Chris Sale 2020 - TJ Bound and Down

Al Zarilla

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Very well said. Though I do think there was a small earthquake outside San Jose the other day.
Thanks. Missed that one. We are overdue for a big one. Very likeable guy, Chris Sale. I hope he gets through this and comes all the way back.
 

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I would like to see someone from the Sox step up to the mic and tell the Nation what Chris's plan is for the timing of the surgery. Even if the date itself is unknown, it would be good for us fans to at least understand their thinking (team's and Sale's).
Where have you gone Dr. Andrews....the Nation turns its lonely eyes to you, youuuuuuuu....
 

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Apparently non-essential/Covid19 surgeries are still available at least in some parts of the country. This from today's ESPN (3/23)

SAN DIEGO -- Hard-throwing Padres reliever Andres Munoz and minor leaguer Reggie Lawson underwent Tommy John surgery Friday.
Both right-handers were injured shortly before spring training was suspended due to the coronavirus pandemic.
Munoz, 21, made his big league debut last year and appeared in 22 games. He went 1-1 with a 3.91 ERA and 30 strikeouts, against 11 walks. He would have been a key member of the Padres' beefed-up bullpen this season, if and when it resumes.
The 22-year-old Lawson was 3-1 with a 5.20 ERA in six starts with Double-A Amarillo last season before being shut down with an elbow injury. He returned for the Arizona Fall League, going 1-0 with a 0.82 ERA in three appearances, including two starts.
 

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I would like to see someone from the Sox step up to the mic and tell the Nation what Chris's plan is for the timing of the surgery. Even if the date itself is unknown, it would be good for us fans to at least understand their thinking (team's and Sale's).
Why?
 

The Gray Eagle

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Sounds like no one knows yet if Sale has had surgery yet or if it is even scheduled.
Seems he won't be getting operated on in Massachusetts (not that that was likely anyway):

The Red Sox and Sale’s agent, B.B. Abbott, have declined to say when or if Sale’s surgery is scheduled. Major League Baseball and the Players’ Association declined to comment on the propriety of Tommy John surgery at a time when many states are limiting or banning elective surgeries.
In Massachusetts, Gov. Charlie Baker called for the postponement of elective procedures on March 15.
Three Massachusetts orthopedists contacted by the Globe said the state’s prohibition would include ulnar collateral ligament reconstruction (i.e. Tommy John surgery), and that the operation shouldn’t be performed here for anyone, including professional athletes.
No mention in the article about the 2 Padres prospects who recently had TJ surgery, or other players like Verlander who recently had surgery for other injuries.

And this was alarming:
Dr. Chris Geary, an orthopedist at Tufts Medical Center, said he has “a little bit of skin in the game” when it comes to the dilemmas faced by orthopedists who are trying to assist their patients while also being mindful of the broader context. Geary tested positive this week for COVID-19 and is currently quarantined.
 

Ale Xander

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So given Chris is a world-class athlete in the prime of his career, and given the Gulf coast FL weather in winter is dry and mild, should we assume the pneumonia was Covid-19 induced ?
 

Van Everyman

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And not by Dr. Andrews:

Among the doctors who have stopped performing Tommy John procedures in response to the pandemic is Dr. James Andrews. An Andrews Institute spokesperson said on Monday that the institute had suspended elective procedures, including Tommy John.
Suspect there will be some blowback on this, perhaps rightly so.
 

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I read a related article that quoted ElAttrache saying that TJ surgery can be considered essential because the timeliness can impact the remainder of a pitcher’s professional career. Something about tissue damage and repair. ElAttrache knew his comments were controversial and wasn’t dismissive of the pressing issues related to COVID-19, but said it’s a more complex decision with a lot of variables that shouldn’t just be automatically canceled because of the pandemic. I can understand arguments on both sides, but I have to admit I’m not super comfortable with this. (But spare me the faux outrage from the likes of Shank.)
 

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I read somewhere that delaying TJ too long could cause irreparable nerve damage. Of all things to get worked up about, this should be way down the list.
 

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I read somewhere that delaying TJ too long could cause irreparable nerve damage. Of all things to get worked up about, this should be way down the list.
That's basically bullshit. If you keep throwing with an incompetent UCL you can get ulnar nerve symptoms, but the idea that you are going to get permanent nerve damage is just an excuse to move the surgery up
 

barbed wire Bob

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That's basically bullshit. If you keep throwing with an incompetent UCL you can get ulnar nerve symptoms, but the idea that you are going to get permanent nerve damage is just an excuse to move the surgery up
Since you are in quarantine, can we expect to see more of you here? Hopefully the only thing you and your family will have to fight during this time period is boredom.
 

DaveRoberts'Shoes

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Since you are in quarantine, can we expect to see more of you here? Hopefully the only thing you and your family will have to fight during this time period is boredom.
I'll be here. I'm fighting fatigue, a low-grade fever and some upper respiratory stuff but otherwise it could be a lot worse. Probably a good time for people to hit me up with questions if they have them