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Beecher is out (again) for about a month with an upper body injury. Supposedly not related to his shoulder issue from last year. The guy has had a go of it with injuries at Michigan, and it's definitely not helping his development.
 

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We're back! Most of the junior/college leagues are underway in more normal conditions than last year.

NCAA

Mason Lohrei (F, Ohio State) 4 games 1-3=4
Jake Schmaltz (F, North Dakota) 4 games 3-2=5
Quinn Olson (F, Minnesota-Duluth) 4 games 1-2=3
Trevor Kuntar (F, Boston College) 4 games 0-3=3
Riley Duran (F, Providence) 5 games 1-1=2
Ty Gallagher (D, Boston University) 4 games 0-1=1
Dustin McFaul (D, Clarkson) 2 games 0-0=0
John Beecher (F, Michigan) - Injured

CHL

Fabian Lysell (F, Vancouver) 2 games 0-1=1
Brett Harrison (F, Oshawa) 3 games 0-1=1
Ryan Mast (D, Sarnia) 4 games 0-1=1

USHL

Mason Langenbrunner (D, Fargo) 5 games 0-1=1
Phillip Svedeback (G, Dubuque) 4 games .912
Andre Gasseau (F, Fargo) 5 games 5-2=7

Europe

Roman Bychkov (D, KHL, Khabarovsk) 9 games 0-0=0
Mattias Mantykivi (F, SM Liga, Ilves) 12 games 1-2=3
Oskar Jellvik (F, Swe JR, Djurgardens) 10 games 4-4=8

That covers everyone outside of Providence. Lysell is a top most prospect rankings, so he's one to keep an eye on. Lohrei has had a nice start to his college career, it'll be interesting to watch him progress. He gets more and more interesting each day. Beecher has had a rough run the past year or so. Quiet start to last season, missed the WJC's with Covid, got hurt upon returning, then hurt again to start this season.
 

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These kids will be retired before the Bruins play another hockey game, but let's see how the prospects are doing.

NCAA

Mason Lohrei (D, Ohio State) 10 games 2-6=8
Jake Schmaltz (F, North Dakota) 11 games 4-5=9
Quinn Olson (F, Minnesota-Duluth) 10 games 2-5=7
Trevor Kuntar (F, Boston College) 12 games 4-4=8
Riley Duran (F, Providence) 13 games 2-4=6
Ty Gallagher (D, Boston University) 12 games 2-4=6
Dustyn McFaul (D, Clarkson) 11 games 0-1=1
John Beecher (F, Michigan) 4 games 2-2=4

CHL

Fabian Lysell (F, Vancouver) 12 games 3-10=13
Brett Harrison (F, Oshawa) 12 games 8-7=15
Ryan Mast (D, Sarnia) 12 games 2-3=5

USHL

Mason Langenbrunner (D, Fargo) 13 games 0-3=3
Phillip Svedeback (G, Dubuque) 4 games .894
Andre Gasseau (F, Fargo) 13 games 6-3=9

Europe

Roman Bychkov (D, KHL, Khabarovsk) 11 games 0-1=1
Mattias Mantykivi (F, SM Liga, Ilves) 20 games 3-6=9
Oskar Jellvik (F, Swe JR, Djurgardens) 14 games 8-7=15

Beecher is back from injury and off to a good start on a stacked Michigan team. Lohrei continues to put up points on a ranked Ohio State team as a freshman. Schmaltz is intriguing. He's a freshman putting up decent numbers for North Dakota. Lysell seems to be settling in nicely in Vacouver.
 
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Harrison's numbers jump out. Is he old for the league?
Not really. The league is composed of 16-20 year olds and he's 18 (turns 19 in June).

The Canadian major junior leagues tend to be heavy on offense, so I would caution to take the raw goal and assist numbers with a grain of salt. Unfortunately, those are the only stats we get. You're looking more for year over year improvements. Harrison had 37 points in 58 games in 19/20 as a 16 year old, then lost last season to the pandemic. so jumping from under a PPG to over a PPG is good but may not really indicate that he's some offensive dynamo and future top 6 C. We won't really know much until he plays in Providence.
 

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That's correct. His numbers look decent, and he's also 4th in team scoring. Calum Ritchie is one of his teammates (8-9-17), and he is still only 16 years old. Granted, Ritchie was the 2nd overall selection this this year's OHL draft.
The other 2 ahead of him in team scoring are 19- and 20-year olds.
Hard to project just yet.
 

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Really appreciate these updates, cshea.
Same here!

