Colts fire Frank Reich

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Here’s one of the biggest issues that new Colts’ interim HC will encounter once he arrives in Indianapolis later today: no one on his staff has called NFL plays before. It will be one of Saturday’s first orders of business, figuring out who will call plays Sunday vs. the Raiders.
 

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This is totally ridiculous - just pure nonsense. Saturday has no idea how to run a team. I'm sure he knows football - but come on.

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Insane. If you're just looking for some old school fun good will from former player... Reggie Wayne is your receivers coach. Use him as a figure head with Bradley and Fox advising. At least you could squint and see that as something as a Colts player.

This is... nonsense.
 

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Insane. If you're just looking for some old school fun good will from former player... Reggie Wayne is your receivers coach. Use him as a figure head with Bradley and Fox advising. At least you could squint and see that as something as a Colts player.

This is... nonsense.
It is. So what's driving it? Tanking? Saturday was done before Ballard was involved, so cronyism seems out. Unless this is irsay's move?
 

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Here’s one of the biggest issues that new Colts’ interim HC will encounter once he arrives in Indianapolis later today: no one on his staff has called NFL plays before. It will be one of Saturday’s first orders of business, figuring out who will call plays Sunday vs. the Raiders.
This guy is going to save Nathaniel Hackett's job by instantly becoming the worst HC in the league. Hackett will look like a genius next to Saturday.
 

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This guy is going to save Nathaniel Hackett's job by instantly becoming the worst HC in the league. Hackett will look like a genius next to Saturday.
Unfortunately, they already played. It was one of the most putrid games of the season, but the Saturday-Hackett face-off game would've been EPIC.
 

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Even bringing in an experienced coach mid-season is a really hard transition since there isn't existing knowledge of the players, scheme, other coaches, etc. And Fox and Bradley certainly can't be happy. WTF are the Colts thinking here?
 

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Wouldn't the fact that people like Bradley and Fox being on staff make it more likely that someone like Saturday could come in and be the "coach" of a team? Like he can talk to the media and throw the challenge flag, but there are very experienced people behind him kind of running the show.
 

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Going from Frank Reich/Matt Ryan to Jeff Saturday/Sam Ehlinger is a hell of a trip. Irsay wants to watch the world burn again for a while.
 

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I actually like Saturday, and think he COULD be a decent coach,...some day. But seems insane to go here so soon. Make him your O-Line coach. Elevate him fo OC in 2 years, then if he checks out, fine.
 

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Wouldn't the fact that people like Bradley and Fox being on staff make it more likely that someone like Saturday could come in and be the "coach" of a team? Like he can talk to the media and throw the challenge flag, but there are very experienced people behind him kind of running the show.
Agreed ... plus, Fox and Bradley have seen it all in their careers in terms of coaching situations, so while they might be pissed off they know their next jobs depend on trying to look good through this mess
 

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Wouldn't the fact that people like Bradley and Fox being on staff make it more likely that someone like Saturday could come in and be the "coach" of a team? Like he can talk to the media and throw the challenge flag, but there are very experienced people behind him kind of running the show.
Why not give Reggie Wayne the job then? He's a Ring of Honor Member, he has current experience coaching in the NFL as a WR coach for the Colts themselves.
 

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Why not give Reggie Wayne the job then? He's a Ring of Honor Member, he has current experience coaching in the NFL as a WR coach for the Colts themselves.
Don’t you think Marvin Harrison deserves a shot?

In Indy‘s defense, if they pull out a victory - “won a game with a HS coach” is the most prestigious banner they’ve had in over a decade.
 

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Suck for Stroud? Doesn’t have the same ring to it, but Irsay is a man that knows what needs to be done.

He’s just smart enough not to say he’ll pay Saturday for losing games out loud or tamper with Tom Brady on his yacht.
 

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Suck for Stroud? Doesn’t have the same ring to it, but Irsay is a man that knows what needs to be done.

He’s just smart enough not to say he’ll pay Saturday for losing games out loud or tamper with Tom Brady on his yacht.
No “I’ll gladly pay Saturday for losing games on Sunday”?
 

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Breer slicing like a hammer, as always.

Reich was always a poor coach. He punted away some ridiculously easy chance in OT in his first year, collapsed last year and they're garbage this year. Ballard stinks too but the coach is always the first to go.

Man that SB52 winning staff has certainly crashed and burned since then.
I would argue that the losing side's staff has not done all that well, either.

Reich will get a job within minutes, probably down in Jacksonville if he wants it. I would agree that he made some mistakes, but man is that Colts personnel "on paper good" and not actually good. I understood why they grabbed Rivers, I was grateful that he grabbed Wentz (even though I saw that train wreck coming for Frank) and I was stunned that he chose Ryan. They HAVE to be thinking that this is the season to grab a QB...no?
 

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I would argue that the losing side's staff has not done all that well, either.

Reich will get a job within minutes, probably down in Jacksonville if he wants it. I would agree that he made some mistakes, but man is that Colts personnel "on paper good" and not actually good. I understood why they grabbed Rivers, I was grateful that he grabbed Wentz (even though I saw that train wreck coming for Frank) and I was stunned that he chose Ryan. They HAVE to be thinking that this is the season to grab a QB...no?
He won't get another job this year, if only because it's week 9 and few coaches are going to upend their apple carts in the middle of the stream.

