Knock on wood, if the ping-pong balls fall our way and the draft is strong, its entirely possible this trade reaches Herschel Walker proportions.
I had never seen that website. Very helpful in visualizing how the draft order will play out. The Celtics and Sixers are going to own the 2016 draft, particularly if Philly gets the Lakers' top 3 protected pick.It will be nice to check out Tankathon on a regular basis without it also coinciding with the Celtics being miserably bad.
That chart is nice we only have to figure out how to get the 76ers to win a game this year.I had never seen that website. Very helpful in visualizing how the draft order will play out. The Celtics and Sixers are going to own the 2016 draft, particularly if Philly gets the Lakers' top 3 protected pick.
Patience, young HRB. There's no KATman next year, but there are going to be as many all stars overall.That chart is nice we only have to figure out how to get the 76ers to win a game this year.
This draft is shaping up to be the perfect storm for us I only wish last years class was this summers. Yes I'm greedy.
One thing I am with us is patient. Following the trade I began the mental preparation to not compete in the playoffs until 2018 or 2019. No I don't count backing into a 7-8 seed with 40 wins after everyone laid down for us competing in the playoffs. I mean legit this team can win a round or two. I have patience.Patience, young HRB. There's no KATman next year, but there are going to be as many all stars overall.
Jamal Murray, I think he's a better version of D'Angelo Russell. Jaylen Brown worries me, he has a ten dollar body, but has a tendency to combine it with a ten cent head. He could be the 6'7" Tony Allen (which is still a pretty good playeer) or he could be a pretty good two way player. Brandon Ingram is going to Duke, he reminds me a little of Otto Porter. Cheick Diallo looks like he'll be a pretty good PF at the next level. I still love Kris Dunn. Diamond Stone is another guy to keep an eye on.Who should we be following outside of Simmons and Skal?
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Bender might be the skinniest NBA prospect I've ever seen. I know he'll add weight and all that but that looks like a kid who's light years away from being an NBA impact player.If you want to try and dig up some Maccabi Tel Aviv stream, Dragan Bender is probably going top 5. Sadly he wasn't at the U19s because he has been with Addidas since 2013, but Nike signed a deal with Croatia and they wouldn't let him play.
He's only about 10 or so pounds lighter than Porzingis was and he's still 17, he apparently gained 15 pounds between 16 and 17 so he could be the same weight as Porzingis by the draft.Bender might be the skinniest NBA prospect I've ever seen. I know he'll add weight and all that but that looks like a kid who's light years away from being an NBA impact player.
He's not even the skinniest 7 foot prospect named Bender I've ever seen.Bender might be the skinniest NBA prospect I've ever seen. I know he'll add weight and all that but that looks like a kid who's light years away from being an NBA impact player.
I honestly thought that's who was being discussed.He's not even the skinniest 7 foot prospect named Bender I've ever seen.
Philly plays Brooklyn 4 times this season. Gotta hope the Sixers take 3 of those matchesThat chart is nice we only have to figure out how to get the 76ers to win a game this year.
This draft is shaping up to be the perfect storm for us I only wish last years class was this summers. Yes I'm greedy.
The insane thing about the Sixers is on top of that they get the draft pick swap right to the Kings, who also suck. Essentially adding lottery balls to their own pick. PLUS Embiid and Saric could be there next year (who are arguably - though I doubt controversial- top 5 talent type picks this year).I had never seen that website. Very helpful in visualizing how the draft order will play out. The Celtics and Sixers are going to own the 2016 draft, particularly if Philly gets the Lakers' top 3 protected pick.
Would Embiid really be a top 5 pick? Hasn't played in two years, major questions about his dedication (not to mention his durability), and with two years done on his rookie contract you're not going to have all that much time before you decide to commit major dollars to him long term. 20th pick, OK, but 5th?The insane thing about the Sixers is on top of that they get the draft pick swap right to the Kings, who also suck. Essentially adding lottery balls to their own pick. PLUS Embiid and Saric could be there next year (who are arguably - though I doubt controversial- top 5 talent type picks this year).
I mean they could add in theory 1/4/ 15/16 and Saric and Embiid - that is potentially a big a talent infusion as any team ever in a year.
Of course they could also end up 5/25/30 lakers pick rolls over and Embiid gets hurt and Saric stays overseas. So there's a .... RANGE
But yeah Sixers and Celtics are going to be running the draft.
But Billy King said despite the rocky start, and despite the fact the team won’t benefit from a disastrous regular season like their rivals across the East River did last year, he won’t be making any short-sighted, panic moves. The Nets general manager said he won’t try to salvage a respectable finish at the expense of the team’s projected $40 million or so in cap space and the young players it does have.
You guys can still stomach the idea of another draft lottery? I'm hoping these picks are dealt before the lottery takes place.
Well i think we are a long way from knowing too much. KAT was just another lottery pick a year ago. So depends how it plays out. But assuming there are a couple of potential stars and everyone else has question marks yes I think so.Would Embiid really be a top 5 pick? Hasn't played in two years, major questions about his dedication (not to mention his durability), and with two years done on his rookie contract you're not going to have all that much time before you decide to commit major dollars to him long term. 20th pick, OK, but 5th?
Put another way, how would you feel if the Cs traded the Brooklyn pick for him?
Yes I think most teams would strongly consider him in the top 5.
Would I trade him for the Nets 16 ? Hmmm. Probably.
