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If Terry shouldn't take those shots, the Celtics shouldn't be playing basketball.
Yes again.. lest we forget Terry has been a CLUTCH end-of-game shooter since KI went down. And do you think lerbon/cleve were going to NOT focus on Tatum (if he had gotten the ball). TR shooting in that moment was a solid option.

One proviso: was TR into a "choking" headset, in the Gladwell sense of "reverting to explicit learning"
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2000/08/21/the-art-of-failure

Possibly. but even so ... the options were not good.
 

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Seems a bit weird that they did it yesterday of all days.
Im not sure that even a pro basketball player can just keep a surgeon on standby for "whenever my team loses."
No one has any way of knowing, but the date was probably set some time ago.
 

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Im not sure that even a pro basketball player can just keep a surgeon on standby for "whenever my team loses."
No one has any way of knowing, but the date was probably set some time ago.
Yeah, these sorts of surgeries are usually scheduled 2-3 months in advance. I’m sure this was added to the schedule after his year was done when no one had any expectations of this team getting out of the second round.
 

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Seems a bit weird that they did it yesterday of all days.
Surprised they didn't do it when he was under for his knee tbh.
I have a deviated septum and I've had more people tell me that the surgery can do more harm than good and to just leave it too. But then I'm pretty far, far, far from a professional althete lol
 

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Surprised they didn't do it when he was under for his knee tbh.
I have a deviated septum and I've had more people tell me that the surgery can do more harm than good and to just leave it too. But then I'm pretty far, far, far from a professional althete lol
I had the surgery in January and it was life changing for me. I would recommend it.
 

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Seems a bit weird that they did it yesterday of all days.
I suspect certain Boston radio hacks will devote much of their time to this tomorrow. And I'm certain that if they do, emergency heart/lung transplant surgery will provide the only valid justification.
 

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Is this really a thing? Getting two separate, unrelated surgeries done at the same time? Sounds like a logistical nightmare
It's not good for you to be given general anesthesic and knocked out, it's a lot less bad to keep you out for an extra hour than do it all over again was all I thought.
 

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It's not good for you to be given general anesthesic and knocked out, it's a lot less bad to keep you out for an extra hour than do it all over again was all I thought.
You're right but it's probably difficult to coordinate schedules with 2 different surgeons who may not even practice at the same hospital.
 

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Too bad Kyrie's replacement didn't deviate from shooting three pointers in Game 7 of the ECF.

The Cavs committed their fourth team foul with 9:12 left in the fourth. Celtics trailed by one after making two FTs. They should have been using their young legs to drive the ball to the rim the rest on that game.
 

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You're right but it's probably difficult to coordinate schedules with 2 different surgeons who may not even practice at the same hospital.
It's true, though I wager Kyrie probably has more options for that than us mortals.
No big deal, I was just surprised he needed a second surgery for a minor thing so soon after. But you right.
 

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The deviated septum surgery was almost certainly done at Mass Eye & Ear (if it was done locally) and if it was the top sinus surgeon there, she books three months in advance (or at least that’s how it’s been for me, she got stuck with me as a patient because my sinus surgery three years ago was too bloody complicated for her colleagues, and my recent revision surgery to remove nasal polyps came with a similar waiting period).

The knee surgery would have been done elsewhere.
 
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The deviated septum surgery was almost certainly done at Mass Eye & Ear (if it as done locally) and if it was the top sinus surgeon there, she books three months in advance (or at least that’s how it’s been for me, she got stuck with me as a patient because my sinus surgery three years ago was too bloody complicated for her colleagues, and my recent revision surgery to remove nasal polyps came with a similar waiting period).

The knee surgery would have been done elsewhere.

Bro, you know I love your NBA takes, and I don’t even mind the anarchy stuff, but if you are stalking NBA players, I can’t support that.
 

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I wish that I’d run into Kyrie at Mass Eye & Ear, but I suspect that he doesn’t spend even a single second in the waiting room.
 

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I think if given a choice between having Kyrie miss sitting on the bench for Game 7, or dealing with a nagging nasal/sinus problem, one that may not be all that minor for him, into next season, most fans would choose the former. Questioning the timing of surgery for an inactive player is just looking for nits to pick.
 

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The deviated septum surgery was almost certainly done at Mass Eye & Ear (if it was done locally) and if it was the top sinus surgeon there, she books three months in advance (or at least that’s how it’s been for me, she got stuck with me as a patient because my sinus surgery three years ago was too bloody complicated for her colleagues, and my recent revision surgery to remove nasal polyps came with a similar waiting period).