He appears to be another guy who was good as a coordinator and poor as a HC. Luck retired and Rivers retired, OK. Choosing Wentz was egregiously dumb, and that's on Reich. And this year they've handled the QB position lamentably poorly. Signing Ryan indicated they thought they would make a run this year, but since then....yikes.
 

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He won't get another job this year, if only because it's week 9 and few coaches are going to upend their apple carts in the middle of the stream.

He appears to be another guy who was good as a coordinator and poor as a HC. Luck retired and Rivers retired, OK. Choosing Wentz was egregiously dumb, and that's on Reich. And this year they've handled the QB position lamentably poorly. Signing Ryan indicated they thought they would make a run this year, but since then....yikes.
I think, while it ended poorly (doesn’t it always?) and I understand their moving on, he was a competent head coach. How many coaches justifiably last 4-5 years? Are they all poor?
 

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It is. So what's driving it? Tanking? Saturday was done before Ballard was involved, so cronyism seems out. Unless this is irsay's move?
I'd be surprised if Irsay wasn't involved. Have to wonder if race was a factor as well.



He appears to be another guy who was good as a coordinator and poor as a HC.
Was he good as a coordinator? Looks like he had one year out of his four years where his offense was above average. That resulted in a nice Super Bowl win that Reich was able to capitalize on. Certainly there are guys with more impressive resumes as OC that don't get that chance.
 

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I'd be surprised if Irsay wasn't involved. Have to wonder if race was a factor as well.



Was he good as a coordinator? Looks like he had one year out of his four years where his offense was above average. That resulted in a nice Super Bowl win that Reich was able to capitalize on. Certainly there are guys with more impressive resumes as OC that don't get that chance.
I'll give him plenty of credit for getting Wentz to play like an MVP for 13 games in their SB year. Given what we've seen from Wentz since, that's quite an accomplishment.

In terms of his being a HC, they won one playoff game with Luck as their QB, which ain't nothing but they likely were looking for more. Once Luck retired he had to figure out the QB question and never did. He's the guy with the offensive background, he needed to do better with that.
 

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I'll give him plenty of credit for getting Wentz to play like an MVP for 13 games in their SB year. Given what we've seen from Wentz since, that's quite an accomplishment.

In terms of his being a HC, they won one playoff game with Luck as their QB, which ain't nothing but they likely were looking for more. Once Luck retired he had to figure out the QB question and never did. He's the guy with the offensive background, he needed to do better with that.
He did end up getting a fairly decent year out of Brissett despite the suddenness of the Luck retirement.
 

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I think, while it ended poorly (doesn’t it always?) and I understand their moving on, he was a competent head coach. How many coaches justifiably last 4-5 years? Are they all poor?
Hang on, what's your basis for making this claim?

I mean, there were video breakdowns upthread. Haven't we had the wheels fully off and the train screeching ahead purely on momentum for basically 12 months now?
 

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Hang on, what's your basis for making this claim?

I mean, there were video breakdowns upthread. Haven't we had the wheels fully off and the train screeching ahead purely on momentum for basically 12 months now?

I said the team’s performance the end of last year/into this year and the trajectory of the team justified his dismissal. Plenty of coaches get canned while having a resume/skillset that merits a second look by another team.

If you think the last year wipes out ‘18-20, then there are gonna be a lot of coaches who performed well with the firing team prior to their descent then performed well for another team that get tossed in the trash.

I do not think he is a ‘poor’ head coach. That’s completely compatible with the belief that he shouldn’t be the Colts head coach going forward.
 

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I was listening to a podcast, maybe The Athletic, and they were contrasting how Miami is all in, but you can see the progress that they’ve made and they’ve sort of set themselves a clearly defined window now.

The Colts seemed to always keep living for tomorrow. They would have all this cap space and not utilize it. They would have a 1-2 year solution at QB and shuffle someone else in. It felt like they were never ready to push all their chips in at any point after Luck retired.
 

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Maybe Saturday sucks. But Bradley definitely sucks. Fox - I mean whatever, I feel like if you name Fox coach then you're kind of in a position where if he has this team rally for a bit you're forced to bring him back next year. But Fox sucks too.
 

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Maybe Saturday sucks. But Bradley definitely sucks. Fox - I mean whatever, I feel like if you name Fox coach then you're kind of in a position where if he has this team rally for a bit you're forced to bring him back next year. But Fox sucks too.
So you think they are worried they might not be bad enough to move on from? in 8 games?

What about Wayne or hundreds of other coaches with actual experience?
 

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No, no, the day before yesterday.
Got em. It still feels like they’re living for tomorrow because Saturday was brought in to steer the tank without the team and locker room imploding.

This guy doesn’t even have a play caller on his staff. Is Peyton going to text him plays? They literally just hired a mediocre HS coach to come in and evaluate the roster for the rest of the season.
 

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Got em. It still feels like they’re living for tomorrow because Saturday was brought in to steer the tank without the team and locker room imploding.

This guy doesn’t even have a play caller on his staff. Is Peyton going to text him plays? They literally just hired a mediocre HS coach to come in and evaluate the roster for the rest of the season.
Indy players going to be making a lot of “business decisions” the rest of the year. I wonder what old friend Stephon Gilmore makes of his recent career choices…