CFB 2024 Army-Navy: A thread that had its head re-inserted into its rear end about mid-season and stopped learning anything about how other teams play

[Awesome Fossum]

All times ET. Line from ESPN. Rankings are CFP / FCS seeds. All FBS and FCS games listed.

Friday, Dec 13, 2024
9:00 PM FCS Quarterfinal: 8 Idaho at 1 Montana State, ESPN

Saturday, Dec 14, 2024
12:00 PM Celebration Bowl: Jackson State vs. SC State in Atlanta, ABC
12:00 PM FCS Quarterfinal: 6 Incarnate Word at 3 South Dakota State, ESPN

3:00 PM Navy vs. #22 Army (-4.5) in Landover MD, CBS
3:30 PM FCS Quarterfinal: 7 Mercer at 2 North Dakota State, ABC
4:00 PM FCS Quarterfinal: 5 UC Davis at 4 South Dakota, ESPN+

9:00 PM Veterans Bowl: South Alabama vs. Western Michigan in Montgomery AL, ESPN

 

[Awesome Fossum]

AAC Champ has to go to Shreveport Louisiana to play Sun Belt Champion Marshall for its bowl game. Navy drew blue blood Oklahoma for the Armed Forces Bowl. Army fans are not happy.

I think Army is better, but Navy is good. Not having to play last week was definitely an advantage, although one I'm sure Army has happy to suffer. Big questions for Navy are how healthy is QB Blake Horvath -- backup Braxton Woodson looked great two weeks ago against ECU, but a healthy Horvath is on another level.

These games always seem to come down to who makes the big mistakes and who can make their field goals. Army's kicker is 8-9 but with a long of just 39. Navy's is just 4-7 (one blocked) but with a long of 46.

Go Navy Beat Army.

 

[canderson]

Army by 104. Go Army, beat Navy!

Joking aside - Army got royally screwed with the bowl.

 

[Awesome Fossum]

Probably belongs in a different thread, but Thomas Castellanos is transferring to FSU.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42922426/boston-college-transfer-qb-thomas-castellanos-commits-florida-state

 

[Awesome Fossum]

Not exactly a full house in Brookings. 10 am local kick, 26 degrees, feels like 10 degrees.

 

[BaseballJones]

I love all this pageantry. These are incredibly impressive young people.

 

[Awesome Fossum]

Are civilians supposed to be saluting during the national anthem?

 

[Awesome Fossum]

Yikes.

Marshall has withdrawn from playing Army in Independence Bowl because of number of players in transfer portal, sources said. The game is Dec 28. Because most players have left campus it may be tough to find a 5-7 team to replace Marshall. Bad look by Marshall & Sun Belt

https://bsky.app/profile/brettmcmurphy.bsky.social/post/3ldbzytuaok22

 

[Awesome Fossum]

I'm already sick of Gary Danielson.

 

[canderson]

Yikes.


https://bsky.app/profile/brettmcmurphy.bsky.social/post/3ldbzytuaok22

This sucks. Maybe Kentucky can take the place - would be a better game anyways.

 

[Awesome Fossum]

This sucks. Maybe Kentucky can take the place - would be a better game anyways.

5-7 Louisiana Tech stepping in. Sucks for ARMY!

 

[BigSoxFan]

Navy D dominating Army O. Didn’t expect this.

 

[Remagellan]

I was kind of hoping that Belichick wound up at Navy, but clearly, they do not need him.

 

[Remagellan]

I love all this pageantry. These are incredibly impressive young people.

I don't know how old you are, but if you're over 45, as someone who lives in Philly who over the past few years has run into cadets from both schools whenever the game is in town, the most striking thing is how young they are. They look like children dressed up for Halloween, which is not a knock, but a reminder of how young many of the people who defend our country are. God bless them all and keep them safe.

 

[BaseballJones]

I don't know how old you are, but if you're over 45, as someone who lives in Philly who over the past few years has run into cadets from both schools whenever the game is in town, the most striking thing is how young they are. They look like children dressed up for Halloween, which is not a knock, but a reminder of how young many of the people who defend our country are. God bless them all and keep them safe.

I'm 55. I work on a college campus and so I'm around athletes this age every day. But I don't work at one of the service academies, and they're a special bunch.

 

[Awesome Fossum]

Navy D dominating Army O. Didn’t expect this.

I mean, normally both Ds dominate both Os.

I was kind of hoping that Belichick wound up at Navy, but clearly, they do not need him.

They would have loved to have had him. Timing just didn't work out, assuming he even would have been interested. Maybe next time.