And closer to the big club, not much to get excited about in Providence. None of Stud, Lauko, Lyle, Vaak or Hall are close to lighting it up. Maybe Steen and Ahcan if you're okay with little guys And post Swayman/Vladar, Keyser seems like a clear step down although at least he's getting a chance
 

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I watched OSU vs Notre Dame tonight and Lohrei was the best player on either team by a significant margin. He is huge and very slick. They have him playing RHD on the second pair, 1st PP and 1st PK. He's really good. I was excited before but its different after seeing him play against a good college team. He definitely signs in April.
 

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NCAA

Mason Lohrei (D, Ohio State) 16 games 2-12=14
Jake Schmaltz (F, North Dakota) 19 games 5-7=12
Quinn Olson (F, Minnesota-Duluth) 18 games 3-10=13
Trevor Kuntar (F, Boston College) 16 games 4-6=10
Riley Duran (F, Providence) 21 games 5-6=11
Ty Gallagher (D, Boston University) 18 games 2-7=9
Dustyn McFaul (D, Clarkson) 19 games 0-2=2
John Beecher (F, Michigan) 12 games 2-2=4

CHL

Fabian Lysell (F, Vancouver) 23 games 11-17=28
Brett Harrison (F, Oshawa) 21 games 15-11=26
Ryan Mast (D, Sarnia) 25 games 3-8=11

USHL

Mason Langenbrunner (D, Fargo) 22 games 0-4=4
Phillip Svedeback (G, Dubuque) 10 games .868
Andre Gasseau (F, Fargo) 20 games 7-5=12

Europe

Roman Bychkov (D, KHL, Khabarovsk) 13 games 0-1=1
Mattias Mantykivi (F, SM Liga, Ilves) 28 games 4-9=13
Oskar Jellvik (F, Swe JR, Djurgardens) 23 games 11-15=26

Lohrei continues to impress. Leading scorer for Ohio State as a freshman D. I don't want to put undue expectations on him, but he's probably their best hope at ending the top 4 LHD to play with McAvoy search. Lohrei and Lysell are 1/2 in some order. I would think both players join the organization after the year. Lysell has already signed his ELC and I suspect Lohrei will be signed after Ohio State's year ends. Maybe they leave him at OSU for another year, but given his year to year improvements, I think they'll bring him in and get him in Providence for the end of this season and next year, unless he forces someone out. For Lysell, I'm not sure if the WHL or NHL rule apples now that he's played there. If the AHl isn't an option next season, then that will delay his arrival. I think the biggest thing with him is his size and bulking up. He's going to put up a lot of points.

Beecher has gone cold. I haven't seen much of Michigan this year but know they are loaded with top of the draft picks. I'm not sure what his usage looks like, but given his injury woes to start the year I'm assuming he is getting bottom 6 minutes with little to no PP time. I think he'll sign when Michigan's year ends.
 

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What a find this kid is at #58 in the draft. That kind of skating ability and skill in a 6’ 4” defenseman is rare. From the limited amount of times that I’ve watched him, he doesn’t mind the physical game either.
 

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Let's be honest, the college game is about 25-30% slower than the NHL and probably slower than any major junior leagues.

He looks good, but I doubt he could step right into the NHL and be an effective two way dman.
 

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Let's be honest, the college game is about 25-30% slower than the NHL and probably slower than any major junior leagues.

He looks good, but I doubt he could step right into the NHL and be an effective two way dman.
I'm not sure anyone has said he could. He, like most all college defenseman not named McAvoy, would almost certainly benefit from a year of seasoning at the AHL level to get used to pro level speed and physicality. That being said, he's a big kid with good hands and good wheels whose only major criticism seems to be "he's old for his cohort", and even that doesn't really hold up when you consider that he converted to defense as a 16 year old. Compared to a number of the guys picked before him, including a lot of the other D-men, I'm damn impressed by how he's performed thus far. I mean, he's putting up numbers like Jake Sanderson, who is younger but has far more experience, and was picked #5 in 2020. That's just wild to me.
 

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eliteprospects.com tells me that he's 194 pounds (or was whenever they entered that data). He's looking a little heavier than that in those videos.
 

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Let's be honest, the college game is about 25-30% slower than the NHL and probably slower than any major junior leagues.

He looks good, but I doubt he could step right into the NHL and be an effective two way dman.
I don't think anyone is suggesting he steps in right away. The general idea is that he'd start off in Providence and go from there.