I think that's crazy. You're taking a guy who is MAYBE a top 5 talent, but has significant injury history, that alone makes it a questionable decision. Having him for two fewer years on the artificially low rookie scale makes it a terrible decision unless he was a can't miss stud.Well i think we are a long way from knowing too much. KAT was just another lottery pick a year ago. So depends how it plays out. But assuming there are a couple of potential stars and everyone else has question marks yes I think so.
Embiid has not been perfect but read any draft expert on talent alone embiid is as good if not better than anyone. Obviously there is a huge risk to him. The medical review is huge.
But. Yes I think most teams would strongly consider him in the top 5. I think he probably is untradable as the sixers view him as potentially their super star stud but everyone else will be wary and the sixers moving him itself would be a red flag. They know him best after all.
Would I trade him for the Nets 16 ? Hmmm. Probably. Because it's likely to be extremely high and of course they have two centres already.
But say hypothetically if the sixers ended with Russell not okafor then no probably not.
It's hard to argue that embiid isn't a risk. But he's also the best upside. I think from what I've read the draft guys say on talent he would have been a rival for KAT last year at 1 and same this year. but we haven't seen the next year at all yet so shrug
It's top 7 protected every year until 2021 so regardless of how future drafts are projected I think you root for them to get the pick as soon as possible, especially with Dallas looking like they could fall into that 8-12 sweet spot this season.Sorry to be that guy, but a quick google didn't give me details I wanted.
What is the deal with the Mavs pick? I know it is top 7 protected, and barring lucky ping pong balls the Mavs aren't likely to be in the top 7 but I'm still curious what Celtics fans should be rooting for there. Like, would you rather have pick 8 in this year's draft or the chance for a better pick in 2017?
Mavs pick is top 7 protected and keeps rolling over through 2020 always protected top 7, until unprotected in 2021. That's a good organization that can improve in a hurry, I think rooting for a pick in the 8-12 range this year while they're in a downturn is the right move.Sorry to be that guy, but a quick google didn't give me details I wanted.
What is the deal with the Mavs pick? I know it is top 7 protected, and barring lucky ping pong balls the Mavs aren't likely to be in the top 7 but I'm still curious what Celtics fans should be rooting for there. Like, would you rather have pick 8 in this year's draft or the chance for a better pick in 2017?
Boston gets the first non-top 7 pick out of Dallas. As every year added to that equation equals more talent for the Mavs you want the pick this year when it's later lottery pick. If you get Jae Crowder and Kris Dunn for Rondo you've hit the jackpot.Sorry to be that guy, but a quick google didn't give me details I wanted.
What is the deal with the Mavs pick? I know it is top 7 protected, and barring lucky ping pong balls the Mavs aren't likely to be in the top 7 but I'm still curious what Celtics fans should be rooting for there. Like, would you rather have pick 8 in this year's draft or the chance for a better pick in 2017?
Yes indeed, for the first time in a long time, the Timberwolves are looking like a team to be reckoned with. Wiggins, Towns and Rubio are a lot of complementary talent on the same floor at the same time. Minnesota may be a playoff team.And, maybe, that Minnesota midround pick, via Brandan Wright. Pretty nice haul for Rajon.
Rubio's got plenty of shooters to pass to as well. Martin, Bjelica, Prince and Muhammad are all above-average at shooting the 3 ball.Yes indeed, for the first time in a long time, the Timberwolves are looking like a team to be reckoned with. Wiggins, Towns and Rubio are a lot of complementary talent on the same floor at the same time. Minnesota may be a playoff team.
Well no his talent is CLEARLY top 5, and realistically top 2/3 (given we haven't seen the others play- today probably number 1)I think that's crazy. You're taking a guy who is MAYBE a top 5 talent, but has significant injury history, that alone makes it a questionable decision. Having him for two fewer years on the artificially low rookie scale makes it a terrible decision unless he was a can't miss stud.
Mid 1st. He's two years older than most prospects has less time under contract and has never played in the NBA. Of course that's still a hypo since his long injury history means you have to discount him even if the foot is healed. He played well for a year in college, but so have lots of busts, and losing 2 years of development is a big deal.Well no his talent is CLEARLY top 5, and realistically top 2/3 (given we haven't seen the others play- today probably number 1)
The injury drops him to maybe top 5. And it depends on who else is there. If there is another slightly lower talent but no issues, clearly you'd rather have that.
As I say trading him is tricky because if the Sixers want to move on, that's a huge red flag. But if he was in the draft as a rookie, healthy he'd be 1 today. With the injury he was third in a arguably more highly touted draft (it's early of course). If in the draft he's got a clean bill of health why would you not expect him to be a top 3 pick? But I totally get the other side. Everyone I most like as judges of talent drools over him.
Let me ask this, hypothetically, he has 100% certain foot health what would you trade for him then?
I think that's why Philly who invested the pick won't trade him.Fair enough, it's an agree to disagree thing. Personally I think finding legitimate game changing superstars to build around is hard.
It's almost impossible in the middle of the first round.
Just thinking about what Philly paid for eg Bynum. It's about what your goal is. The Sixers much like the Celtics need a star. The celtics have a lot of solid players (unlike the Sixers) but lack that core piece. Adding another good player likely doesn't move the dial a whole lot. The Sixers are trying to find their star, they'd rather miss entirely for the chance of that star than accept 90% good with tiny chance of star or bust. Until now missing actually just meant you sucked so hard you got another shot.
You'd think he'd be at risk for knuckle injuries with a wingspan like that.He's a legit 7' with a huge wingspan (9'3" just longer than Aldridge and KD)