Bruins to acquire Lindholm
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If that happens then the Bruins will have three big mobile defensemen locked up through 2027. That would be huge.
Now Sweeney needs to move DeBrusk and a prospect or two for a top six forward.
It also looks like the Bruins are getting D Kodie Curran. 32, apparently was really good over seas, named the top player in Sweden in 2020 with over a point per game. In the AHL, hasn't been able to make it all the way up. Wonder how he made it into the deal
LOL, I saw that earlier, but wasn't sure it was worth mentioning. Maybe the Providence Zamboni is broken and he knows how to fix it?
Oh I don't think he matters at all, but its just kinda weird since he's not on the NHL roster so its not like he counts on the cap to offset salary. The B's must have wanted him
It’s to balance contracts. Anaheim probably didn’t want to go +2 in contracts on the trade.
$6.5 million AAV on the extension.
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Legitimately a steal for his talent level.
This would bring him through his 36 year old season. And his style is one that should age well.
Oh my. A top four of Chuck, Lindholm, Carlo and Grz for the foreseeable future (at least the next two seasons) makes me really happy.
It’s a pretty big bet that his recent statistical decline is more related to his situation and bad team than anything else. The analytic types are cautious but point to solid micro stats as a reason for optimism.
I’m pretty happy here. I think they sold high on Vaak. Clearing Moore out is obviously good. The picks are steep but that’s the going rate. They’ve been looking for a top 4 defenseman for years and finally took the plunge. They weren’t going to get one for a 4th and Senyshyn, they were gonna have to pay big.
I’m pretty happy here. I think they sold high on Vaak. Clearing Moore out is obviously good. The picks are steep but that’s the going rate. They’ve been looking for a top 4 defenseman for years and finally took the plunge. They weren’t going to get one for a 4th and Senyshyn, they were gonna have to pay big.
this is my concern, especially locking up a guy roaring into his 30s. Definitely helps the team right now tho
Our last two major European mid-season LHD acquisitions got their name on the Cup. It’s go time.
To be able to get a top pairing D at age 27 for 8 years at $6.5m for a 1st and two 2nds when rentals are going for a 1st and 3rd is a pretty fucking great deal. For all the shit that Sweeney gets in here, this is an outstanding move.
I like the trade but don’t love the extension. 8 years is a lot of years and there are only 52 35+ players and 33 36+ players. Only 5 of the 36+ ones are defensemen. The last couple years could look very bad.
Before Lindholm broke his wrist and came back to play with a 19 year old who has never passed his own blueline, he was regarded as one of the most underrated D in the league. He was Jaccob Slavin before Jaccob Slavin. Up until 2019, he was a legit #1D. You have to hope that the good entry and exit numbers are a good picture of his true talent level. His numbers will improve with either Chuck or Carlo and I suspect that $6.5 will look like a steal for a while. He basically needs to recover to 1.5 WAR type play for it to be right. I think he will, but the end of that deal might suck. hopefully the cap rises enough that it doesnt matter.
Even if the lat 2-3 years fell off a cliff, with some expectation in an increased salary cap 6 years from now, how much impact would $6.5 aav really have? Worst case, it doesn’t feel like it would be that much of an issue. I would get it if it was an 8-10m aav deal, but this feels well worth the risk with minimal downside.
ya I would agree. Also in 8 years it’s likely this team is largely unrecognizable to today’s anyway.If it’s an issue, it should be a minor issue.
Isn't the (theoretical) point of the 8 year deal is that ~$50M is the going rate regardless of years, so in some sense it is better for Boston to go 8 years than 6 years to keep AAV down. The cap will be higher in 7-8 years so even if the contract doesn't look as good in thise years it will be easier to manage. Finally, good defensemen tend to maintain a value pretty well even after their peak.
I haven't followed the Bruins as closely as I used to, and I have no idea who Lindholm is. But the Bruins gave up a king's ransom for him.
Is he a legit #2, or at least someone who can play as a #2 on this Bruin team? If so then with the extension I can see the logic of the deal.
I haven't followed the Bruins as closely as I used to, and I have no idea who Lindholm is. But the Bruins gave up a king's ransom for him.
Is he a legit #2, or at least someone who can play as a #2 on this Bruin team? If so then with the extension I can see the logic of the deal.
I don't get this. They gave up a dead-weight player (Moore), a defenseman in Vaak whose ceiling is second pair, but is more likely to be a bottom pair or #7, so not much on the player front. As for picks, they gave up a low first, a low second, and what's likely to be a mid-to-low second. Those are all crap-shoot picks (especially with the way the Bruins draft). They're not nothing, but they're largely lottery tickets.
EDIT: And to answer your question, we'll see how he fits in with the B's, but I think he's a legit #2 to pair with McAvoy.
Moore was addition by subtraction. Vaakanainen, a first, and 2 seconds is a LOT to give up. But if you are right about Lindholm and the extension happens, then it may be a very good deal.
The Bruins are just the right mix of great at hockey, good at trading and extending, and bad at drafting and/or developing such that their picks are inherently devalued leading to this constant cycle of trading them and being fine with it.
They make it work for them, mostly because they tend not to splurge on rentals, but I do hope the next regime has a better eye for the draft, acknowledging of course that it’s generally a crapshoot anyway.
They make it work for them, mostly because they tend not to splurge on rentals, but I do hope the next regime has a better eye for the draft, acknowledging of course that it’s generally a crapshoot anyway.
"Bad" isn't a word I'd use. "Hit or miss" is better, but that's true of most organizations and doesn't change my point, which is that the picks that they gave up are more likely to be misses than hits.
I’m not gonna get into the Bruins draft history, but these picks are all much more likely to be hits than misses no matter who is making them.
I've been a Linholm stan for a few years. I'm comfortable saying that he'll earn his contract.
Meh. They got a 1B/2A defenseman for a late first, an average prospect, and some flyer draft picks. If people are up in arms about this, there isn't a trade to be had they'd like.
Yep and with ANA retaining 50% of salary, this is a cap neutral trade that keeps the Bs in the market for a 2C/ top 6 forward. I also think this trade is what extends Bergy.
This trade is perfect.
This trade is perfect.
If that is what he is and we have him for 8 years then the pricetag is fine.
Yeah, and it feels like throwing in Moore and getting Anaheim to take the 50% is what cost the extra 2nd round pick — which is basically the Bruins paying for the chance to add another player (2C) by Monday — so it is really getting a 1B/2A for the next 8 years for a late 1st, 2nd, and an average prospect. Based on the market, this feels like an A+ to me.
Great job by Donny getting a 1A/2B LHD and extending him to make him part of the core going forward, very happy with the addition. Interested to see if he can can find an impact forward, ideally a 2C, prior to the deadline with $5M of cap to work with.
I meant to say whoever makes these picks, they are much more likely to be misses than hits. They’re lottery tickets and I love this trade
I’ve always been a believer that you win from the defense out. This guy is really good at defense. The Bruins needed a shutdown guy on the left side, and they got one of the best in the league at it. They are a better team today. He should make a big difference against the top 3 in the east (Carolina, Tampa and Florida ).