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StuckOnYouk

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Rick Pitino and Bobby Petrino, these guys should have a reality show together...might be the most popular porn in Kentucky
 
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So how big of deal is it in Texas that Red McCombs hates the Strong hire? He was on radio and San Antonio and just bashed the hiring of Strong. According to article he has donated over 100 million to the school.
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/red-mccombs-bashes-texas-hire/t/story?id=21449215&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

 
 
I'm not sure that even counts as veiled racism when you think a two-time national champion DC and multiple conference title-winning head coach is "Maybe a coordinator."
 

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I'm not sure that even counts as veiled racism when you think a two-time national champion DC and multiple conference title-winning head coach is "Maybe a coordinator."
 
My brother and I had that same conversation yesterday. And I had the exact same reaction as canderson: he wanted Gruden, so he should stfu.
 
If this outburst by McCombs isn't proof of how dysfunctional things were in Austin, I don't know what is. All hail Steve Patterson, indeed!
 

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Pat Forde: Petrino hire is imminent at Louisville.
 
His wiki timeline shows 2014: Louisville
 

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I wonder if they will have a "no motorcylcles and no fucking ex-volleyball players" clause in his contract. Our resident Louisville fan in the office is not happy.
 

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I wonder if they will have a "no motorcylcles and no fucking ex-volleyball players" clause in his contract. Our resident Louisville fan in the office is not happy.
Not to mention a ridiculous buyout.
 

Yeah Jeets

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I was kind of surprised Strong opted for Texas instead of holding out for Florida until I saw the 5/25. Muschamp's initial deal at UF was 5/13.75, though at the moment I think he's making ~$3M. With Bridgewater gone and a conference switch, have to take the money while it's there. 

Hopefully he's actually given time and doesn't get bogged down in petty politics. 
 

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Not a coach, but Arizona State appears to be making a big hire to replace Patterson.
 
 
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Sources: Ray Anderson, the NFL's former executive vice president of football operations will be ASU's next Vice President for Athletics.
 
Huge pay cut for Anderson, but doesn't seem like he really needs money. Announcement should come 11:30 AZ time tomorrow. 
 
Take that Texas!
 

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Yeah Jeets said:
I was kind of surprised Strong opted for Texas instead of holding out for Florida until I saw the 5/25. Muschamp's initial deal at UF was 5/13.75, though at the moment I think he's making ~$3M. With Bridgewater gone and a conference switch, have to take the money while it's there. 

Hopefully he's actually given time and doesn't get bogged down in petty politics. 
 
Honestly Texas is just a better job than Florida.    Florida is a great program,  great talent base,  big budget,  but Texas is Texas.  You don't turn down Texas in hopes that maybe in the future Florida will come.
 

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Texas has lost quite a few high profile recruits since Strong was named coach. Not sure what to think of it this early.
I wouldn't sweat it - it's inevitable. Recruits often identify with a specific position coach and frequently follow that guy to his new school. I would expect Strong to pick up a few recruits that identify with him. It won't be a top-ten class, but then it was never destined to be with the Mack Brown recruiting shitshow that was this year.
 
The expectations for Strong for 2014 are reasonable: win eight games and a bowl; institute discipline, toughness and accountability in the football program; no bad losses; set everything up for a great recruiting class for 2015 and start to kick ass. Take a look at the first-year records for Saban at 'Bama, Meyer at UF, and some other elite coaches in their first year at rebuilding a top program. It takes a year or so to get things going when the cupboard is a bit bare, especially as it is at Texas at QB and DL.
 

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Honestly Texas is just a better job than Florida.    Florida is a great program,  great talent base,  big budget,  but Texas is Texas.  You don't turn down Texas in hopes that maybe in the future Florida will come.
In theory it's the best job in college football and they should be pushing the top 5 in the January polls every year. The reality has only really come close to matching the myth under Darrell Royal and, incidentally, Mack. Look at some of the recent coaching searches for USC, Michigan, Tennessee, etc. Before lucking into Saban and Meyer, Bama was firing someone every few years and Ohio State went through the big-name rumor gauntlet before hiring a guy from Youngstown State. These destination jobs typically aren't what they appear to be.

Strong coached at Florida for 14 years and won two NCs after also being a GA there. IMO, if UF offers him the same deal at the same time, he's back in Gainesville. 
 

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Yeah Jeets said:
In theory it's the best job in college football and they should be pushing the top 5 in the January polls every year. The reality has only really come close to matching the myth under Darrell Royal and, incidentally, Mack. Look at some of the recent coaching searches for USC, Michigan, Tennessee, etc. Before lucking into Saban and Meyer, Bama was firing someone every few years and Ohio State went through the big-name rumor gauntlet before hiring a guy from Youngstown State. These destination jobs typically aren't what they appear to be.

Strong coached at Florida for 14 years and won two NCs after also being a GA there. IMO, if UF offers him the same deal at the same time, he's back in Gainesville. 
 
