Sorry, didn’t put link. It’s Williams when he arrived at Tennessee and when he left.
Celtics 2019-2020 depth chart and roster
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So potentially replacing kyrie/Baynes/Rozier/Morris (maybe) with kemba/MLE/draft picks? Add in another year of recovery for Hayward, better team chemistry and we have some nice potential for improvement. The MLE on a big will determine how much.
I’m also more bullish on Hayward for next year than most.
I’m also more bullish on Hayward for next year than most.
no thanks on Enes Kanter, Boban, Monroe, Robin Lopez, Koufos
but we do need a Center and I'd like him to be good on defense
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we'll see what we have in Williams, keeping an open mind...he can't be any worse than MaMo at the 5, which Brad tried numerous times this season
Just happy to see MaMo go start elsewhere and sign his massive 4yr deal, like so many have predicted
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Agree completely on your goal and also on your "pass" players. I'd have O'Quinn on the no thanks list also, but that's just based on the games that I've seen him play. Suppose the numbers may tell a different story, but never thought enough of him to look.
So with Al officially gone, who is out there for Danny to pick up as our starting 5? I know it might depend on what happens with the S&T stuff, but it seems like the remaining options are pretty depressing. I just really hope it isn't Kanter.
Y’know who I’m bullish on? Jayson and Jaylen. The kid gloves are off and I expect to see them both playing aggressively on offense on day 1 next season. Playing off a healthy Hayward and Kemba is going to open a lot of opportunities for both of them. As I think about it, that unit would look great with Al at the 5. That’s clearly not going to happen but I’d be Ok with Theis playing 12-18 minutes per game with that group.
Most of the same people mentioned earlier, Poirier, Lopez, Davis, etc. Or a trade.
I'm not sure if he's a feasible get but Derrick Favors is out there now. He'd definitely be my #1 FA option at C. Danny has to get someone because there's no chance Timelord or Theis are starting at center in October.
Having a hole at the 5 isn’t great obviously, but in terms of attracting whoever may be left out there, being able to offer a clear starting role is not nothing, especially for anyone looking to reestablish value for a next contract.
I'll eat my hat if Danny goes after Cousins. Not only is he damaged goods the last thing this team needs is another locker room problem.
He went after him last year and almost got him. The upside is way more than any of the other guys available.
I can't see Boogie, he can get more from GS (or other places) and we don't look like a landing spot for a ring chaser
Can’t see Boogie being realistic. The Celtics aren’t a title contender and not a team he is going to put up gaudy numbers in Brad’s system. From the Celtics perspective, he is taking a significant number of touches away from Hayward, Brown and Tatum.
nope, probably won't for a while. GS has to figure out what is going on with Durant, Klay and Boogie first
What would be a better landing spot for Boogie? If he wants to be a starter on a team with talented players that can advance in the playoffs, not much choice there.
I think adding a real center makes them absolutely a threat to get out of the east By definition, that can make them a title contender?
I don’t remember him being a locker room problem. I remember him having a problem with ownership and officials. Am I splitting hairs too thin on that? He loved Mike Malone and was pissed when Sacto fired him.
I might be misremembering, but didn’t Cousins say last year it was down to GS and Boston for him?
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According to a league source, the Celtics never made an offer for DeMarcus Cousins. They’d heard he might have interest in Boston, and by the time they started to look into it, he was a Warrior.
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Does the Boogie talk assume he’ll take the room MLE, or is there another option (sign and trade?) that gets him paid more?
Boogie isn’t coming for the room exception though. He won’t sign a multi year deal. I don’t think it’s worth draft picks to get him for one year to get blown out in the second round again.
I think the best fit at center for this team is a guy who can play decent defense and clean up inside. Boogie would need the ball too much and isn’t a good defender. Kanter is fantastic inside on offense but as noted would struggle defending a chair. Favors is my #1 choice if they can get him.
Getting Walker is a good thing, but by itself (and that looks like where the chips have fallen) it only makes the Celts a middle of the road team---basically they are a 45ish win team who needs internal improvement to be interesting. That's a lot less optimisitc situation than they've had the last couple of years, and that sucks...especially given how the AD saga ended and where the Lakers are heading.
But, on the more optimistic side, it is not like the Celtics have a 45ish win team with no upside. They have three guys who might provide that internal improvement (Tatum, Brown, Hayward) and all have all-NBA capability. They also have other players who still may have some development left though likely are not stars (Smart, buliding on last year's improved shooting, TL) Then, they have three interesting picks---and if even one of them is a good rotation player that helps too. If one really pans out, that's big. And they have a couple extra 1s, including the likely-to-be-valuable Memphis pick.
They have a gaping need for size, and unclear if they fill that with a boring vet or if they gamble on upside...but either way, odds are they are playing someone fairly weak there for a bunch of minutes a game. And it's a lot less of a fully formed picture than we had hoped. But it should be a fun team to watch, just not yet a legit contender.
But, on the more optimistic side, it is not like the Celtics have a 45ish win team with no upside. They have three guys who might provide that internal improvement (Tatum, Brown, Hayward) and all have all-NBA capability. They also have other players who still may have some development left though likely are not stars (Smart, buliding on last year's improved shooting, TL) Then, they have three interesting picks---and if even one of them is a good rotation player that helps too. If one really pans out, that's big. And they have a couple extra 1s, including the likely-to-be-valuable Memphis pick.
They have a gaping need for size, and unclear if they fill that with a boring vet or if they gamble on upside...but either way, odds are they are playing someone fairly weak there for a bunch of minutes a game. And it's a lot less of a fully formed picture than we had hoped. But it should be a fun team to watch, just not yet a legit contender.
slim pickings at the 5
I guess I'm interested in Looney, Kleber, Diallo, Birch
Does anyone know what happened to Kyle O'Quinn with the Pacers this year? injuries? weight?
my Sabonis/Turner pipe dream cures all, but is slowly fading away
I guess I'm interested in Looney, Kleber, Diallo, Birch
Does anyone know what happened to Kyle O'Quinn with the Pacers this year? injuries? weight?
my Sabonis/Turner pipe dream cures all, but is slowly fading away
Is there anyone even left with money for whom this would make any sense? Clippers just to get someone?
Lowe said he's signing in NO
Edit- looking like it will actually be a trade into cap space. so he gets his 17M for this year
I just want them to go with an upside big over a serviceable big at this point. That seems like Noel and Vonleh, and I think I’m forgetting someone else, but I don’t know if any of them are realistic options for the money.