Bruins Trade for Ondrej Kase

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Clears cap space though, right? Would allow for another move.
Yes, but not having their first to deal would make that harder.

Immediate reaction is that I love this deal if they didn't retain any $. If they did retain 50%, it's basically cap hit neutral next year.
 

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Backes and a 1st is an outstanding price IMO if true. I would’ve been willing to dump a 2nd with Backes in the off-season to facilitate re-signing Krug
 

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Interesting, but my opinion will hang on how much salary they retain.
 

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so in the end a 1st, a prospect, and a player (although it's Backes) is the deal... for someone on no one's board?

maybe they are all going in this year
 

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I like it as a buy low with potential future upside trade, as long as they add another winger to help this year. He is a RFA, and his shooting percentage has dropped this year to 5.2%, which is not likely to continue and makes him look worse offensively than he really is.

Edit: after posting I looked at my username and realized I may have a slight bias in favor of czech players.
 

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I have to think if they are giving a first and a prospect in Alex Andersson who was a 2nd round pick that they aren't going to retain any of Backes salary.
I would hope not. They shouldn't be retaining any of it if they are giving up a 1st and a prospect.
 

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The analytics community loves Kase.

Steep price, but if they got out from under all of Backes’ money then I think they come out ahead. Kase is under control.
 

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This is a pretty good deal. Kase is a good player with 2 additional years of control after this one. He likely fits very well with Krejci and Debrusk. He's one of those guys who always looked like he would be more than he is because he keeps getting hurt. I believe he has back issues, so that's not great. This is a pretty good trade if it frees up the full cap space.
 

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Seems like a huge cost to get at best a marginal upgrade on roster talent. Not sure why they are retaining salary in that deal.
 

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Haven't seen it from a solid source, but belief is 25% of salary was retained. They needed the salary flexibility and all things considered, I think this is a good deal.
 

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Retaining salary in this deal really sucks. They gave up a lot to attach Backes' deal in this AND they have to pay 25% of it. Now, the 1st rd pick is not in play for a Kreider or a Palmieri. If this is all Sweeney does, I'd be very disappointed.
 

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ok so I guess this is the guy they went with, and clearing 75% of Backes instead of giving up Heinen or Bjork.

go analytics, be right!
 

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Seems like a huge cost to get at best a marginal upgrade on roster talent. Not sure why they are retaining salary in that deal.
He immediate is your 2nd best RW, so I think it's more than a marginal upgrade. He's a good player, only concern is health.
 

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Retaining salary in this deal really sucks. They gave up a lot to attach Backes' deal in this AND they have to pay 25% of it. Now, the 1st rd pick is not in play for a Kreider or a Palmieri. If this is all Sweeney does, I'd be very disappointed.
They get a player for 2 more years though, this isn't a rental. They got better this year, got a player for longer term, and freed up money next year. I'm ok with this, much rather use the 1st this way (which might help sign Krug next year) than for 2 months of Kreider.
 

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The Leafs paid a 1st round pick to unload one year of Patrick Marleau. The B’s are unloading 1.5 years of Backes’ contract. They added Axel Andersson and retained 25% and got a very good young player in return. I think they did well.

Kinda surprised Backes was ok with Anaheim.
 

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I think people are underrating Kase. He's pretty good. His cumulative numbers don't look great because he has had injury issues. He also plays with noone good out there, so playing with his countryman who has a skill set that compliments his might unlock something. Given That 1 year of Marleau cost a 1st, this is a pretty good deal.
 

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They get a player for 2 more years though, this isn't a rental. They got better this year, got a player for longer term, and freed up money next year. I'm ok with this, much rather use the 1st this way (which might help sign Krug next year) than for 2 months of Kreider.
One more year. He's RFA after next season but that's still fine.
 

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Retaining salary in this deal really sucks. They gave up a lot to attach Backes' deal in this AND they have to pay 25% of it. Now, the 1st rd pick is not in play for a Kreider or a Palmieri. If this is all Sweeney does, I'd be very disappointed.
Would it affect your thinking if freeing up the 75% allows them to resign Krug? I think Sweeney did outstanding to only have to retain 25% and get a player with upside even with the 1st attached.
 

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The Leafs paid a 1st round pick to unload one year of Patrick Marleau. The B’s are unloading 1.5 years of Backes’ contract. They added Axel Andersson and retained 25% and got a very good young player in return. I think they did well.

Kinda surprised Backes was ok with Anaheim.
This makes sense to me. And agreed, though at this point maybe Backes just wanted back on the ice before he rusted shut.
 

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They get a player for 2 more years though, this isn't a rental. They got better this year, got a player for longer term, and freed up money next year. I'm ok with this, much rather use the 1st this way (which might help sign Krug next year) than for 2 months of Kreider.
Yes he has term which is good. I just think the optimal way to go about this deadline is a Kase-type player for the 3rd line and Kreider or Palmieri for the 2nd line.

Imagine rolling these 4 lines out in the playoffs(assuming giving up Heinen for CK or KP)

Marchand-Bergeron-Pasta
DeBrusk-Krejci-CK or KP
Bjork-Coyle-Kase
Nordstrom-Kuraly-Wagner
 

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Would it affect your thinking if freeing up the 75% allows them to resign Krug? I think Sweeney did outstanding to only have to retain 25% and get a player with upside even with the 1st attached.
Long-term yes it's very good that a lot of Backes' money is off the books. Right now they have approx. $20 million in cap space with this deal. Just thinking about this season however, I hope Sweeney has another move up his sleeve.
 

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A 1.5 cap hit next year is not the end of the world with Beleskey and Seidenberg dead money coming off the books.
Also if Ducks buy him out (which is likely), the cap hit for next season drops to $1M (with a $250K hit the following season).
 

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Long-term yes it's very good that a lot of Backes' money is off the books. Right now they have approx. $20 million in cap space with this deal. Just thinking about this season however, I hope Sweeney has another move up his sleeve.
They still have assets and could shed some more cap for Palmieri if they traded Heinen with futures. Who knows if they have enough, but the extra cap space here makes that stuff possible. If they moved Heinen and added Palmieri theyd still have $16 mil in cap space next year.
 

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They still have assets and could shed some more cap for Palmieri if they traded Heinen with futures. Who knows if they have enough, but the extra cap space here makes that stuff possible. If they moved Heinen and added Palmieri theyd still have $16 mil in cap space next year.
Yes I hope he does. Kase now makes one of the young wings expendable.