The knee surgery would have been done elsewhere.
FWIW, Kyrie's agent said he couldn't fly after the surgery, which is why he couldn't make the game. I'd assume he had the surgery somewhere else.
 

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It's true, though I wager Kyrie probably has more options for that than us mortals.
If you mean, he has the resources to go anywhere to find a doc he likes, that's true. But once he has his eye on a particular surgeon, I dont think he gets to jump the line.
 

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If you mean, he has the resources to go anywhere to find a doc he likes, that's true. But once he has his eye on a particular surgeon, I dont think he gets to jump the line.
Seriously? OK.
This is so sweet.

This is entirely off topic but having lived in billionaire hedge fund world, at least peripherially, you are so wrong.
The advantages of the rich and influencing are waaaaaaaay more than you think.
 

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For me I could see it as simply being extremely frustrated he can’t play and not wanting to be there if the Cavs won because he really dislikes LeBron
 

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Seriously? OK.
This is so sweet.

This is entirely off topic but having lived in billionaire hedge fund world, at least peripherially, you are so wrong.
The advantages of the rich and influencing are waaaaaaaay more than you think.
Even in the great red north non scholarship athletes from the local universities jump the cue, and the CFL players go right to the front. All that happens is a doctor add an available slot, maybe move scheduled surgery a day or two.
 

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Yes again.. lest we forget Terry has been a CLUTCH end-of-game shooter since KI went down. And do you think lerbon/cleve were going to NOT focus on Tatum (if he had gotten the ball). TR shooting in that moment was a solid option.

One proviso: was TR into a "choking" headset, in the Gladwell sense of "reverting to explicit learning"
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2000/08/21/the-art-of-failure

Possibly. but even so ... the options were not good.

It just seemed so clear to me watching the game that Brown, Morris, and Rozier were nervous and letting the moment get to them, despite the fact that all three of them have made game-winning 3s during the season. You could see it it their shots and in their free-throws. In that situation, there was no way they were making those 3s. They would have been way better off channeling that kind of nervous energy into drives to the hoop. The only one who seemed to be clearly unafraid of the moment was Marcus Smart and maybe Tatum, but he wasn't doing anything in the last 2-3 minutes.
 

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I wish that I’d run into Kyrie at Mass Eye & Ear, but I suspect that he doesn’t spend even a single second in the waiting room.
totally unrelated but ran into Vlade Divac this morning in front of Starbucks (Montana Ave in Santa Monica), some buddy of his was giving him a hug and asking him when is it going to get better?
Vlade replied 'a few years'
I chimed in with 'more than a few' as I rode my bike off
 

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So for those who haven't seen this, here's the evidence that the Cs just missed shots: http://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/05/28/celtics-future-bright-but-still-blew-game-7-vs-lebron-james-cavaliers/

(1) On “Wide Open” 3-point attempts, which the NBA defines as shots where the closest defender is at least 6 feet away, the Boston Celtics shot 3-for-17. Regular season average = 38%; Playoffs they were hitting 42%.

(2) On 3-point attempts that were just “Open” as opposed to “Wide Open,” where the closest defender is between 4 and 6 feet away from the shooter, the Celtics went 2-for-18. (Regular season average = 38.2%, which was third-best in the entire league, and playoffs = 32.6%.) Brown was 1-for-5 on Open 3’s, while Rozier was 0-for-7.

Ick.
 

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It just seemed so clear to me watching the game that Brown, Morris, and Rozier were nervous and letting the moment get to them, despite the fact that all three of them have made game-winning 3s during the season. You could see it it their shots and in their free-throws. In that situation, there was no way they were making those 3s. They would have been way better off channeling that kind of nervous energy into drives to the hoop. The only one who seemed to be clearly unafraid of the moment was Marcus Smart and maybe Tatum, but he wasn't doing anything in the last 2-3 minutes.
That Tatum dunk and then that three right after seemed pretty unafraid. He just didn't get the ball enough.
 

joe dokes

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Seriously? OK.
This is so sweet.

This is entirely off topic but having lived in billionaire hedge fund world, at least peripherially, you are so wrong.
The advantages of the rich and influencing are waaaaaaaay more than you think.
If he could've snapped his fingers and gotten his nose fixed whenever he wanted, I guess that only leaves "kyrie's a piece of shit who abandoned his teammates."

Also sweet.
 

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If he could've snapped his fingers and gotten his nose fixed whenever he wanted, I guess that only leaves "kyrie's a piece of shit who abandoned his teammates."

Also sweet.
Yeah ok that's what I was going for. It was an idle thought in conversation it's really not important. I have no idea why it's still being discussed tbh.