Celtics in 18-19

HomeRunBaker

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nah, not my thought at all

Just anticipating the board's future moves... always a perilous game.
Wait til he's sitting on the bench in the 4th quarter. Place will blow up!

Wait til he's playing over Jaylen or Gordon in the 4th quarter.
Place will blow up!
 

Big John

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Nice move to shed the guaranteed portion of Nader's contract. And maybe Nader can earn a spot on the OKC bench. He seems like a nice kid.
 

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Nice move to shed the guaranteed portion of Nader's contract. And maybe Nader can earn a spot on the OKC bench. He seems like a nice kid.
He should be able to replace Melo’s missed shots at a bargain price. Great trade for OKC.
 

lovegtm

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Nice move to shed the guaranteed portion of Nader's contract. And maybe Nader can earn a spot on the OKC bench. He seems like a nice kid.
They'll likely waive him and take the tax savings, with the additional cash considerations to offset more of the tax.

What are the restrictions on cash considerations? I could see the Celtics doing some similar stuff to get off Yabu and sneak under the tax, which they obviously plan to do this year now.
 

HomeRunBaker

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They'll likely waive him and take the tax savings, with the additional cash considerations to offset more of the tax.

What are the restrictions on cash considerations? I could see the Celtics doing some similar stuff to get off Yabu and sneak under the tax, which they obviously plan to do this year now.
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q97


98. Can cash be included as part of a trade package?
Players can be traded for cash, and cash can be included in trade packages. The amount of cash a team can pay or receive per season is limited to the "Maximum Annual Cash Limit," which is $5.1 million in 2017-18, with the amount in each subsequent season determined by applying the percentage change in the salary cap to the previous amount. For example, if the salary cap increases by 4% from 2017-18 to 2018-19, then the Maximum Annual Cash Limit will increase by 4% from 2017-18 to 2018-19.

Season Amount
2017-18 $5.1 million
2018-19 $5.243 million
There are two separate limits, one for the cash a team pays as part of trades each season, and the other for the cash a team receives as part of trades each season. For example, in 2017-18 a team may pay up to an aggregate $5.1 million in all trades it makes during the season, and it may receive up to an aggregate $5.1 million in all trades it makes during the season.

The cash applies to the current season's limit even if it changes hands in a future season. For example, suppose a team trades a draft pick that is top-20 protected this season, top-10 protected next season, and converts to $1 million cash if a pick is not conveyed by next season. $1 million is applied to the team's Maximum Annual Cash Limit for the current season.

Cash is NOT considered when matching salaries under the Traded Player exception. For example, a taxpaying team cannot add $3 million cash to a trade of their $5 million player in order to acquire a $10 million player.

In a sign-and-trade arrangement, if the contract contains a signing bonus, then any amount of this bonus paid by the signing team counts toward the team's Maximum Annual Cash Limit (see question number 92).
 

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Celtics free agent guard Shane Larkin confirms to me that he is leaving the NBA to sign a $1.8M, one-year offer sheet with Anadolu Efes.
 

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Shams - Sources: The Celtics and 2017 second-rounder Jabari Bird are finalizing a multiyear deal. Bird spent his rookie season on a two-way contract, had a strong summer league.
 

nighthob

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That makes a lot of sense, he improved steadily all year long and shows potential as a 3&D guy.
 

lovegtm

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That makes a lot of sense, he improved steadily all year long and shows potential as a 3&D guy.
If he develops, he also gives the Celtics the metaphorical trade equivalent of Smart's contract: a nice young player, with room to develop, who's not already good enough to be almost untradeable, as is the case with Tatum and Brown.
 

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Unlike a lot of other players in his position, he seems to have a good feel for the game. I'm glad they're bringing him in, he's certainly an upgrade over Nader.
 

nighthob

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If he develops, he also gives the Celtics the metaphorical trade equivalent of Smart's contract: a nice young player, with room to develop, who's not already good enough to be almost untradeable, as is the case with Tatum and Brown.
They're going to have him in Portland working on becoming a more consistent shooter, while now having him available for the postseason in a worst case scenario (unlike last year). He's also easier to move at year's end if Boston ends up with the Sacramento and Memphis picks and needs to clear roster space. He'll also show well enough that Boston can probably pick up an asset if they have to trade him.
 

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He didn't shoot well from 3 last year in Maine, so that will be something to work on. I'm glad they signed him though, I think if the shooting comes around he has real value.
Yes, he shot them at a .360-.370 rate in college, but was always a streaky shooter. In order to hit his upside as 3&D roleplayer he needs to be able to do that as a pro. You don't ask bench depth guys to shoot like Jayson Tatum, just that they be better than Marcus Smart.
 

