Brad Stevens To-Do List

[mcpickl]

Now that the NBA is on to the 201-22 season, what would be on your list for Brad Stevens to accomplish this summer.

I'd have it in this order of importance.

1. Get Evan Fourniers signature on a contract. Whether it's to stay here, or be signed and traded, he cannot walk away with nothing coming back in return.
2. Trade Tristan Thompson. Can't go into another season with three guys in the rotation that can only play center. I think Horford can only play center at this point.
3. Acquire a big who can play as a small ball center, but can also be nimble enough defensively and shoot well enough to be on the floor as a forward with Al/Rob at C.
4. Acquire a veteran point guard.
5. Acquire a veteran SG/SF type who can shoot it from 3. Another Evan Fournier skillset type guy, but obviously not as his level since he'll be much cheaper.
6. Find a way to trade Carsen. Whether he's lumped into a TT trade, used as salary match to pick up one of the vets, or just pay a team cash to take him. Gotta go.
7. Depending upon what players Brad was able to grab to fill numbers 3,4, and 5 on the shopping list, decide whether he needs a different minimum player than Jabari for the last roster spot. This could be a develomental spot for the second round pick or Madar if he comes over. Or a different vet.

If they keep Fournier at around 15M, have one of the vets acquired(preferably the big) be around Thompsons salary, one vet for the taxpayer MLE and the other vet at the minimum, they'd be less than 10M over the tax. I'd hope that would be agreeable to Wyc and company.

What would everyone else like to see this summer?

 

[Cesar Crespo]

1 and 2 are fine.

3 is a pipe dream.
4 is obvious
5 could easily be Carsen. Preferably it's someone else in addition to Carsen. Or they can dump Carsen, I don't really care.
6. Why do you hate Carsen so much? I called the guy a bum after a week but at the end of the roster... who cares?
7. The last roster spot doesn't matter much as long as the top 8 are in place. Mader would be getting a 2 way deal regardless me thinks. The 2nd round pick is getting the 2nd one.

 

[mcpickl]

1 and 2 are fine.

3 is a pipe dream.
4 is obvious
5 could easily be Carsen. Preferably it's someone else in addition to Carsen. Or they can dump Carsen, I don't really care.
6. Why do you hate Carsen so much? I called the guy a bum after a week but at the end of the roster... who cares?
7. The last roster spot doesn't matter much as long as the top 8 are in place. Mader would be getting a 2 way deal regardless me thinks. The 2nd round pick is getting the 2nd one.

because I could fill that spot with a guy who isn't at the end of the roster and move everyone else better than Carsen down a peg?

Doesn't seem controversial.

Do you have any thoughts of your own for this summer? Or you just don't care what they do?

 

[Cesar Crespo]

because I could fill that spot with a guy who isn't at the end of the roster and move everyone else better than Carsen down a peg?

Doesn't seem controversial.

Do you have any thoughts of your own for this summer? Or you just don't care what they do?

I mostly agree with your thoughts. I just don't think player 3 is available and I don't care too much about roster spots 13-15. You kind of covered everything.

 

[the moops]

I'm still on the Bjelica train. I imagine he only gets the tax payer MLE from someone

 

[mcpickl]

I mostly agree with your thoughts. I just don't think player 3 is available and I don't care too much about roster spots 13-15. You kind of covered everything.

In that spot I was thinking Larry Nance. You think it's impossible a rebuilding team like Cleveland might move Larry Nance?

 

[Cesar Crespo]

In that spot I was thinking Larry Nance. You think it's impossible a rebuilding team like Cleveland might move Larry Nance?

Possibly. I think he'd be in high demand though. There just aren't that many small ball centers/4s that can shoot who are available. Every team wants those.

What assets would you flip for Larry Nance?

 

[Cesar Crespo]

I'm still on the Bjelica train. I imagine he only gets the tax payer MLE from someone

He fell off a bit and is already 33 years old. He would most likely come cheap though.

 

[mcpickl]

Possibly. I think he'd be in high demand though. There just aren't that many small ball centers/4s that can shoot who are available. Every team wants those.

