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Ha, thanks, man. My 15-year-old self wouldn't have believed I'd ever do something like that. My approach was just to point them in a direction and let them go. Forgot to get to Manny, though. Would like to argue with Shaughnessy about advanced stats someday. But that wasn't the time.
 

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Not sure if this should go in the T&R thread or here, but Chad, what are your thoughts on the future of T&R? Fred's said a number of times over the last few months that he wants to be syndicated nationally. Part of their original TV deal was get syndicated, which never happened. He also seems to despise driving to Dorchester on a daily basis.

Seems like Fred wants his big pay day and wants to break out of a single market. I can't imagine Beasley would walk away from T&R with the numbers they've put up since they were on TSH.
 

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Former Pats beat writer Nick Underhill, lastly covering the Saints for the Advocate, is returning to Boston. Not sure his exact role or which outlet yet. I’m sure Chad knows.
 

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I've heard The Athletic.
Is this another "everyone works for the athletic" joke?

Also, great job on the Sox' BP Annual team write-up. Was that piece available anywhere else? I mean, everyone should get the BP Annual, but if they don't, they still should get to read your article.
 

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Is this another "everyone works for the athletic" joke?

Also, great job on the Sox' BP Annual team write-up. Was that piece available anywhere else? I mean, everyone should get the BP Annual, but if they don't, they still should get to read your article.
Thanks. Buying the book is recommended, of course, but Deadspin ran it a few weeks ago too.
 

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On the other hand, I thought this follow-up was unnecessary at best. I would have guessed the author was Shaughnessy if I didn't see the byline. Defending Eckersley (and taking shots at Price) so thoroughly right after writing the glowing profile on him appears blithe to me. For one, the public opinion is already very anti-Price, making this a flame-stoking piece, and Eck is no stranger to saying things that deservedly get him in hot water. If Chad was set on chiming in on this topic, I think it would have been more interesting to examine Eck's role in it.

 
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Worth noting that Chad is taking serious heat online right now -- mostly bc of the way WEEI has stoked anger and resentment amongst its listeners over the last few years. Chad has periodically been in the crosshairs ... and this week it's kind of come to a head:
  • First, you had the 'EEI crowd harboring a grudge against his (somewhat favorable) piece a few years ago on Felger represents some grand conspiracy on the Globe/Henry's part to "stick it" to 'EEI.
  • Then, there was the Callahan mouth breathers flaming him for his (accurate and relatively mild criticism) of Gerry's lack of empathy for people with different worldviews in the midst of a short commentary discussing how otherwise terrific he was at sports talk radio.
  • Now, following this latest reaction piece, he's got Lou Merloni torching him for (rightly) pointing the finger at WEEI for drumming up interest in Eck's comments on Price -- and pointing out that Price is actually mischaracterizing Eck's lack of support from past teammates.
All in all, not good.

T&P, @Chad Finn
 

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Worth noting that Chad is taking serious heat online right now -- mostly bc of the way WEEI has stoked anger and resentment amongst its listeners over the last few years. Chad has periodically been in the crosshairs ... and this week it's kind of come to a head:
  • First, you had the 'EEI crowd harboring a grudge against his (somewhat favorable) piece a few years ago on Felger represents some grand conspiracy on the Globe/Henry's part to "stick it" to 'EEI.
  • Then, there was the Callahan mouth breathers flaming him for his (accurate and relatively mild criticism) of Gerry's lack of empathy for people with different worldviews in the midst of a short commentary discussing how otherwise terrific he was at sports talk radio.
  • Now, following this latest reaction piece, he's got Lou Merloni torching him for (rightly) pointing the finger at WEEI for drumming up interest in Eck's comments on Price -- and pointing out that Price is actually mischaracterizing Eck's lack of support from past teammates.
All in all, not good.

T&P, @Chad Finn
Ah, it's really not a big deal to me. The response to the Eck story has been incredible in a good way -- it was posted for a full day before the Price snipped was aggregated, and I got a lot of nice feedback. I'm used to the other stuff, and I don't see much of it anyway due to blocking/muting noise reduction.
 

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On the other hand, I thought this follow-up was unnecessary at best. I would have guessed the author was Shaughnessy if I didn't see the byline. Defending Eckersley (and taking shots at Price) so thoroughly right after writing the glowing profile on him appears blithe to me. For one, the public opinion is already very anti-Price, making this a flame-stoking piece, and Eck is no stranger to saying things that deservedly get him in hot water. If Chad was set on chiming in on this topic, I think it would have been more interesting to examine Eck's role in it.

I asked him about why he hasn't done one. Said he never will. Would have to get way too deep and personal, because you have to be honest. I actually had a publisher reach out about doing one yesterday. Shaughnessy has asked him to do one before.
 

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Loomer was going OFF on Chad on Early Edition last night. It was bizarre.

"He's a media critic, and shouldn't be criticizing people in the media!!!"

Say what?

Shaughnessy was a co-panelist, and Merloni kept trying to get Shank to agree with him.

On three separate, distinct occasions, Shank stated that he thought Merloni had misread the entire situation and was wrong.

When you can't recruit Shank into a media-on-media tussle, you know you're on the wrong side of the argument.

Trenni couldn't walk him off the ledge either.

tl;dr Framingham Lou is not smart
 

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It's actually "Ordway is pig". Which is somehow even better.
That's great. I like that even better.

"He's a media critic, and shouldn't be criticizing people in the media!!!"
"He's a baseball player, and shouldn't be playing baseball!"
"He's a wood worker, and shouldn't be working with wood!"
"He's a porn star, and shouldn't be starring in porn!"

This game is fun!
 

Chad Finn

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Loomer was going OFF on Chad on Early Edition last night. It was bizarre.

"He's a media critic, and shouldn't be criticizing people in the media!!!"

Say what?

Shaughnessy was a co-panelist, and Merloni kept trying to get Shank to agree with him.

On three separate, distinct occasions, Shank stated that he thought Merloni had misread the entire situation and was wrong.

When you can't recruit Shank into a media-on-media tussle, you know you're on the wrong side of the argument.

Trenni couldn't walk him off the ledge either.

tl;dr Framingham Lou is not smart
They also keep saying I'm the media columnist and I'm not objective. A columnist is, you know, subjective. And when I'm reporting something -- like the ratings, which are basically a template at this point -- I play it as straight as possible (even note the Boston audience for WVEI, even though Nielsen says its not necessary). They don't want the benefit of the doubt. They want constant praise. It's weird.
 

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Hi Chad - Any chance you'll address the Shirley Leung angle? It seems important to note when someone like Bob Murchinson and a Globe columnist work to disrupt a competing media entity.
For instance, was Shirley contacting 'eei advertisers to get a comment for the story, or was it to disparage the station to advertisers in hopes they'd drop their ad dollars? If the latter, it appears highly unethical yet seems to have been brushed under the rug.
It doesn't seem fair to write a column about how it was time for a change based on ratings - when the ratings plunge (at least for the morning show) can be attributed to the actions of the individuals stated above.