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And Rick Pitino isn't. Double win!
Thought experiment: imagine winning that lottery and getting Duncan...and then being saddled with that piece of shit Pitino taking credit for everything for years maybe forever. Not sure I can choose what part of pitino is most loathsome.

Back to the thread...
 

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Pre-season schedule is here. Only 4 games just like last year. Pre-season schedules used to be 8 games.
https://www.nba.com/celtics/news/2018-preseason-schedule

Sept. 28 at Charlotte 7:30 p.m. Dean Smith Center NBC Sports Boston / 98.5 The Sports Hub
Sept. 30 vs. Charlotte 6:00 p.m. TD Garden NBC Sports Boston / 98.5 The Sports Hub
Oct. 2 vs. Cleveland 7:30 p.m TD Garden NBC Sports Boston / 98.5 The Sports Hub
Oct. 6 at Cleveland 7:30 p.m Quicken Loans Arena NBC Sports Boston / 98.5 The Sports Hub
 

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Pre-season schedule is here. Only 4 games just like last year. Pre-season schedules used to be 8 games.
https://www.nba.com/celtics/news/2018-preseason-schedule

Sept. 28 at Charlotte 7:30 p.m. Dean Smith Center NBC Sports Boston / 98.5 The Sports Hub
Sept. 30 vs. Charlotte 6:00 p.m. TD Garden NBC Sports Boston / 98.5 The Sports Hub
Oct. 2 vs. Cleveland 7:30 p.m TD Garden NBC Sports Boston / 98.5 The Sports Hub
Oct. 6 at Cleveland 7:30 p.m Quicken Loans Arena NBC Sports Boston / 98.5 The Sports Hub
I love that they're playing in the Dean Dome!
 

nighthob

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Speaking of which, if Boston drafts Barrett, Reddish, or Williamson next June and Kyrie re-signs, will he be Boston's Earl of Duke?
 

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I'll take the over as well, and the under on Toronto. The Raptors' bench performance last year was an outlier.
 

nighthob

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Pelton projects Cs at 53 wins. https://www.celticsblog.com/2018/8/3/17649184/espn-projects-boston-celtics-to-finish-second-in-the-eastern-conference-2019-season-projections-espn. I'll take the over.

TOR is projected at 55 wins.

Article notes that "the projection for Boston is influenced by last year’s point differential being closer to that of a 51-win team" and that "projections for Gordon Hayward and Al Horford are conservative in his models."

I'll still take the over.
Apparently he’s expecting Boston to lose another 100+ games to injury for Irving and Hayward. I just love the fact that he’s projecting the Jazz past Boston.
 

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Pelton would project with a straight face that 30% of the time the sun won’t rise tomorrow.
 

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Reeks of Nate Duncan predicting “50 wins tops” for last years team post Kyrie and Hayward acquisitions.

59.5 is my O/U. How many years of Brad outcoaching the Pythag do we need before we just acknowledge he earns them a few wins per season.
 

Big John

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These are the most recent over-under numbers from Westgate Las Vegas Superbook.

Atl 23.5
Bos 57.5
Brk 32.5
Cha 35.5
Chi 27.5
Cle 30.5
Dal 34.5
Den 47.5
Det 37.5
GS 62.5
Hou 54.5
Ind 47.5
LAC 35.5
LAL 48.5
Mem 34.5
Mia 41.5
Mil 46.5
Min 44.5
NO 45.5
NY 29.5
OKC 50.5
Orl 31.5
Phi 54.5
Phx 28.5
Prt 41.5
Sac 25.5
SA 43.5
Tor 54.5
Uth 48.5
Wsh 44.5
 

lovegtm

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Pelton would project with a straight face that 30% of the time the sun won’t rise tomorrow.
As late as the playoffs last year he was still seriously considering whether Ball was better than Tatum. Some of these national guys get really attached to various idées fixes, and then take forever to update.
 

DJnVa

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Pelton projects Cs at 53 wins. https://www.celticsblog.com/2018/8/3/17649184/espn-projects-boston-celtics-to-finish-second-in-the-eastern-conference-2019-season-projections-espn. I'll take the over.

TOR is projected at 55 wins.

Article notes that "the projection for Boston is influenced by last year’s point differential being closer to that of a 51-win team" and that "projections for Gordon Hayward and Al Horford are conservative in his models."

I'll still take the over.
I mean, okay, conservative for Horford, fine. But Hayward is pretty much a lock to give more than he did last season.
 

DJnVa

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Denver has gone over their Vegas total in something like 10 of 12 seasons.