College Football Week 15 Game Thread - Championship Weekend

Fred in Lynn

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Didn’t Wisconsin lose to Illinois? Did the color analyst go to Wisconsin? He seems to be making whatever argument he can to get Wisconsin to Pasadena and keep Penn State out. I’m not seeing how that happens, but bowl selection frequently is done with a Magic 8 Ball so who knows.
 

Fred in Lynn

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Nobody outside of the Top 3 deserves consideration IMO. I used to think 8 teams but 4 is plenty.
You like vanilla, I like butterscotch, and around and around we go. There’s no good reason a competitive sport should rely on judges when it doesn’t have to. I don’t think it’s much of a mystery who the best four teams are, but that’s not really the point.
 

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Didn’t Wisconsin lose to Illinois? Did the color analyst go to Wisconsin? He seems to be making whatever argument he can to get Wisconsin to Pasadena and keep Penn State out. I’m not seeing how that happens, but bowl selection frequently is done with a Magic 8 Ball so who knows.
Penn State is better than Wisconsin.
 

Fred in Lynn

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Penn State is better than Wisconsin.
Sure they are, and I’m okay with arguing that when it comes to bowl games outside the playoff or for the at-large bids that would be necessary for a hypothetical 8-team playoff where the Power 5 had automatic bids. It’s the qualification requirements to make the playoff that make no sense, are illogical, and unfair. This year, you’d still have the same four we know are going plus Oregon, we’d get an extra round of playoff games (oh, no!) and it would make sense. The regular season and conference playoffs would be guaranteed to mean something.
 

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Someday, the NCAA will get smart and make it an 8-team playoff with automatic bids for the Power 5 conference winners. Alas, I’ll be dead by then.
This is the format I’ve wanted too. This year, though, I have to admit the 4-team format will work perfectly, assuming the committee gets its shit together and gives LSU the #1 seed.

That said, I’d enjoy an opening round with the following four games, even acknowledging there would be three heavy favorites:

LSU-PSU
tOSU-Florida
Clemson-Oregon
Oklahoma-Georgia
 

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OSU-Clemson would be a hell of a lot of fun if LSU is #1. I guess it doesn't really matter who is #1, the #2 vs. #3 game is going to be fantastic.
 

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Penn State is better than Wisconsin.
Are they? In home games with Michigan, Wisconsin blew them out and Penn St won narrowly. In road games at Minnesota with a lot on the line Wisconsin won pretty handily and Penn St got beat.

I don’t really have a dog in the fight but just watching a fair amount of Big 10 games this year Wisconsin has seemed like the second best team in the conference to me all year. I’d send them to Pasadena.
 

Fred in Lynn

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Are they? In home games with Michigan, Wisconsin blew them out and Penn St won narrowly. In road games at Minnesota with a lot on the line Wisconsin won pretty handily and Penn St got beat.

I don’t really have a dog in the fight but just watching a fair amount of Big 10 games this year Wisconsin has seemed like the second best team in the conference to me all year. I’d send them to Pasadena.
Penn State went to Columbus, and had OSU on the ropes with a backup QB. They would have been 2nd and goal from the 1 at Minny for the win if not for that awful OPI call. They didn’t lose to Illinois. They only had two loses, not three.

We’re just a bunch of guys cherry-picking data to make a case, and the problem is that often ends up deciding who gets a chance to play for a National Championship in the current scenario. We deserve better. The players certainly deserve better. College football will always have some subjectivity to the process because the player “drafting” process (recruiting) process and financial resources are unequal, and there are simply too many teams in conferences of differing strength to ensure every FCS team has the same chance at winning a NC. However, with modest changes, it could be ensured that future fan debates were pushed to the periphery, at best to discussions of who “deserves” to go to a non-playoff bowl or at best who should make up at-large bids to a playoff, which would ideally be 8 teams.
 

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It looks like the Sooners are going to get in, which makes me very happy, now I have a team to root for, the other three I could care less about.

I'm also happy for Jalen, he's a great kid, glad things turned out for him the way they did.

I'm not counting on it, but if the Sooners go on a magical run and win the whole thing, that would be something special.

Watching this forum melt down/heads explode across America over it would be the icing on the cake.