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Kind of a PITA player. He's big? probably Kuraly replacement

Is Haula the fourth line C or 3rd line LW? I don't really understand.
 

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I don't know if I like the cap number, but signing a PKer/3rd liner at ES tells me they're possible done with DeBrusk... using him as trade bait to get a top-4 defenseman would make me a pretty happy camper all told.
So working off this post what about something along the lines of Jake and Gryz for Ekholm? He's the Preds oldest player and a pending UFA. They are likely not a competitive team this season. Maybe have to include a pick as well (second/third) but the Bruins need a true LD1 to have some success in the playoffs. And the Preds have cap space to work with.

The other thought and this comes into play if Krejci doesn't come back, Jake, Gryz and Wagner (no pick) for Ekholm, Johansen (younger and less onerous of two awful deals) and Kunin along with some combination of salary retention by Preds and/or third team laundering? Johansen plays 2C and Kunin 3RW with Haula and Coyle.
 

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Marchand - Bergeron - Pastrnak
Hall - XXX - Smith
Haula - Coyle - DeBrusk
Frederic - Lazar - Nosek
Kuhlman, Blidh

Grzelyck - McAvoy
Reilly - Carlo
Forbort - Clifton
Zboril - Moore

Swayman
Vladar

I think they are probably done, but we'll see.

~$8.3 million in cap space left for Krejci and any other moves. This factors in $1.675 million for a Swayman/Vladar duo in net. $5 million-ish for Krejci and they enter the year with $3 million or so in cap space. Can tinker a bit with the depth guys like Blidh and Kuhlman being waived. Some of the cap space will likely be taken by Rask at some point. The rest will accrue as the year goes by, hopefully they have something to work with at the deadline again.

I would've liked more, but I also don't think they've missed the boat on anything significant. Any moves at this point of the off season likely requires money going out.
 

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Per the Globe 2 hours ago. Seriously? I hope he got his Nick's wrong.


• After looking at other bottom-six winger options, the Bruins brought back Nick Ritchie, according to the Globe’s Kevin Paul Dupont via a league source. Terms of the deal were immediately unclear. A restricted free agent, Ritchie was due a qualifying offer of $2 million. The Bruins balked at that, but Ritchie and agent Patrick Morris found common ground.
 

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Per the Globe 2 hours ago. Seriously? I hope he got his Nick's wrong.


• After looking at other bottom-six winger options, the Bruins brought back Nick Ritchie, according to the Globe’s Kevin Paul Dupont via a league source. Terms of the deal were immediately unclear. A restricted free agent, Ritchie was due a qualifying offer of $2 million. The Bruins balked at that, but Ritchie and agent Patrick Morris found common ground.
Considering the source, I'd be far from surprised. Assuming the Foligno news is accurate, my best guess:

Marchand - Bergeron - Pastrnak
Hall - Krejci - Smith
DeBrusk - Haula - Coyle
Foligno - Nosek - Lazar
Kuhlman, Blidh

Grzelyck - McAvoy
Reilly - Carlo
Forbort - Clifton
Zboril - Moore

Swayman
Vladar

If anyone would bite, I'd certainly love to see DeBrusk and Clifton packaged for an upgrade (or DeBrusk and Grzy). But that forward group is really fucking deep.
 

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I think the other thing that might be happening is going into the season with Swayman and Vladar, no safety net until Rask is back, and that’s assuming he comes back.
 

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So working off this post what about something along the lines of Jake and Gryz for Ekholm? He's the Preds oldest player and a pending UFA. They are likely not a competitive team this season. Maybe have to include a pick as well (second/third) but the Bruins need a true LD1 to have some success in the playoffs. And the Preds have cap space to work with.
I wouldn't trade Grz for Ekholm straight up...
 

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Trades pretty much have to happen. They were at $10 million in cap space before Foligno, Ullmark and Krejci. Foligno is reportedly upper $3's. so calling it $4 million leaves them with $6 million which won't fit both Krejci and Ullmark.
 

