Carmelo traded to OKC

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Does the Anthony thing really move the needle much either way? Always seemed like a massively overrated one dimensional player to me. I also can't see Westbrook leaving the super max on the table. It is an absurd amount of money. In the scenario George and Anthony are gone after this year, the Thunder still wouldn't really have that much room to sign anyone. They'd be about 15 mil under the cap. That Steven Adams contract is brutal, even if he is a good player.

Re the Clipper and Blake Griffin, I think he could have a huge year if he stays healthy, but that it won't necessarily reflect in the win/loss column. As I've pointed out before, he just started to randomly jack up 3s last season. In his first 26 games before being injured, he had 22 three point attempts. He returned from injury on January 28th, and only shot 2 3s in his first 5 games back. At that point, he was 5-24, .208% thru 31 games. In the next 30 games, he went 33-89, .371% from 3. He was 4-6 in his 3 playoff games. I know people add the 3 point shot to their games but I've never seen a player do it mid season. It does somewhat coincide with his return from injury. This was a guy who's previous high in 3 point attempts was 44 in 80 games. He took 2 more 3's in the last 30 games than he did the previous 3 seasons combined.

He's also an incredibly gifted passer and with Chris Paul gone, I could easily see his assists totals jumping to 8 or 9 a game. He could be close to averaging a triple double, but you'd have to assume his rebounding numbers will continue to decline as his game moves further away from the basket and with DeAndre Jordan camped under the rim. He's kind of an elite version of Al Horford on offense. He's had assists rates over 24% the last 3 years, this was Horford's first year over 19% (24.4, huge jump).
 

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I moved posts on the OKC-NYK trade and implications to this thread from the NBA offseason megathread.

Knicks receive Enes Kanter, Doug McDermott, and a second-round pick

Western conference gets even more interesting

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/9/23/16354870/carmelo-anthony-thunder
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He's also an incredibly gifted passer and with Chris Paul gone, I could easily see his assists totals jumping to 8 or 9 a game. He could be close to averaging a triple double, but you'd have to assume his rebounding numbers will continue to decline as his game moves further away from the basket and with DeAndre Jordan camped under the rim. He's kind of an elite version of Al Horford on offense. He's had assists rates over 24% the last 3 years, this was Horford's first year over 19% (24.4, huge jump).
Agree on Blake's passing ability however over the past 4 years Blake has played 28 games without Chris Paul and has averaged 4.9 assists per game which is identical to his assist average over the last two seasons (and less than his 5.3 with Paul in '14-'15. I think a lot of this has to do with Paul being out of the lineup the Clippers rely on Blake scoring the ball more without Paul in the lineup rather than being more of a distributor.
 

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Kevin O'Connor lays out how Carmelo in OKC could yield the best NBA basketball of Anthony's career.

“If I had a chance to be the second option, I will definitely be the second option,” Anthony said in 2015. “That just takes the load off of me. For me, I don’t have to go out there and do it every night. So I think everybody, All-Star players, we want that light, we want to be the focal point of our team, of our organization. But if we get somebody to come in and help us out, that’s a load off of us. That’s helpful to me, that’s helpful to the other star that’s coming in, that’s helpful to the whole team.” Anthony hasn’t had many chances in his career to back up those words. But when he has had them, he’s excelled. The best basketball of Carmelo’s career has come as a secondary option for USA Basketball or when he’s shared the floor with a quality NBA point guard. The game gets easy when someone else can create offense. Instead of being forced to make plays against a set defense, Melo can unleash off the catch, slash, or cut off-ball.
 

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Does the Anthony thing really move the needle much either way? Always seemed like a massively overrated one dimensional player to me. I also can't see Westbrook leaving the super max on the table. It is an absurd amount of money. In the scenario George and Anthony are gone after this year, the Thunder still wouldn't really have that much room to sign anyone. They'd be about 15 mil under the cap. That Steven Adams contract is brutal, even if he is a good player.
Anthony's not going anywhere. Where's he going to find someone who pays him $24.5 million dollars on the open market, with cap space being so tight next year?

In the best of circumstances, Donavan staggers the minutes of Westbrook, Melo, and George so there's always a scorer on the floor. Last year, the Thunder couldn't score with Westbrook on the bench. Their second unit was a trainwreck.