What assets would you flip for Larry Nance?

I would give up the Celtics first next year for him. Or Romeo.

 

[HomeRunBaker]

4. My man Ish!!

 

[128]

4. My man Ish!!

Celtic-Killer Smith Finds Home in Boston

 

[Cesar Crespo]

Celtic-Killer Smith Finds Home in Boston

Was this an intentional Charles Smith joke?

 

[Cellar-Door]

I think my Brad to do list would be:
1. Figure out what you're doing with Fournier
2. Figure out if you plan to be hard capped

IF HARDCAPPED:
1. Aggressively pursue a trade that turns TT's salary slot into 1 or more players who fit the rotation better (likely a PG, but possibly a wing/swing)
2. Decide if you're extending Smart
3. Scour the cheap options for vet bigs at the minimum and maybe a vet wing/PG

IF NOT CAPPED:
1. Aggressively pursue a player (preferably a PG or wing) that fits into the Hayward TPE
2. Look to move TT to fill whichever spot you didn't with the Hayward TPE (possibly in combination with above in same deal as simulyaneous trades)
3. Use the taxpayer MLE to find your last rotation guy.

 

[benhogan]

Now that the NBA is on to the 201-22 season, what would be on your list for Brad Stevens to accomplish this summer.

I'd have it in this order of importance.

1. Get Evan Fourniers signature on a contract. Whether it's to stay here, or be signed and traded, he cannot walk away with nothing coming back in return.
2. Trade Tristan Thompson. Can't go into another season with three guys in the rotation that can only play center. I think Horford can only play center at this point.
3. Acquire a big who can play as a small ball center, but can also be nimble enough defensively and shoot well enough to be on the floor as a forward with Al/Rob at C.
4. Acquire a veteran point guard.
5. Acquire a veteran SG/SF type who can shoot it from 3. Another Evan Fournier skillset type guy, but obviously not as his level since he'll be much cheaper.
6. Find a way to trade Carsen. Whether he's lumped into a TT trade, used as salary match to pick up one of the vets, or just pay a team cash to take him. Gotta go.
7. Depending upon what players Brad was able to grab to fill numbers 3,4, and 5 on the shopping list, decide whether he needs a different minimum player than Jabari for the last roster spot. This could be a develomental spot for the second round pick or Madar if he comes over. Or a different vet.

If they keep Fournier at around 15M, have one of the vets acquired(preferably the big) be around Thompsons salary, one vet for the taxpayer MLE and the other vet at the minimum, they'd be less than 10M over the tax. I'd hope that would be agreeable to Wyc and company.

What would everyone else like to see this summer?

1. Yep, really like what I saw from EF offensively. Think he will be fine defensively as long as he's not paired with PP. Please keep him, nice complimentary player to the Jays.
2. TT+ picks + youngster could get us a nice rotational player. TT at $9.7MM is too much for a 3rd string Center. Moses/Kornet/GW + 1 more cheap vet Center can cover TL's injury malaise/Al's age.
3. As suggested Nance would be great. Maybe Kyle Andersen, with his standing reach, would be a nice rotational player (Ime would be very familiar with Slo-Mo). Not counting on Grant, but if he gets it together maybe he can fill this role. There were a smattering of PJ Washington rumors at season's end.
4. We've been kicking around Dejounte Murray pipe dreams on another thread (or Derrick White). Delon Wright may be a POI
5. Korkmaz is EF lite and may be available
6. Carsen and Waters both can go. Would like Brad to add Neto, Wannamaker, Ish or McLaughlin on a vet min for PG depth
7. Jabari seemed fine for a deep bench player. He's a bucket

 

[HomeRunBaker]

Ish is coming off another good year and a 4/$24m deal. He isn’t signing for the vet min.......and Neto was starting ahead of him.