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Trades pretty much have to happen. They were at $10 million in cap space before Foligno, Ullmark and Krejci. Foligno is reportedly upper $3's. so calling it $4 million leaves them with $6 million which won't fit both Krejci and Ullmark.
Which is why I'm scared that Krejci is gone. None of the players on the roster are good enough to middle the second line.
 

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Trades pretty much have to happen. They were at $10 million in cap space before Foligno, Ullmark and Krejci. Foligno is reportedly upper $3's. so calling it $4 million leaves them with $6 million which won't fit both Krejci and Ullmark.
With Ullmark coming in at $5 million and $4 for Foligno, DeBrusk has to be traded for futures.
 

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They are too cavalier with middling outside free agents in the times they have ventured out on the market. I realize that is the cost of bringing in outside players but the track record is poor.

If this is setting up a trade or trades I’ll be happier as the track record is much better there.
 

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They don't need to sign Tuukka. He's a UFA, and if he's only going to play in Boston, they can wait until January, ship Vladar to someone, and then open space for a prorated Rask deal. Unless they're worried about him signing elsewhere, they have no reason to sign him until he's healthy.
 

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Cap Friendly has the B’s with $1 million in cap space after today’s moves.

Obviously need to move money to facilitate Krejci if/when that happens.
 

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I think the B's could arguably have won day 1 of free agency. They got a a top G FA, and multiple depth pieces while there was still a good selection/market for depth pieces. Yes, they have the obvious Jake Debrusk/Top 4 D trade to make, but I think they've put themselves into a more complete position that a lot of other teams in their division.
 

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I think the B's could arguably have won day 1 of free agency. They got a a top G FA, and multiple depth pieces while there was still a good selection/market for depth pieces. Yes, they have the obvious Jake Debrusk/Top 4 D trade to make, but I think they've put themselves into a more complete position that a lot of other teams in their division.
They don’t have the cap space to trade DeBrusk for a top 4 defenseman unless they want Coyle to be the #2 center.
 

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That didn't stop Tampa Bay last year.

Edit: I'm not necessarily saying LTIR, but some combination of retention and draft picks could probably make it a lot more feasible than it seems at face value.
 

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All things considered, I like the direction with these FA signings. I'm still left wanting more from the defense, but it's at least a better overall group we're seeing on the blueline.

Forwards

In: $7.925m
  • Foligno ($3.8m AAV)
  • Haula ($2.375m AAV)
  • Nosek ($1.75m AAV)

Out: $5.374m
  • Kuraly ($1.275m AAV, signed for $2.5m AAV)
  • Ritchie ($1.499m AAV, unsigned)
  • Kase ($2.6m AAV, unsigned)
  • Likely, but not counted above: DeBrusk, $3.625m

None of the moves stick out as particularly sexy, but neither was watching this at 5v5 last year:

Coyle - 51 GP, 5G, 8A, 51.3% oZS, 13:03 ATOI
Kuraly - 47 GP, 4G, 4A, 24% oZS, 12:08 ATOI
Ritchie - 56 GP, 10G, 4A, 62.2% oZS, 12:36 ATOI
DeBrusk - 41 GP, 3G, 8A, 57.8% oZS, 12:46 ATOI
Frederic - 42 GP, 4G, 1A, 41.8% oZS, 10:42 ATOI
Wagner - 41 GP, 2G, 3A, 25.1% oZS, 10:05 ATOI
Bjork - 30 GP, 2G, 3A, 42.1% oZS, 10:36 ATOI
Kuhlman - 20 GP, 2G, 0A, 54.2% oZS, 10:18 ATOI
Studnicka - 20 GP, 1G, 2A, 58.1% oZS, 11:08 ATOI

Total: 348 man-GP and about 4,074:20 of ES ice time - grand total of 33G, 33A, average of ~15 ES points (7.7G, 7.7A) in an 82 game season with 11:45 ATOI. Essentially, a season's worth of an entire bottom 6 of 4th liners