I'm not sure.   Florida also passed him over at least twice when in theory he was a strong candidate for the job.  He has expressed bitterness in the past about how not getting head coaching opportunities.  So I think it is quite possible he would have chosen the marquee name in college football, over a school that passed him over twice (second time he was already at Louisville for a year, but should have been a legit candidate given what they ultimately hired)
 

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canderson said:
Texas has lost quite a few high profile recruits since Strong was named coach. Not sure what to think of it this early.
 
"Quite a few" and "high profile" are exaggerations.
 
The one that hurts from a talent standpoint is the guy who "commited" to TCU, then to us, then to Tech, back to us, and then to A&M. Frankly, those guys never work out.
 
The defensive staff has already been gutted -- if CS had no interest in retaining those guys, I don't see why we should worry about their recruits.
 

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UT's rich oil and gas alums were apparently offering to include him on some of their deals as a side, and probably illegal (with respect to NCAA rules), benefit.
 
There are no NCAA rules regarding compensation. 
 

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It comes from all over the place -- media rights, apparel endorsements, etc. Not all salaries are fully funded by the athletic department -- a large percentage of Mack's salary was subsidized by an alumni association.
 

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Spaz interviewed for the DC job at Rutgers.
 
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Rutgers interviews former BC coach Frank Spaziani for defensive coordinator opening
That is not a surprise and as a Coordinator, Spaz wasn't bad. In fact they were pretty good. The problem for Spaz was that he hit the Peter Principle, he rose to his level of incompetence. He is NOT a head coach nor is he the face if a program. But he is OK as defensive coordinator. There are some guys who should always be assistants. Spaz is one of them. He might do just fine in New Jersey.
 

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@AlabamaFTBL: Alabama football has hired Lane Kiffin to be its next offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. #RollTide

I love it. Alabama is now The Evil Empire.
 
Now?  
 

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@AlabamaFTBL: Alabama football has hired Lane Kiffin to be its next offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. #RollTide

I love it. Alabama is now The Evil Empire.
Revisiting the story of Lane Kiffin is always fun. Norm Chow left for the Tennessee Titans before the 2005 season and Kiffin took over as USC OC. That offense had three eventual first rounders (two of which were Heisman winners), seven second rounders, and a third rounder. They put up 580 yards and 50 points per game and their lowest point total of the season was 34. Unsurprisingly, in 2006 that production dropped to a respectable-but-not-amazing 390 yards and 30 points per game. Kiffin, the young offensive genius, took the Raiders job shortly after. Lane's managed to parlay that 2005 USC offense into one NFL HC job, two HC jobs at two of the top 10 winningest college programs in history, and now the OC position on a team that's gone 72-9 over the last six years with three NCs. 

Fuck Norm Chow. If you hold on for one more year, this guy is coaching in the Mountain West.
 

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Georgia's DC, Todd Grantham, is going to Lousville to be DC for Bobby Petrino. He'll be making $1 million per year, if you're wondering like I was why he would leave for Louisville. It'll be interesting to see who heads to Georgia.
 

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Louisville is paying a coordinator a million a year? Isn't hat crazy coordinator money?
Louisville is acting very desperate since string left but what do they care they already got their life raft
 

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Smart makes $1.28M today, partially because Bama threw some cash at him as other teams are constantly interested. Would be interesting to see him leave Bama for Georgia. Seems his next move would be head coach somewhere.
 

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We threw a ton of cash at Nuss. In this day and age, a mill is becoming more normal for a top program, for better or worse.
 
Orgeron is apparently a candidate to be DL coach at Bama.
 

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Nuss at Michigan, Smart at Bama, Weis at Florida, Grantham at Louisville. No offense to Cardinals fans, but one of these things is not like the others. Louisville is really announcing its arrival in the ACC as a step up onto the national scene. Kudos to them if they can pull it off. 
 

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The weird thing about Grantham is that it's not that big of a raise for him. I think something's amiss in Athens.
 

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"Everybody should be back," Richt said, answering a question specifically about Grantham. "I mean, everybody's got to do what they've got to do as far as if they have opportunities and all that kind of thing. We have some things we've certainly got to get better at, but continuity is a good thing for Georgia."
 
 
Grantham's $850,000 a year contract with Georgia expires at the end January in 2016. He has not openly expressed an interest in leaving UGA but has entertained offers each of his four seasons in Athens. A buyout clause in his contract prevents him from leaving for anything other than an NFL coordinator's job or a college head coach's position.
 
 
http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/uga-sports/2013/dec/01/richt-will-not-initiate-coaching-changes/
 
Richt has a reputation of never firing his assistant coaches. I don't know how true that is, but definitely appears that there's more to this if the article is correct about the buyout clause.
 

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ethangl said:
The weird thing about Grantham is that it's not that big of a raise for him. I think something's amiss in Athens.
 
Ha, nevermind, they just hired Jeremy Pruitt from FSU.