I'd also argue that the NCAA is not behind or slower than the major junior leagues. The NCAA is producting a ton of high quality NHL defenseman. A good chunk of these players are skipping the AHL entirely and making the jump from NCAA to the NHL. McAvoy, Cale Makar and Adam Fox are Norris caliber defenseman that made the leap. Quinn Hughes is a young stud who did the same. Noah Hanifin and Colton Parayko are older, middle tier guys who went straight to the NHL from college hockey. The #1 pick in last years draft, Owen Power, is a defenseman at Michigan who will likely make the NCAA to NHL jump after this season, unless Buffalo holds him back until they get a more solid foundation in place.
 
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Yeah, the gap between the NCAA's and the upper level junior hockey leagues has narrowed substantially over the past 10 years or so. Definitely not "slower any any major junior league" anymore.
 

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I don't think anyone is suggesting he steps in right away. The general idea is that he'd start off in Providence and go from there.

I'd also argue that the NCAA is not behind or slower than the major junior leagues. The NCAA is producting a ton of high quality NHL defenseman. A good chunk of these players are skipping the AHL entirely and making the jump from NCAA to the NHL. McAvoy, Cale Makar and Adam Fox are Norris caliber defenseman that made the leap. Quinn Hughes is a young stud who did the same. Noah Hanifin and Colton Parayko are older, middle tier guys who went straight to the NHL from college hockey. The #1 pick in last years draft, Owen Power, is a defenseman at Michigan who will likely make the NCAA to NHL jump after this season, unless Buffalo holds him back until they get a more solid foundation in place.
I'm with you here. NCAA hockey is proving to be a pretty good barometer of NHL success over the past decade. There are a bunch of examples of guys going straight to the NHL and being effective and not just stars like Fox and McAvoy. K'Andre Miller had a good year in his D+2 year and made the rangers out of camp last year. Zac Jones finished his season at umass last year and walked onto the rangers blue line. He's having a pretty good year in the AHL. Same with David Farrance out of BU, Boldy is going to play for the wild at some point this year (hes PPG in the AHL since signing out of BC last spring.) Newhook, Pinto, Caufield etc etc. It's not really uncommon anymore.

I've watched a lot of college hockey the past 5 years or so (I got hooked when Chuck was at BU) and while there are certainly a lot of guys who will score in college and be middling in the AHL, you can generally tell the guys who are going to eventually play in the NHL. McAvoy was obvious. Fox was obvious. I went to a Umass game in 2018 and told my nephew that Cale Makar could run an NHL powerplay right now. Lohrei is going to play in the NHL. He has an NHL level tool set and clearly thinks the game at a pace that most of his peers don't at that level. I'm not exactly sure when he gets there or what his chances of reaching his ceiling might be, but I'm confident in saying that pick was a major hit by Sweeney and co. The only thing holding him back is that weird choppy skating. There are definitely worse skaters in the NHL so I'm not super worried about it, but its something to keep an eye on. If I had to guess, I think he signs in April, plays a little in RI and dominates development camp. Then we see how he does in camp next September. The bruins are very conservative so I think he plays all next year in Providence, but from what I've seen at OSU, I wouldn't be surprised if we have a 2022 rookie NHL season out of this player. He's legit.
 

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Update on Bruins draft pick Defenseman Ty Gallagher, out of BU, who is skating with Chicago Blackhawks draft pick Alex Vlasic on the first defense pairing for BU (source: Goterriers.com)

AMESBURY, Mass. - Freshman Ty Gallagher of the Boston University men's ice hockey team has been named Hockey East Rookie of the Week, the league announced on Monday.

Gallagher was terrific at both ends of the ice in the Terriers' weekend sweep of Arizona State at Agganis Arena. On Friday, Gallagher lit the lamp and blocked two shots in a 7-1 win over the Sun Devils. The next night, Gallagher opened the scoring for the Terriers and blocked an additional two shots in a 5-2 triumph. He finished the weekend as a team-best plus-4 while also extending his point streak to three games.

This is the third weekly honor for Gallagher, who was named Hockey East Rookie of the Week on Oct. 25 and Hockey East Defender of the Week on Dec. 13. Gallagher enters Friday's contest at UConn with 11 points thanks to four goals and seven assists. He also leads all league freshmen and is tied for eighth overall in Hockey East with 24 blocked shots.
 

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Scott Wheeler (the Athletic) with his ranking (#27) of the Bruins system:

https://theathletic.com/2991199/2022/01/15/wheelers-2022-nhl-prospect-pool-rankings-no-27-boston-bruins/?source=user_shared_article

The Bruins had, for my money, their best draft in years in 2021. And so despite having graduated or moved six of the 16 players who appeared in last year’s ranking, I’m still higher on where Boston’s pool is at than I have been in years.