 

[JohnnyTheBone]

HORVATH!

 

[Awesome Fossum]

I feel like that's the first tackle Army's missed all day.

 

[Dim13]

Was the unsportsmanlike because he, like, spiked the ball after the TD?

 

[ernieshore]

I mean - you can’t spike the ball at all in college, right?

 

[SoxJox]

I think it was because they thought he spiked it at the feet of the Army player.

 

[SoxJox]

Which it wasn't.

 

[SoxJox]

On an editorial note regarding Navy coaches, I was very saddened by how Coach Niumatalolo's tenure ended. He brought a great deal of respect and professionalism to the position. Yeah, it ended after an OT loss in the A-N game. But gee.

 

[SoxJox]

Man, there have been so many 3rd and shorts for Army, where you just KNOW they're going for it if they don't make it.

 

[BigSoxFan]

JFC how do you miss that?

 

[Awesome Fossum]

Will someone please just hire Monken. Come on Purdue.

 

[SoxJox]

I love all this pageantry. These are incredibly impressive young people.

Today's selection criteria has become so competitive...perhaps even more so in ways beyond the Ivies. When my son didn't get picked up for an NROTC scholarship in 2014 - with truly impressive quals, it was clear to me that if I had applied then with the quality I had in 1973, I would have never gotten in. The current quality required for ROTC are the OLD standards for the Academies. The current standards for the Academies are elite. And they consider WAY more than grades or academics.

 

[BaseballJones]

Today's selection criteria has become so competitive...perhaps even more so in ways beyond the Ivies. When my son didn't get picked up for an NROTC scholarship in 2014 - with truly impressive quals, it was clear to me that if I had applied then with the quality I had in 1973, I would have never gotten in. The current quality required for ROTC are the OLD standards for the Academies. The current standards for the Academies are elite. And they consider WAY more than grades or academics.

Yep. Two kids from my oldest son's high school class attended the academies - one at Annapolis and the other West Point. Excellent young men.

And I've spent time at TOPGUN. Talk about impressive people.....

 

[SoxJox]

Will someone please just hire Monken. Come on Purdue.

I take it you have coin in the Boilermaker game?

 

[Awesome Fossum]

I take it you have coin in the Boilermaker game?

I'm just sick of Army being a high functioning program.

 

[SoxJox]

Yep. Two kids from my oldest son's high school class attended the academies - o 1ne at Annapolis and the other West Point. Excellent young men.

And I've spent time at TOPGUN. Talk about impressive people.....

I can't even imagine where I'd be now if I had not been awarded my NROTC scholarship. 1

 

[SoxJox]

Horvath has been impressive.

 

[SoxJox]

OMG

 

[SoxJox]

Rumbin', stumblin', bumblin'.

 

[Awesome Fossum]

What a call.

 

[Awesome Fossum]

Lot of betters praying for a goal line stand here. Over/under is 39.5.

 

[SoxJox]

Another Navy goal line scrum.

 

[SoxJox]

Wow.

 

[StupendousMan]

What is the college rule for a QB throwing the ball while "over the line of scrimmage"?

(That is -- must one foot be over the line to disqualify? Two feet? The ball leaving the hand?)

 

[SoxJox]

Beautiful

 

[SoxJox]

What is the college rule for a QB throwing the ball while "over the line of scrimmage"?

(That is -- must one foot be over the line to disqualify? Two feet? The ball leaving the hand?)

Its based on the position of the ball.

 

[StupendousMan]

Hmmm. A version of the NCAA rule book, available at https://www.ncaapublications.com/p-4693-2024-ncaa-football-rules-book.aspx
says

Illegal Forward Pass

ARTICLE 2 A forward pass is illegal if:
a It is thrown by a Team A player whose entire body is beyond the neutral
zone when the ball is released

 

[Ale Xander]

Army and Mercer not bringing it

 

[Awesome Fossum]

Beat Oklahoma

 

[Awesome Fossum]

Shouldn't we be showing these video packages in alphabetical order or something? Sort of making it obvious here.

 

[OCST]

Today's selection criteria has become so competitive...perhaps even more so in ways beyond the Ivies. When my son didn't get picked up for an NROTC scholarship in 2014 - with truly impressive quals, it was clear to me that if I had applied then with the quality I had in 1973, I would have never gotten in. The current quality required for ROTC are the OLD standards for the Academies. The current standards for the Academies are elite. And they consider WAY more than grades or academics.

Service academies are MUCH more selective than Ivies.