Collins traded to Cleveland per Schefter
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Blockbuster deal: Patriots traded LB Jamie Collins to Cleveland for a compensatory third-round pick, sources tell ESPN.
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This can't be real. Something more than a pick at the end of the third round has to be coming back.
Mike Reiss @MikeReiss 1m1 minute ago
LB Jamie Collins played 48 of 70 defensive snaps vs. Bills, which was unusual because he's usually every-down player. Subbed vs. FB package
LB Jamie Collins played 48 of 70 defensive snaps vs. Bills, which was unusual because he's usually every-down player. Subbed vs. FB package
wowowowowow.
Was wondering about all the linebacker movement last week, but thought it was more about someone being dinged up and Collins or Hightower being a surprise IR candidate. This is certainly a facemelter.
I mean, they generally don't get these type of trades wrong but between the way the team was rolling, the lack of playmaking on defense after moving Jones, and the uninspiring return...wonder if the lack of a contract for next year was getting disruptive in some way or something.
Was wondering about all the linebacker movement last week, but thought it was more about someone being dinged up and Collins or Hightower being a surprise IR candidate. This is certainly a facemelter.
I mean, they generally don't get these type of trades wrong but between the way the team was rolling, the lack of playmaking on defense after moving Jones, and the uninspiring return...wonder if the lack of a contract for next year was getting disruptive in some way or something.
I am not surprised that Collins has been traded. Apropos of the date, he was somewhat trick or treat. He made some incredible plays and disappeared. But still, that the return was only a late round third is kind of shocking to me. I was assuming they'd get a first or at least a second if they traded him this season.
Now go sign Hightower!
Now go sign Hightower!
Roberts has been the better player, though I'd think they'd keep him for depth this season. Maybe there's another issue there and/or maybe they really like what they've seen from one of the others (Mingo?) in practice. Oh well.
I kind of figured they wouldn't bring back both Hightower and Collins, but the timing of this is a jaw-dropper.
Yeah this is the part I don't understand. They'd have gotten a comp pick in 2018 anyway. If the trade was for a straight 3rd rounder - aka the 65th pick - I would have understood it a bit more.
"Hey Hightower, you want to talk an extension now at a reasonable price or you want to go to the Browns too?"
This is the only thing that really makes sense. This is the message to everyone else on the team. Don't let contract negotiations get in the way of doing your job, or else you will go from the best team to the worst team, and you will have to move from Boston to Cleveland.
They'll jump a full round since Cleveland is going to pick like 65th or 66th and given the number of players that are up for free agency they weren't necessarily going to get a 3rd round comp pick for Collins, but doesn't seem like great value.
I wonder if it's a locker room/chemistry issue. Not that Collins is a bad guy or anything but just that the defense needs a kick in the pants, Collins hasn't been playing great (and isn't worth the extension) so maybe this shakes things up?
Breer's tweet simply says "3rd round pick" and makes no mention of compensatory. So, maybe there is hope that it is for, essentially, pick #65
michael lombardi @mlombardifoxtv 8m8 minutes ago
Not surprised by the Pats trading Colllins. Not been playing well at all they need to get the defense fixed. This will get their attention
Not surprised by the Pats trading Colllins. Not been playing well at all they need to get the defense fixed. This will get their attention
There has to be more to this that we obviously don't know.
Maybe the hidden footage came out and Jamie was Hernandez's trigger-man?
Maybe the hidden footage came out and Jamie was Hernandez's trigger-man?
Yeah good point above this can't be a comp pick - those haven't been awarded - this has to be for #65
BB the coach is always focused on the next week's game. BB the general manager has always been focused on maximizing win equity over multiple seasons.
Seriously, why would the Browns do this? They are 0-8; even if they were to win every single game left on their schedule they're missing the playoffs. Winning games in 2016 is now a bad thing for their future. Jamie Collins is an UFA at the end of the season. How does this help the Browns in any fashion? Do they think that, after seeing how well-run an organization the Browns are, he'll re-sign with them for a discount?
This is pretty much where I'm at, though I don't know if I would say I'm not surprised. He was definitely inconsistent.
I think a lot of people are blinded by the big plays he makes, and seem to not notice the plays he allows because he guesses wrong, over pursues, takes a bad angle, etc. Especially in this defense, that stuff doesn't really fly.
Damn, not a fan of the trade, or the return. Can't believe they couldn't get at least a 2nd rounder.
Long term view, coming into the season they had to resign Hightower, Collins, Jones, Butler, Sheard, & Ryan. Now Collins is gone, Jones is gone, and Ryan is being demoted. Plenty of money to go around now.
Long term view, coming into the season they had to resign Hightower, Collins, Jones, Butler, Sheard, & Ryan. Now Collins is gone, Jones is gone, and Ryan is being demoted. Plenty of money to go around now.
He probably can't be but if he is asking for something like 50 million guaranteed with his sporadic play no chance the Patriots were going to do that.
Collins on the second play of the game does whatever he wants and Bills gain 28 yards. Been happening all year. It was not going to continue
-michael lombardi
Well, he's a free agent, so the bad teams won't give up a second and you don't want to trade him to a good team. I'm not even sure why the Browns want him for a 3rd.
This is well and good, but that LB corps wasn't exactly teeming with depth before this. And with Hightower's injury history? Scary. Would hate to see a repeat of "Eric Alexander, AFC Championship Game starter."