Carry on my Hayward Son: Gordon to Charlotte for 4 years, $120M

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Funny thing is, Kevin Durant did basically exactly what some in this thread are advocating for (taking less money and declining the chance to be a clear-cut alpha dog to play on more of a contender with a number of other great players), and he was raked across the coals for that (and "Decision"-era LeBron before him). Athletes, particularly those that command high salaries, are always going to get criticized no matter what decision they make.
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Why do people keep calling Boston a “good situation” for two Midwesterners raising a young family? Culture shock is rarely a good thing when you may not be comfortable with the lifestyle change.
Honestly if I had kids there's no way I'd still be n Boston. And I'm a bloody native.
 

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Is it really that difficult for deca-millionaires to raise children in Weston or Brookline?
I'm guessing that as laid back midwesterners it's probable that they really don't want their kids growing up in an environment where they're taught that their choice of breakfast cereals is a political act.
 

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The guy was basically snakebitten with injuries while he was here, and his status on the team went from lead wing and shiny all star to 3rd wing and cautionary tale. Sometimes people just need a fresh start. It's early but both parties seem to be doing well on their own. Maybe Hayward regrets going to a team without a clear title shot at some point, but he can console himself with his tens of millions of extra dollars. Maybe the Celtics regret not having a jack of all trades big wing with experience late in the playoffs, but it's not like they had a healthy or effective Hayward during the playoffs when he was on the roster anyway.

Sometimes things just don't work out. There doesn't need to be judgement or guilty parties, it just is what it is.
 

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Maybe Gordo wants to lift up the Charolette market? Build it into something akin to the center of theNBA world that OKC had? Maybe he wants to be the guy to wash the bad executive stink off of MJ?
If he can get them out of the first round they'll be above anything OKC has done recently.
 

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I'm guessing that as laid back midwesterners it's probable that they really don't want their kids growing up in an environment where they're taught that their choice of breakfast cereals is a political act.
So I guess they won' t be enjoying that delicious Chick-Fil-A breakfast biscuit.
 

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Exactly. I don’t remember this much analysis of Gordon’s decision when he left a better team in Utah to come to Boston in the first place. It’s a fool’s errand to try to figure out what drives these decisions when we know so little about them personally or what their motivations are.
Maybe because the Celtics were much closer to a title than Utah was at that point.
 

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So I guess they won' t be enjoying that delicious Chick-Fil-A breakfast biscuit.
In Charlotte? No one would care. In Boston? Some beefhead would snap a photo with their $999 iPhone, post it on Twitter with calls for their heads. People in this area are insane, and the Hayward kids wouldn't get a lot of privacy.
 

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I'm guessing that as laid back midwesterners it's probable that they really don't want their kids growing up in an environment where they're taught that their choice of breakfast cereals is a political act.
Wow, $180MM doesn't get you many places to raise your kids these days. Or friends apparently.
 

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I mean large swaths of the country are laid back. The northeast isn't one of them.
 

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Pretty confident that kids, grand kids, kids' grandkids, grandkids' grandkids, grandparents, dogs, cats, birds, and everyone else is already taken care of.

P.S. Lots of people decline raises to work in unknown situations to stay in good situations. There are a few threads of the sort in the TBLTS every year.
Yeah I did that in May. 8% raise plus 10% bonus boost, but pandemic.

Wasn't millions of dollars difference though.

Edit: reading that back, and it looks like a humblebrag. I just decided that the extra 8% pay and possible bonus wasn't worth leaving my employer's hyper-covid-conservative embrace. We're still full WFH. People aren't always motivated fully by money. A 50% raise, and it may have been a different call though.
 
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So I guess they won' t be enjoying that delicious Chick-Fil-A breakfast biscuit.
It’s just not like that in the south. The Rock was working out in our gym back when I lived there and he wasn’t looked at any differently than the next guy. It’s just different than say a Boston.
 

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It’s just not like that in the south. The Rock was working out in our gym back when I lived there and he wasn’t looked at any differently than the next guy. It’s just different than say a Boston.
I know it's not. I am in the south. It was tongue in cheek.

Of course, some of us in the south are still judged for eating that sweet, sweet Chick-Fil-A.
 

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I know it's not. I am in the south. It was tongue in cheek.

Of course, some of us in the south are still judged for eating that sweet, sweet Chick-Fil-A.
Not by me! I love Chick-Fil-A and was ecstatic when they moved to the northeast.
 

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I know it's not. I am in the south. It was tongue in cheek.

Of course, some of us in the south are still judged for eating that sweet, sweet Chick-Fil-A.
That’s what I get for not reading who the author of the post was at 2am lol.
 

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In Charlotte? No one would care. In Boston? Some beefhead would snap a photo with their $999 iPhone, post it on Twitter with calls for their heads. People in this area are insane, and the Hayward kids wouldn't get a lot of privacy.
+1

I don’t think people get how much of a fishbowl that certain markets are. Privacy not only varies from market to market but also sport to sport.

There is no way that I'd want to play for the Red Sox, Patriots, or Celtics if I had kids. You literally can’t go anywhere without people recognizing you, photographing you and your family. Every move you make is all over talk radio. It sucks. And I’m a local as well.

It’s the same way with NHL players in Canadian markets. IMO a big reason why no Canadian team has won a cup since the lockout. If given the option, and the money was basically the same, where would you rather live? Montreal where it’s insane for your family, or Tampa where no one really cares?

IMO it’s the reason why Betts didn’t want to sign a contract here unless it was for money that he couldn’t refuse.
 

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I watched most of the Hornets-Raptors game. Down two with 29 seconds left, Hayward shied away from the possession, which wasn’t successful and resulted in the loss.

Hayward looked like he did when healthy in Boston: efficient offense for himself, along with smartly setting up others. However, on that young Charlotte team, he needs to be the man in crunch time, by initiating and scoring, or dishing to capable shooters like Rozier, and he didn’t do that last night.