It’s still lacking in both quality and quantity relative to the field, but it’s definitely in better shape than it has been in each of the previous two years of this project. They’ve progressed from having a group made up entirely of peripherally-interesting depth pieces, to one that now has at least a small number of players who project higher into an NHL lineup at their ceilings. A couple of those were drafted in 2021. And another has progressed better than I anticipated to establish himself as a legitimate prospect.
  1. Lysell
  2. Studnicka
  3. Lohrei
  4. Harrison
  5. Beecher
 

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Players over 23 are not considered "prospects" for that guy, so Vaak not being listed is purely a byproduct of age.
Well that is a stupid cutoff. He just turned 23 on New Years. He’s all of 6 weeks older than Studnicka who was drafted in the same year and still qualifies by their dumb definition.
 

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The low ranking (#27) continues to be a bummer for this system. The big club could really use a big time addition (top 2 lines or defensive pairings) but hasn't had one for a long time, and I don't see much on the horizon. Lysell and Swayman are the only two guys that excite me. Maybe Lohrei for a while until I found out he's a 21 year old freshman! Almost feels like we're going backwards as it wasn't long ago that Lauko and Stud looked like quality prospects, but they've really fallen off. Just like the Sox minor league players, I think we overrate our guys - remember how excited we were about Ryan Donato as a potential 2nd liner?
 

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The low ranking (#27) continues to be a bummer for this system. The big club could really use a big time addition (top 2 lines or defensive pairings) but hasn't had one for a long time, and I don't see much on the horizon. Lysell and Swayman are the only two guys that excite me. Maybe Lohrei for a while until I found out he's a 21 year old freshman! Almost feels like we're going backwards as it wasn't long ago that Lauko and Stud looked like quality prospects, but they've really fallen off. Just like the Sox minor league players, I think we overrate our guys - remember how excited we were about Ryan Donato as a potential 2nd liner?
I have no idea what systems around the league look like but how much of this is simply the cost of competing every single year? Always picking later in rounds, often trading decent picks for short-term help, etc. They haven't made a futures trade in 5+ years so it's basically draft or bust in terms of acquiring good prospects. By never having a fire sale they don't get the benefit of acquiring legit prospects with track records beyond their draft year. Obviously, it's a huge issue that they haven't been very good at consistently drafting and developing impact players from within. Given the top end talent on the NHL roster, that has essentially been the difference between the excellent team they have been and the absolute juggernaut they could have been.
 

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It's really hard to find impact players in the draft unless you have a high pick or a lot of picks. You'll notice almost all of the teams ranked at the bottom with the Bruins are the teams that have been consistently good. Tampa, Pittsburgh, Washington, Chicago, St. Louis so far. The Isles are in there too.They don't have quite the same success as the othres but they've been a consistent playoff team in recent years. The only bad teams are Seattle who basically just has an incomplete system and Vancouver who hit on a lot of high picks (Pettersson, Horvat, Boeser, Hughes) but not depth. These teams have spent the better part of a decade trading picks for NHL help and picking in the low 20's. It's hard to compete for Cups and be a draft and develop juggernaut. I still think the Bruins are decent at selecting players it's just that where they pick it's extremely difficult to find star players.

Donato has become a decent player and was thought of well enough to be the main piece in a trade for Charlie Coyle. I wouldn't call him a bust.
 

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Not to mention - Pastrnak is 25, McAvoy is 24, Carlo is 25, Urho Vaakanainen is 23, Jacob Zboril is 24, Oskar Steen is 23.

The Bruins have graduated a lot of players in the last couple of years that are making an impact now.
 

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He's less glamorous, but Blidh was a 6th round draft pick. Getting 50 NHL games out of a 6th rounder is a scouting win, even if he's just a grinder. If Steen becomes a middle-6 guy, that's a huge win for the 5th round. Swayman was picked in the 4th round and looks like at the very minimum to be an NHL backup.

They also drafted Ryan Lindgren, Jeremy Lauzon and Daniel Vladar who have gone on to establish themselves as NHL players for other organizations. Lindgren was traded in the Rick Nash deal, Lauzon lost to expansion and Vladar traded to Calgary.

They can pick players it's just extremely hard to find high end, impact players where they have been picking. Pastrnak and McAvoy were gifts sent from the heaven's, those types of players are not available where they were taken every year.
 

