Cheesesteaks vs. Chowdah Part I - The Sixers/Celtics Series Thread

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Brown talking like the series is over. Already discussing what his younger players can learn from this.
 

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I feel for you, man. Geez, the sixers are not close at all. Considering who is coming back for the Celtics next year. I mean, wow. This has to be incredibly sobering for you.

I don't mean this to be spiteful. Just wow. It has to be stunning to realize how FAR away your team is.

EDIT: Oh and Happy Birthday. 40 sucks.
The Sixers will be adding a top 10 pick and potentially a max FA. They’ll be adding a lot to next year’s team as well. Right now, they need some veterans to show Embiid and Simmons how to handle themselves. Embiid’s lack of maturity is a big issue that nobody really is touching on right now.
 

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It's crazy how much better this team looks than last year's team that struggled with the Wizards. It turns out that not having to gameplan around a midget playing 35-40 minutes a game makes basketball easier.
 

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Just so you guys know.
Yes I'm very sad. Yes the Celtics are better. Yes that was horrendous to watch.
No there aren't any excuses.

Now I'll respond to all you abuse at a later point because believe it or not it's my 40th birthday party today so I'm gonna go be depressed at it
Happy birthday nonetheless, I raise one to your good name.
 

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Honestly I'm happy for you guys, we are fans with something in common.
I didn't really think the sixers were ready this season and got abbit carried away despite knowing the heat team was bad.

Simmons always needed a shot, it doesn't need to be a long one just a little open elbow jumper and work up.
Embiid is still great and given where we were it's all good.

It sucks to see how far they are away when they pushed into the pot for Fultz.

Bottom line Tatum is fantastic, ainge is great Stevens has always been great. I can't stand Kyrie but this team without him is better anyway. (Obviously roziers play probably isn't sustainable long term but he's as good a defender if not better, tries all the time and rebounds much much much better).

I want Fultz to recover for all of us to have a fun rivalry for a LONG time.

Edit this isn't we we're robbed or had stupid bad luck we shall the bed on ever clutch play and couldn't figure any other way to play
I like Brett Brown a lot but try some things out. Where was embiid Simmons pnr, where was JJ embiid pick and roll where was Simmons sealing inside
 

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Honestly I'm happy for you guys, we are fans with something in common.
I didn't really think the sixers were ready this season and got abbit carried away despite knowing the heat team was bad.

Simmons always needed a shot, it doesn't need to be a long one just a little open elbow jumper and work up.
Embiid is still great and given where we were it's all good.

It sucks to see how far they are away when they pushed into the pot for Fultz.

Bottom line Tatum is fantastic, ainge is great Stevens has always been great. I can't stand Kyrie but this team without him is better anyway. (Obviously roziers play probably isn't sustainable long term but he's as good a defender if not better, tries all the time and rebounds much much much better).

I want Fultz to recover for all of us to have a fun rivalry for a LONG time.
At least the Celtics will have a chance when LeBron joins the Sixers :)
 

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Just so you guys know.
Yes I'm very sad. Yes the Celtics are better. Yes that was horrendous to watch.
No there aren't any excuses.

Now I'll respond to all you abuse at a later point because believe it or not it's my 40th birthday party today so I'm gonna go be depressed at it
Happy 40th birthday.LS

Cheer-up,

The loss sucks, but it really was a helluva game.

And the 76ers are going to be good for at least your next 5 birthdays

and fwiw my 67th is a week from today.

Taurus are stubborn SOBs
 

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More important they’ll likely be playing on your birthday for the next 5 years which is all you could have dreamed for as recently as when - a year ago?
 

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Just so you guys know.
Yes I'm very sad. Yes the Celtics are better. Yes that was horrendous to watch.
No there aren't any excuses.

Now I'll respond to all you abuse at a later point because believe it or not it's my 40th birthday party today so I'm gonna go be depressed at it
Happy Birthday!
 

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Which of these is more bush league and embarrassing?

1. Planning to drop confetti after a game 3 win that brings you to a 1 game to 2 deficit

OR

2. Dropping that confetti before the game is over and forcing a 7 minute delay

I think there should be consequences for the home team if they cause a delay of game, inadvertently or otherwise. I was worried that Jaylen’s hasn’t would stiffen up.
 

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and they offer nothing outside. That's a formula for losing basketball.
Reddick is a very good player. If they don’t get LeBron, I’m not sure which max player is going to come in that adds all that much more value than Reddick does. Maybe Boogie?

Wonder if they get shut out on max and end up going after Smart.
 

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and they offer nothing outside. That's a formula for losing basketball.
To be fair, they do have outside shooting. The problem for them is that its good when they are rolling over the 2017-18 Knicks, Nets, Hawks and Magic night after night during the tanking stretch or even the Cavs, who don't scheme like other teams. But when another team has the players and the plan to chase their shooters away from the line, they are in trouble.

As a side note, I don't think Brown deserves the heat he is getting now though he will get it. He is very good and is simply working with a very young team with no playoff experience and some clear flaws. He and Colangelo will fix that in the offseason, whether through trade or free agency or even the draft. These guys will improve and should be as good as advertised. They just aren't ready now.
 

