I'm seeing some Mets fans hoping they didn't trade either of the prospects who ended up going out. welp.
This is fucking funnyI picture locking Cashman and Danny Ainge in a room, as the air is slowing drained from it, and telling them the only way to save their lives is to make a deal that's fair to both sides
Well, when they get such mindblowingly hot prospects as a 25 year old catcher hitting .195/.303/.335 in his second season at Double-A. Definitely worth giving up Vargas AND cash.Vargas to the Phillies. More to come.
I guess the Mets don't mind dealing to their rivals...
My favorite line is when Stroman talks about Toronto appreciating him ... not Marcus Stroman ... his fatherBlue Jays had to close their locker room following Sunday’s game because Stroman went nuts after hearing he had been traded to the Mets.
https://nypost.com/2019/07/29/marcus-stromans-yankees-desire-confirmed-after-ugly-clubhouse-scene/
This is good. Very good.I picture locking Cashman and Danny Ainge in a room, as the air is slowing drained from it, and telling them the only way to save their lives is to make a deal that's fair to both sides
Inside info? From how long ago ...Well, when they get such mindblowingly hot prospects as a 25 year old catcher hitting .195/.303/.335 in his second season at Double-A. Definitely worth giving up Vargas AND cash.
Oh, Mets.
Just when I thought we've seen it all....the Mets keep on surprising us.Inside info? From how long ago ...
[B]Jon Heyman[/B]Verified account @JonHeyman 16m16 minutes ago
Austin Bossart played at Penn, same as Bradley Wilpon, Jeff’s son. So Mets may have had some inside info on him.
Somewhat strange quote by the Phillies GM. Seems a bit back-handed to me. . . . .Vargas to the Phillies. More to come.
I guess the Mets don't mind dealing to their rivals...
I like Ray.Gammons is hearing Clint Frazier to AZ for Robbie Ray or Archie Bradley or multi players. Not Garcia for both.
They should. Getting Stroman means Wheeler is even more expendable than he already was to begin with. A rotation of deGrom-Stroman-Syndergaard-Matz-5th guy is very good. They really shouldn't deal Diaz either if they are truly serious about trying to contend next year.If they're dealing away Wheeler, do they then keep Thor?
The Mets are less logical than any other franchise and even more so in the Brodie era, but I'd think one wouldn't really affect the other. Wheeler is a FA this winter, they should move him no matter what. I also don't think they're getting the offers they hope/expect on Thor.If they're dealing away Wheeler, do they then keep Thor?
Unless they have someone who is going to be less expensive/under longer control coming in or coming up as part of the move. Then again...They should. Getting Stroman means Wheeler is even more expendable than he already was to begin with. A rotation of deGrom-Stroman-Syndergaard-Matz-5th guy is very good. They really shouldn't deal Diaz either if they are truly serious about trying to contend next year.
...there is this fact. If an MLB team could embody schizophrenia, it would be the Mets.The Mets are less logical than any other franchise and even more so in the Brodie era, but I'd think one wouldn't really affect the other. Wheeler is a FA this winter, they should move him no matter what. I also don't think they're getting the offers they hope/expect on Thor.
The Diaz trade rumors really never made sense to me. As you point out, Stroman trade is to contend next year, so why are they trading their best relief asset who is under control when his value is at a low? My guess is that the Mets move Wheeler. They move Syndergaard if they get MLB players who can help next year.They should. Getting Stroman means Wheeler is even more expendable than he already was to begin with. A rotation of deGrom-Stroman-Syndergaard-Matz-5th guy is very good. They really shouldn't deal Diaz either if they are truly serious about trying to contend next year.
Rosenthal said:The#Mets scratched Ervin Santana from his Triple A start today. Syndergaard scheduled to pitch for them in majors tonight. Not known whether two are linked.
Has Thor's picture been removed from the Mets website banner?
I think the Diaz rumors are basically coming from a 'maybe he's not cut out for closing in NY' mindset. Which, to be fair, NY has had a history of closers that stuff-wise are good, but then tend to implode in playoff/serious pressure situations (Familia being the latest in a long line).The Diaz trade rumors really never made sense to me. As you point out, Stroman trade is to contend next year, so why are they trading their best relief asset who is under control when his value is at a low? My guess is that the Mets move Wheeler. They move Syndergaard if they get MLB players who can help next year.
How does Familia fit that characterization? He gave up 1 run in 14 2/3 innings in their 2015 WS season. That doesn't seem like imploding in playoff pressure to me.I think the Diaz rumors are basically coming from a 'maybe he's not cut out for closing in NY' mindset. Which, to be fair, NY has had a history of closers that stuff-wise are good, but then tend to implode in playoff/serious pressure situations (Familia being the latest in a long line).
Otherwise, I do agree - obviously I'm a little biased, but I do think that the Mets are basically a competent bullpen away from being at least a serious wild-card contending team (which, coupled with top-tier starters, makes a dangerous playoff team), and they certainly have enough payroll flexibility to build a bullpen in the offseason. Now, you could have said that about 2019 as well, and they obviously didn't... but I don't think there's an obvious need for a complete teardown.
Stop introducing facts that don't fit his narrativeHow does Familia fit that characterization? He gave up 1 run in 14 2/3 innings in their 2015 WS season. That doesn't seem like imploding in playoff pressure to me.
The Mets have bigger issues than their 25 man. They don't set their players up for success, too much turmoil day-to-day, and management issues from top to bottom. I will take them seriously when they earn it. 6 months ago they acquired Keon Broxton and DFAd him 3 months later. Acquired Cano and he's been a disaster. Acquired Diaz and are trading him already.I think the Diaz rumors are basically coming from a 'maybe he's not cut out for closing in NY' mindset. Which, to be fair, NY has had a history of closers that stuff-wise are good, but then tend to implode in playoff/serious pressure situations (Familia being the latest in a long line).
Otherwise, I do agree - obviously I'm a little biased, but I do think that the Mets are basically a competent bullpen away from being at least a serious wild-card contending team (which, coupled with top-tier starters, makes a dangerous playoff team), and they certainly have enough payroll flexibility to build a bullpen in the offseason. Now, you could have said that about 2019 as well, and they obviously didn't... but I don't think there's an obvious need for a complete teardown.
I'll believe this when actual moves besides Stroman get made, only 20 hours to go.The trade market is finally beginning to unclog.
Posturing time is almost up. Time to start making deals.I'll believe this when actual moves besides Stroman get made, only 20 hours to go.
Doesn't really matter. All it is is something he can leverage into a contract extension or something else he wants.I'll say this again since no report includes it for some reason. Bumgarner has a limited no trade and Houston and New York are on his list.
Well, he could just say no, but he will hurt his offseason earning ability then unless he works out a long-term deal with SF as he'll have to turn down a qualifying offer and then there will be a pick attached.Doesn't really matter. All it is is something he can leverage into a contract extension or something else he wants.
In other words, it does matter because the price to acquire him would be higher.Doesn't really matter. All it is is something he can leverage into a contract extension or something else he wants.