Obviously, not all those guys are gone, and the methodology is much less than perfect - but it's safe to assume the best performances out of what's left from the above group combined with what's coming in will be a much more effective bottom 6:

Foligno - 49 GP, 6G, 9A, 43% oZS, 14:08 ATOI
Nosek - 38 GP, 8G, 9A, 60% oZS, 11:33 ATOI
Haula - 51 GP, 6G, 10A, 43.8% oZS, 12:32 ATOI

Total: 138 GP and about 1,778 of ES ice time - total of 20 G, 28 A, average of over 29 ES points (11.9G, 17.3A) in an 82 game season with 12:53 ATOI. Basically, if the three new guys perform close to their historical norms and without even factoring in any kind of bounceback for Foligno, their bottom 6 output is up markedly, and they're arguably better defensively. Considering it's likely that Coyle bounces back as well as Foligno to some degree, IMO you're looking at a more-than-reasonable overall improvement in the bottom six, at a small increased investment in terms of AAV (net savings if DeBrusk is dealt).

Defense

This is where I'm a bit more underwhelmed by the sum of the B's moves. I'll start with the good:
  • They didn't trade for Duncan Keith
  • They didn't surrender two 2nd round picks for Brenden Dillon
  • They didn't give Codi Ceci 4 years, $3.25m or Tyson Barrie 3 years, $4.25m
  • They didn't give Goligoski a $5m cap hit
  • They re-signed Reilly for a below-market deal

I'm not that thrilled with the Forbort deal; it doesn't suck compared to other deals made today, but that's not really saying a whole lot on day 1 of UFA. Thinking of the opportunity cost with other UFA defensemen - we'll likely never know if Suter was realistic / wanted to play in Boston, or if the B's ever really considered him. Dougie, no thanks and it was never happening anyway. I wouldn't have minded a gamble on Nate Schmidt for a mid-round pick, and in the back of my mind I'm unrealistically hopeful they can turn DeBrusk / Studnicka / Moore / futures into some kind of quantity-over-quality package for Dunn. Not likely either.

In any event - I wish they could have used some of the available cap space to make Reilly - Carlo the third pairing. Didn't happen, Forbort / Clifton isn't the worst third pairing in hockey, but they'll need reinforcements (again) come deadline day if this is it for the blue line for now.

Goaltending

I like the targeting of Ullmark. The term and AAV are what you'd expect for a guy with league-average numbers behind a couple of the worst defensive rosters in the cap era. Getting a 3rd rounder back for Vladar instead of losing him to waivers is a win. Getting another guy like Grosenick makes sense as 3-4G.


Overall grade for today, I'd give them a solid B. Bottom six got a lot better, blue line improved but not significantly, the cap space was flexed but not necessarily locked up - there weren't many immovable contracts on the roster, and Sweeney didn't really add any today either that couldn't be sweetened with a pick to ship away if the need arose. End of the day, seems like Sweeney's job is riding on Ullmark being a .920+ guy outside of Buffalo, seems like a reasonable gamble to me.

edit: I should say, all of this is assuming they bring Krejci back on an incentive-laden deal with DeBrusk moved to clear space for him
 
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They don’t have the cap space to trade DeBrusk for a top 4 defenseman unless they want Coyle to be the #2 center.
Well they also are paying 3 defenseman around 10 million combined, so all 3 of them have to play.

The only way a deal for a defenseman makes sense is if you can find a way to turn Gryz and Debrusk, plus maybe other pieces into a legitimate top pairing LHD

Gryz can play the role in regular season, but hasn't been able to hold up to the postseason level. Especially when you want to shorten the bench a little and play your top pairing a bit more, and Gryz can't take the added load.

Anyway, still very much an incomplete for the team. I suspect Krejci will be back, but on the chance he isn't they simply don't have anyone who can legitimately replace him. I will admit, I am also not thrilled with the idea of paying Krejci on a bonus laden contract basically counting him against next year's cap. Last time the Bruins tried that, it blew up badly in their face, and basically cost Chiarelli his job.