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He's less glamorous, but Blidh was a 6th round draft pick. Getting 50 NHL games out of a 6th rounder is a scouting win, even if he's just a grinder. If Steen becomes a middle-6 guy, that's a huge win for the 5th round.
Just want to point out that both were Swedish guys that didn't flash the high end tools teams look for in draft picks, but were strongly advocated for by PJ Axelsson. They took 3 more Swedish players in the last draft. Lysell is the obvious headliner, but the took a goalie (Philip Svedeback) and a winger (Oskar Jellvik) in the later rounds. They'll probably continue to lean on PJ to find the later round lottery tickets to pump up the system.
 

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Scott Wheeler (the Athletic) with his ranking (#27) of the Bruins system:

https://theathletic.com/2991199/2022/01/15/wheelers-2022-nhl-prospect-pool-rankings-no-27-boston-bruins/?source=user_shared_article


  1. Lysell
  2. Studnicka
  3. Lohrei
  4. Harrison
  5. Beecher
Players over 23 are not considered "prospects" for that guy, so Vaak not being listed is purely a byproduct of age.
Sure - but also he forgot about Lauko last year. Pronman and Wheeler get a lot of shine because they are at the Athletic, but they suck at their jobs.
 

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The low ranking (#27) continues to be a bummer for this system. The big club could really use a big time addition (top 2 lines or defensive pairings) but hasn't had one for a long time, and I don't see much on the horizon. Lysell and Swayman are the only two guys that excite me. Maybe Lohrei for a while until I found out he's a 21 year old freshman! Almost feels like we're going backwards as it wasn't long ago that Lauko and Stud looked like quality prospects, but they've really fallen off. Just like the Sox minor league players, I think we overrate our guys - remember how excited we were about Ryan Donato as a potential 2nd liner?
Counterpoint - Lohrei started playing D at 16, dominated the USHL in years 3 and 4 of playing D and now is a PPG player as a D in the big 10 for a ranked team.

Lauko is having a tough year but Stud is playing pretty well in Providence now that he's back from Covid. He's got 5G and 11A in 20 games and looking good. Part of me thinks my previous gripes about Cassidy with young players may have been pointed in the wrong direction. One big difference I'm seeing this year is the players coming up from Rhode Island are way more ready than they've been in the past. Steen, Blidh and now Vaak (I don't think Zboril ever went down there this year bc of waivers) have all looked like different players this go around. I wonder if maybe Jay Leach wasn't as good as we thought he was at that step and Mougenel is better for that. Hard to know after only a few months but there hasn't been anyone coming up from RI that look lost lately. I'd love to see Senyshyn for a few games before he gets shipped out of town to see if I'm right here.

As far as the rest of the system, none of the guys in the system have been really penciled in as impact players for a few years now with the exception of maybe Studnicka. Lysell and Lohrei are better prospects than we've seen since McAvoy, though both are a ways away. Their draft this year looks pretty legit. Lysell's stock is up from draft day. Same with Harrison, Jellvik, Mast, Gasseau and Gallagher. String a couple more drafts together like that and the system looks a lot better.
 

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I have no idea what systems around the league look like but how much of this is simply the cost of competing every single year? Always picking later in rounds, often trading decent picks for short-term help, etc. They haven't made a futures trade in 5+ years so it's basically draft or bust in terms of acquiring good prospects. By never having a fire sale they don't get the benefit of acquiring legit prospects with track records beyond their draft year. Obviously, it's a huge issue that they haven't been very good at consistently drafting and developing impact players from within. Given the top end talent on the NHL roster, that has essentially been the difference between the excellent team they have been and the absolute juggernaut they could have been.
The worst systems in the league are Tampa, Pittsburgh, Kraken, NYI, Caps, Boston, and Canucks (lol) depending on which source you use, so ya. If you're good for a while, your prospect pools going to be kinda bad.

Similary, the best prospect pools: Kings, Ducks, Red Wings, Devils

You have to suck to have a strong prospect pool in the NHL unless you're the canes. Damn you, Waddell.
 

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Carolina missed the playoffs for 9 straight years before their current run of success so there was certainly a lot of suck tied within there.
On their current roster, absolutely. Svechnikov is was the second overall pick, Necas was 12(? i think). Their current prospect pool is strong mostly bc of shrewd drafting later in the draft, though. Who knows how these kids pan out, but the consensus around prospect guys is that the canes have a strong system and most of them arent high picks.

Wheeler had their top 10 as:
Jarvis - 1st rounder (14)
Suzuki - 1st round (28)
Gunler - Second round
Drury - Second round
Rees - Second round
Honka - third round
Puistola - third round
Keane - third round (traded for Gauthier)
Bokk - first rounder (faulk trade)