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The Sixers will be adding a top 10 pick and potentially a max FA. They’ll be adding a lot to next year’s team as well. Right now, they need some veterans to show Embiid and Simmons how to handle themselves. Embiid’s lack of maturity is a big issue that nobody really is touching on right now.
There's a 2.9% chance that won't happen. Who's Danny going to send to the draft lottery to sit on the sidelines and exude good karma.
 

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LS: Happy birthday! I see some green in your future.

Anyway: After Game 1, Stevens had it pointed out to him that Embiid got 31 points, and he responded, "how many 3s did they have?"

Tonight several game threaders were observing that they were leaving Baynes on an island against Embiid down low and preventing the kick-out.

It's clear that the overarching strategy here is to avoid getting beat from deep. If you were Brett Brown, how would you respond?
 

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To be fair, they do have outside shooting. The problem for them is that its good when they are rolling over the 2017-18 Knicks, Nets, Hawks and Magic night after night during the tanking stretch or even the Cavs, who don't scheme like other teams. But when another team has the players and the plan to chase their shooters away from the line, they are in trouble.

As a side note, I don't think Brown deserves the heat he is getting now though he will get it. He is very good and is simply working with a very young team with no playoff experience and some clear flaws. He and Colangelo will fix that in the offseason, whether through trade or free agency or even the draft. These guys will improve and should be as good as advertised. They just aren't ready now.

I was referring to your post about Simmons and Embiid. They don't offer much outside shooting and if they are the 2 worst post players, gjge.
 

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Embiid has the balls to bitch about the officiating? Pretty sure Baynes got 5 fouls and he gets away with murder. Loser. Loser team.


 

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It's too late, and the answer was to do some PnR and have Simmons sealing instead of posting and waving the ball around

Under rated part of this was the discipline Boston showed. Against bucks, Cavs etc the moment people turn to look cuts happened and led to easy offense. The Celtics (correctly) said this inside offense isn't that efficient and they aren't good enough to exploit it.

Look at that last horford bucket, sealed Covington away from the basket, easy.
Simmons hasn't learnt that, I think he can

The sixers as built will be a good regular season team, but they need a PNR and iso option for times when it bogs down. And they didn't figure one out this year
 

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Joel Embiid had a bush league play tonight towards the end of the first half. Celtics swung the ball to (I think Rozier) in the corner in front of the Celtics bench, and as he was shooting, Embiid WHO WAS NOT IN THE FUCKING GAME AT THE TIME ran behind him and threw an arm up. Stevens and other Celtics were PISSED, as they should have been. Don't pull that shit and then bitch about the refs.
 

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I feel for you, man. Geez, the sixers are not close at all. Considering who is coming back for the Celtics next year. I mean, wow. This has to be incredibly sobering for you.

I don't mean this to be spiteful. Just wow. It has to be stunning to realize how FAR away your team is.

EDIT: Oh and Happy Birthday. 40 sucks.
This is a really douchey post.
 

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Someone really needs to coach him about spewing this stuff. It's a really bad look and a really stupid statement.
Its fine as long as someone points out that the 76ers had 14 PFs called on them while the Celtics had 20. I am not a big blame the refs guy either way and Embiid wasn't the problem for Philadelphia. However the media needs to point stuff like that out when players and coaches use refereeing as an excuse, especially when the data doesn't support what they are saying.
 

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Watched a few minutes of Warriors vs Pels game...

I'm afraid something similar awaits us today in Philly. My hopes are just to keep it close throughout. Then have Celtics experienced players and Brad's coaching be the edge in a late/tight game.
Glad my fears never materialized and my hopes were answered.

Have to think if the 76ers have any shred of self-respect left they win Game 4 at home. And Celtics win this in 5.

Does Vegas still have the 76ers favored in Game 4?
 

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It's too late, and the answer was to do some PnR and have Simmons sealing instead of posting and waving the ball around
The sixers as built will be a good regular season team, but they need a PNR and iso option for times when it bogs down. And they didn't figure one out this year
NM, mentioned above
 

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Its fine as long as someone points out that the 76ers had 14 PFs called on them while the Celtics had 20. I am not a big blame the refs guy either way and Embiid wasn't the problem for Philadelphia. However the media needs to point stuff like that out when players and coaches use refereeing as an excuse, especially when the data doesn't support what they are saying.
I'm with you on Embiid's comments being groundless, but the refs calling X fouls against one team and Y against another is meaningless in these discussions. Using it as support for ref bias literally begs the question.
 

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They said 7 game series on the telecast.I went to one of the games in that series. The Celtics won something like 160-70 (well not quite)* and then became a very old very slow team overnight.

But the broadcast definitely blew the graphic in game 1 when they said that ten times the winner of a Celtics-Sixers series went on to win the title, eight by Boston two by Philly - since Philly beat Boston en route to their first title in 1967 but not as part of the fo' fo' fi' (ed2:actually fo fi fo, of course)second championship run in 1983, and their third title is lol..

