was not sliding with people he closed and was running into screens. Effort was always there, but now he is doing a better job.
Do you think this change in technique is just guys getting sloppier or is it related to the fact that stopping for a pullup is no longer in most offensive players' toolbox or some other change in offense?
 

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Do you think this change in technique is just guys getting sloppier or is it related to the fact that stopping for a pullup is no longer in most offensive players' toolbox or some other change in offense?
I'm sure there a lot of factors involved. To my eye, players still sometimes slide but with the current rules, you have to be very careful of contract. Marcus does it pretty well with anticipation and quickness, but it's not easy to do. Even good sliding defense will often result in some minor bump/handcheck as you go.

If you can't completely beat your man to the spot by sliding (pretty tough given how good offensive players are now), better to give some ground and athletically run back a few steps to cut someone off.
 

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Do you think this change in technique is just guys getting sloppier or is it related to the fact that stopping for a pullup is no longer in most offensive players' toolbox or some other change in offense?
You got it. If you make the guy pullup, most of the time that is your job. Timelord, if you pullup after going by him there is pretty good chance he bothers it, so it makes sense he practices getting to the best angle to block a shot, it is more than just jumping high.

Also the skill level off the bounce is through the roof today, to reuse my parallel, just like hitting the fastball is not as easy as it once was. Today teams want you to be constantly scrambling pass dribble, pass dribble, pass dribble. Insanely hard to guard. A guy that can closeout, and control his check gets the D out of scramble mode. Incredible valuable. Thus Three and D being a thing.
 

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also, I hated Jameer Nelson on the Cs more than I have ever hated another player. It was maybe 3-4 games but it was white hot. Fuck that guy.
 

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With Brown out for the rest of the year, the Celtics should start Nesmith. Let Fournier, who is a damned good offensive player, be 6th man/bench scorer.
 

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I'd keep Fournier in the starting lineup. I don't want him leaving this summer to find a starting job.
 

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I agree completely. Maybe starting him would not only help AN develop but would also get the other guys to come out with a little more urgency and energy.
The problem with starting Nesmith is that he’s now going to be facing a significant matchup disadvantage against starting opposing wings. The kid is finally getting settled and confident against primarily second units and as a complementary piece in the short minutes he is out there against starters. I wouldn’t want to mess with that by throwing him into that fire just yet. He is finally in a good place and showing confidence in his game......let him simmer a little bit longer, he’s not done yet.
 

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The problem with starting Nesmith is that he’s now going to be facing a significant matchup disadvantage against starting opposing wings. The kid is finally getting settled and confident against primarily second units and as a complementary piece in the short minutes he is out there against starters. I wouldn’t want to mess with that by throwing him into that fire just yet. He is finally in a good place and showing confidence in his game......let him simmer a little bit longer, he’s not done yet.
i could see him being better with the starters, since his offense is more complementary.