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rodderick said:
But Tim McVay didn't coach in the NFL, Sean didn't coach under his grandfather and Kyle Shanahan didn't coach under his dad and tried to establish himself elsewhere precisely for this reason. Nepotism is rampant in the NFL, but even in the field it's rare to see a son be co-DC under his father.

Now, I'm a huge Steve Belichick fan and think the defense became much better when he gained more responsibilities and love everything I've heard from and about the guy, so it's not like it hurt the Patriots. It's just unusual even in the NFL context.
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Kyle was an offensive coordinator under his dad when Kyle was about 30. But yes, agreed that the Pats situation is unusual.
 
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What a stacked coaching room in 2016:

Head coach: Bill Belichick
Offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach: Josh McDaniels
Assistant quarterbacks coach: Jerry Schuplinski
Running backs coach: Ivan Fears
Wide receivers coach: Chad O'Shea
Tight ends coach: Brian Daboll
Offensive line coach: Dante Scarnecchia
Defensive coordinator: Matt Patricia
Defensive line coach: Brendan Daly
Linebackers coach: Brian Flores
Cornerbacks coach: Josh Boyer
Safeties coach: Steve Belichick
Special teams coach: Joe Judge
Assistant special teams coach: Ray Ventrone
Head strength and conditioning coach: Moses Cabrera
Assistant strength and conditioning coach: James Hardy
 
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Ralphwiggum said:
I agree this was the point of McCourtey's story. But, this can be true and you can also be put off by BB elevating his son to a position he was admittedly not ready for. Nepotism sucks, whether it ultimately works out or not.
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Seems like Steve B was indeed ready for it.
 
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...to say nothing of the stacked QB room. Brady, Garoppolo, Brissett. Our third QB back then, now has 48 starts and 76 games played in the NFL, 7 years later.
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And they actually needed all three of those guys that year, thanks to the BS Deflategate suspension.

That team was an absolute wagon and one of the most underrated teams ever.

#3 offense (points)
#1 defense (points)
#1 point differential (by a whopping 57 points, 3.6 per game!)

Avg margin of victory: +11.9 per game

They only lost two games all season:

- 16-0 vs. Buffalo when the Pats were playing with Brissett at QB, who had a broken thumb in his throwing hand
- 31-24 vs. Seattle when the Pats had 1st and goal at Seattle 2 yard line at the end of the game and somehow couldn't punch it in

Other than that...perfection, including two dominant playoff wins in the AFC (34-16 over Hou and then 36-17 over Pit), and the greatest comeback in SB history in the Super Bowl against league MVP Matt Ryan.
 
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BaseballJones said:
And they actually needed all three of those guys that year, thanks to the BS Deflategate suspension.

That team was an absolute wagon and one of the most underrated teams ever.

#3 offense (points)
#1 defense (points)
#1 point differential (by a whopping 57 points, 3.6 per game!)

Avg margin of victory: +11.9 per game

They only lost two games all season:

- 16-0 vs. Buffalo when the Pats were playing with Brissett at QB, who had a broken thumb in his throwing hand
- 31-24 vs. Seattle when the Pats had 1st and goal at Seattle 2 yard line at the end of the game and somehow couldn't punch it in

Other than that...perfection, including two dominant playoff wins in the AFC (34-16 over Hou and then 36-17 over Pit), and the greatest comeback in SB history in the Super Bowl against league MVP Matt Ryan.
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And they had only like 6 games of Gronk that year. In the 5 games where Gronk played with Brady in 2016, he had 24/529/3
 
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BaseballJones said:
I don't think BB puts Steve in that position if there wasn't already in place a group of seasoned, smart, veterans like McCourty, Chung, and Harmon.
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That's kind of how I read this, too. "He's green but that group can almost coach itself -- and he will learn a ton from them." Seems like it kind of worked out that way.
 
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DJnVa said:
I think people are taking Steve's comments a little too literal.
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You mean we shouldn't take as literal truth self deprecating comments made by the boss's kid on the first day of the job to a group of highly skilled professionals who were his age or older?
 
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Shelterdog said:
You mean we shouldn't take as literal truth self deprecating comments made by the boss's kid on the first day of the job to a group of highly skilled professionals who were his age or older?
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This strikes me as too logical. Please reconsider.
 
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He was a defensive assistant for 3 years and then was given an assistant coaching job with a veteran group of players. There's no exact career route in coaching, but this isn't all that abnormal.

Brian Flores was a special teams/defensive assistant with the Pats for 3 years before being promoted to safeties coach (sound familar?)

McVay was an offensive assistant for 3 years before becoming a tightend coach.

Anthony Lynn spent two years as a special teams assistant before being made running backs coach.

Hell, BB himself was a special assistant to the HC and then special teams assistant coach for 2 seasons before getting promoted to WR coach (worked for him, it's probably why he has people follow the same path).

Steve Belichick had a pretty standard route to his role at safeties coach, and he made an offhand joke to loosen things up at the start of the season.

Oh yeah, and did a really good job in the role he earned. Did he get a spot with the Pats because of his dad? Yes. Did he work/earn his way up the coaching ladder? Yes. Do I care that a guy who gave us 6 SBs helped his son get his foot in the coaching door? Not even a little.
 
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I wasn’t quite sure where to put this. Lots of comments and discussion online about how many players who were selected in the first round of the 2020 draft have not had their fifth year option picked up.


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-fifth-year-option-deadline-takeaways-commanders-declining-chase-youngs-option-among-notable-moves/amp/

that was the year the Patriots traded out of the first altogether.
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So of the 10 picks in the 1st round at or after the Patriots original pick..... one had his option picked up, one agreed to an extension for less than the option (though could earn slightly more if he hits a ton of incentives) one is dead, and another out of the league, then 6 had their options declined
 
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