*Ed- turns out it was 157-128. You'll never see 157 points with 1-6 three-point shooting again.
Just realized that they must be counting the Syracuse Nats beating the Celtics in 1955 on their way to the title, which seems stupid. But OK.
 

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Embiid has the balls to bitch about the officiating? Pretty sure Baynes got 5 fouls and he gets away with murder. Loser. Loser team.


Wow. I can't believe he would even say that (even worse if he even believes it). Maybe he doesn't know the rules that well b/c he is so new to the game. He gets away with a decent amount (though to be fair, many stars in the NBA also get this treatment). I watched him commit offensive fouls, travel, and commit defensive fouls that all went uncalled.
 

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Glad my fears never materialized and my hopes were answered.

Have to think if the 76ers have any shred of self-respect left they win Game 4 at home. And Celtics win this in 5.

Does Vegas still have the 76ers favored in Game 4?
Philly is -7
 

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He(Brown) and Colangelo will fix that in the offseason, whether through trade or free agency or even the draft. These guys will improve and should be as good as advertised. They just aren't ready now.
Brett Brown owns Game 2 loss and the players bicker with each after a missed assignment on defense. We really don't know what kind of coach he is. Colangelo Jr, really? I liked the Ilyasova/Beli deadline pickups, but Amir was a questionable signing at those $$$. Holmes would add more energy than Amir at this point. And we'll always have Fultz for Tatum ++
 

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Brett Brown owns Game 2 loss and the players bicker with each after a missed assignment on defense. We really don't know what kind of coach he is. Colangelo Jr, really? I liked the Ilyasova/Beli deadline pickups, but Amir was a questionable signing at those $$$. Holmes would add more energy than Amir at this point. And we'll always have Fultz for Tatum ++
I don't think you can really hodl the Fultz trade against him at the time.
Amir is a one year deal, that specifically left room for Redick and space for Covington extension, I don't think that is worthy of criticism really.

Bayless for three years given these other plans is far worse.
His goal this year was to make the playoffs they did and won a series
By any pre season expectations this was a success. Any failure accusations are based on losing a second round series - which seems harsh.

I am not a colangelo fan at all but moving goalposts is unfair.
Nearly every expert called for less wins and struggling for the playoffs they won the three seed and won a series

Let's remember what they were pre season and not what got everyone carried away last week
 

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The last thing Philly needs is another rookie in the mix. I’d also 100% shy away from any one and dones if I’m Colangelo, and would probably be looking to move it for a vet. Just not sure what’s out there. Cleveland will be in the same market with a higher pick and more useful fodder to trade along with it.
 

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Embiid has the balls to bitch about the officiating? Pretty sure Baynes got 5 fouls and he gets away with murder. Loser. Loser team.


Oh good. I get to spend the next 15 years watching another big guy who is convinced he's fouled on every play. First Giannis now Embiid. But Embiid saying because he is big he literally is de facto fouled on every play puts him in Kareem territory. He's an incredibly talented player but that's pathetic.
 

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Wow. I can't believe he would even say that (even worse if he even believes it). Maybe he doesn't know the rules that well b/c he is so new to the game. He gets away with a decent amount (though to be fair, many stars in the NBA also get this treatment). I watched him commit offensive fouls, travel, and commit defensive fouls that all went uncalled.
I thought the refs had their whistles away for much of the game. Early in the first, they let Simmons hook Rozier as he drove around him, then Tatum did much the same thing at the other end, and neither was called.
 

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Oh good. I get to spend the next 15 years watching another big guy who is convinced he's fouled on every play. First Giannis now Embiid. But Embiid saying because he is big he literally is de facto fouled on every play puts him in Kareem territory. He's an incredibly talented player but that's pathetic.
But he stared down Baynes and like to talk shit as soon as he gets a one point lead down 2-0. He's tough or something.

I wonder if they still haven't played in six days and that explains it?

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I mean, I like the Sixers individually. Simmons seems like a nice kid. Embiid can be really funny when he's not playing you, but man he's easy to hate when it's against your team.
 

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I thought the refs had their whistles away for much of the game. Early in the first, they let Simmons hook Rozier as he drove around him, then Tatum did much the same thing at the other end, and neither was called.

Saric blatantly hooks every time he is in the post
 

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Oh good. I get to spend the next 15 years watching another big guy who is convinced he's fouled on every play. First Giannis now Embiid. But Embiid saying because he is big he literally is de facto fouled on every play puts him in Kareem territory. He's an incredibly talented player but that's pathetic.
I do think the really BIG guys (like shaq most clearly) get beat up inside a lot. The beating Shaq took shortened his career. And I think embiid is more away than ever of any contact around his face given the injury and mask, if his mask is moved enough to need to reapply it I'm sure he felt that was a foul.
And I have some sympathy for that, there were a number of calls where his mask was knocked half off and no call.
Without the mask who knows how obvious that is.
But look this is part of playoff basketball, adjust to the refs. Horford is a master of this and hopefully he'll figure that out. As a guy playing his 6th playoff game I don't know he has understood each game is different and it's different from regular season.

If he knew it he should have been more physical but he's played the same in every game really.

Look my reaction was the same, and I hope people speak to him don't get me wrong.