CP3 traded to Phoenix

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I think they officially have 108 first round picks over the next six years.
 

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On its face, that's a great trade for OKC. Presti took on CP3's contract, turned it into an exciting season for his fans and now has a bunch of options via the picks & bodies. He is kind of good at his job.
 

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Though they will need a PG of the future it would seem to reduce chances they take one at 10, imo.
 

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Interesting that a team can accumulate a bazillion assets while also not tanking to disgusting levels. Trust the process indeed! Sign me up for OKC's future.
 

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Interesting that a team can accumulate a bazillion assets while also not tanking to disgusting levels. Trust the process indeed! Sign me up for OKC's future.
It helps when you start with the 2nd best team in the league and have a ton of assets to flip. Most teams going into the tank don't have any star players
 

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Pick will convey this year if Paul is healthy. I think they make the playoffs.
Based on the reports I have seen so far, its a 2021-2022 pick at the earliest.

CP3, Devin Booker, Mikal Bridges, Cameron Johnson, DeAndre Ayton

Looks like a 9 seed to me
The West is stacked. You figure Golden State takes the spot OKC is definitely vacating. But the Suns should be competitive if Paul is healthy. They were the 9th best team in the West with Rubio, whose minutes Paul will now take. You would expected continued improvement from Ayton, Bridges and Booker.
If Houston does actually blow it up, the Suns are look like the favorite for the 8th seed. Even if they don't, Portland should be looking over their shoulder.

Do we think the Suns operate as a over the cap team and use the mid-level, or renounce Baynes and Saric and use their cap space (probably 12ish)?
 

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Based on the reports I have seen so far, its a 2021-2022 pick at the earliest.



The West is stacked. You figure Golden State takes the spot OKC is definitely vacating. But the Suns should be competitive if Paul is healthy. They were the 9th best team in the West with Rubio, whose minutes Paul will now take. You would expected continued improvement from Ayton, Bridges and Booker.
If Houston does actually blow it up, the Suns are look like the favorite for the 8th seed. Even if they don't, Portland should be looking over their shoulder.

Do we think the Suns operate as a over the cap team and use the mid-level, or renounce Baynes and Saric and use their cap space (probably 12ish)?
If I were the Suns, I'd renounce Baynes and Saric and use the cap space to sign vets who want to come play with CP3.
 

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Presti has done an amazing job over the last few seasons. Kudos to him
He also took a cooked Carmelo and spun him into Schroeder, who's now fetched OKC a late first and Danny Green (whom they can spin off into another asset). He's mastered taking contracts that the league perceives as negative value and turning them into positive ones.
 

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They aren't going under, according to reports it is going through now, so they can't get under.
Must be missing something. They are taking on 43 and sending out 35.

Pre-trade they had 94ish in salary on the books for next year and could get to between 16-20 in space if they renounced cap holds and declined options. So post-Paul trade, I think they could still get to 8-12 in space, if they so desired.

If that is correct, then the calculus depends on which you think has more value being one of the few teams in FA you can offer more then the mid-level (but not a whole lot more) vs. retaining Saric and signing someone with the MLE.
 

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Must be missing something. They are taking on 43 and sending out 35.

Pre-trade they had 94ish in salary on the books for next year and could get to between 16-20 in space if they renounced cap holds and declined options. So post-Paul trade, I think they could still get to 8-12 in space, if they so desired.

If that is correct, then the calculus depends on which you think has more value being one of the few teams in FA you can offer more then the mid-level (but not a whole lot more) vs. retaining Saric and signing someone with the MLE.
Pre-trade they were at 8.4M in space without holds, they could get to 22 if they dumped everything including their 1st so now they are right near the line without hold and could get to about 14M if they dumped everything, but that doesn't make much sense.

They're going to stay above the cap.
 

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Must be missing something. They are taking on 43 and sending out 35.

Pre-trade they had 94ish in salary on the books for next year and could get to between 16-20 in space if they renounced cap holds and declined options. So post-Paul trade, I think they could still get to 8-12 in space, if they so desired.

If that is correct, then the calculus depends on which you think has more value being one of the few teams in FA you can offer more then the mid-level (but not a whole lot more) vs. retaining Saric and signing someone with the MLE.
I think the calculus is 8-12 million dollar player
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Baynes, Saric, MLE
 

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I think the calculus is 8-12 million dollar player
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Baynes, Saric, MLE
Also remember that they get the full MLE, not the tax MLE like the Celtics. Not many players who won't take the full MLE, but you could get for 1-2M more.
 

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That’s a lot of second and late first round draft picks. I wasn’t a fan of the Ferguson pick at the time, but it’s tough to fault those picks considering where they were taken and the drafts they were taken in.
 

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That’s a lot of second and late first round draft picks. I wasn’t a fan of the Ferguson pick at the time, but it’s tough to fault those picks considering where they were taken and the drafts they were taken in.
The other part is that for a team that had and let guys like Durant, Harden and Westbrook go, they have managed to stay relevant precisely because Presti makes good overall moves. CP3 stans were kind of intrigued by their roster last season but most of the NBA universe had them finishing outside the playoffs and ESPN's panel had them at 33 wins vs they 44 realized.
 

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The other part is that for a team that had and let guys like Durant, Harden and Westbrook go, they have managed to stay relevant precisely because Presti makes good overall moves. CP3 stans were kind of intrigued by their roster last season but most of the NBA universe had them finishing outside the playoffs and ESPN's panel had them at 33 wins vs they 44 realized.
Well it’s easier to make moves and attract quality FAs when you smash on a unicorn pick like Perry Jones.




(I hope I’m remembering correctly that he was the apple of the Port Cellar’s eye during the 2012 draft, or that joke is gonna land flatter than a Stanley Johnson jump shot)
 

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He was, although I was on the Jae Crowder bandwagon (you know me and the Marquette guys). I also liked Baylor's Quincies (Acy and Miller), though neither ever amounted to anything more than bench fodder.