 

[benhogan]

Ish is coming off another good year and a 4/$24m deal. He isn’t signing for the vet min.......and Neto was starting ahead of him.

if any of them get more than $2.5MM next season, that makes the decision really easy for Brad

 

[HomeRunBaker]

if any of them get more than $2.5MM next season, that makes the decision really easy for Brad

Both of their markets are much higher than $2.5m, that’s not even close to the offers they will have.

 

[benhogan]

Both of their markets are much higher than $2.5m, that’s not even close to the offers they will have.

cool, then Neto's in for his biggest payday ever

 

[NomarsFool]

What are the timelines with regards to Fournier? Do we assume that likely nothing will happen until the FA period opens up? When is that this year?

Is there any timeline with regards to signing Marcus Smart to an extension? In other words, is there some point in time this summer after which he can no longer be signed to an extension?

 

[Lazy vs Crazy]

What are the timelines with regards to Fournier? Do we assume that likely nothing will happen until the FA period opens up? When is that this year?

Is there any timeline with regards to signing Marcus Smart to an extension? In other words, is there some point in time this summer after which he can no longer be signed to an extension?

Free agent negotiations begin Aug 2, which is slightly complicated because the Olympics are still going on then.

 

[TripleOT]

Boston will have to decide to either clear cap space for the summer of 2022, or pay Fournier, extend Smart and TL, and hope internal development of the young players will be enough talent around the Jays to truly contend. Tough decision for Brad, although how the Fournier situation plays out could make the decision for him, if Even just bounces instead of agreeing to a S and T.

 

[Cellar-Door]

Boston will have to decide to either clear cap space for the summer of 2022, or pay Fournier, extend Smart and TL, and hope internal development of the young players will be enough talent around the Jays to truly contend. Tough decision for Brad, although how the Fournier situation plays out could make the decision for him, if Even just bounces instead of agreeing to a S and T.

Or trade for someone. That's the 3rd option.

 

[lexrageorge]

Or trade for someone. That's the 3rd option.

A sign-and-trade for Beal is probably the only way it happens. As a UFA, Beal would have leverage to pick his destination. Celtics would have the advantage of being able to offer Washington assets that they would not get if Beal was to simply walk to a team with cap space. Less likely to cost the Celtics Brown. Only risk is that there is this intervening season to get through where a lot of things could happen.

 

[NomarsFool]

It's a little bit of a theoretical exercise, but I'd be really curious what a player like Beal would say to the following question:

"We can offer you the max contract of $40 million, but if we do that, we have to renounce the rights to Player X - which is going to make it a weaker team. Or we can offer you $37 million and we are able to keep Player X. Which would you like us to do?"

 

[mcpickl]

Now that the NBA is on to the 201-22 season, what would be on your list for Brad Stevens to accomplish this summer.

I'd have it in this order of importance.

1. Get Evan Fourniers signature on a contract. Whether it's to stay here, or be signed and traded, he cannot walk away with nothing coming back in return.
2. Trade Tristan Thompson. Can't go into another season with three guys in the rotation that can only play center. I think Horford can only play center at this point.
3. Acquire a big who can play as a small ball center, but can also be nimble enough defensively and shoot well enough to be on the floor as a forward with Al/Rob at C.
4. Acquire a veteran point guard.
5. Acquire a veteran SG/SF type who can shoot it from 3. Another Evan Fournier skillset type guy, but obviously not as his level since he'll be much cheaper.
6. Find a way to trade Carsen. Whether he's lumped into a TT trade, used as salary match to pick up one of the vets, or just pay a team cash to take him. Gotta go.
7. Depending upon what players Brad was able to grab to fill numbers 3,4, and 5 on the shopping list, decide whether he needs a different minimum player than Jabari for the last roster spot. This could be a develomental spot for the second round pick or Madar if he comes over. Or a different vet.

If they keep Fournier at around 15M, have one of the vets acquired(preferably the big) be around Thompsons salary, one vet for the taxpayer MLE and the other vet at the minimum, they'd be less than 10M over the tax. I'd hope that would be agreeable to Wyc and company.

What would everyone else like to see this summer?

1. Check
2. Check
3. Maybe half a check. Needed someone better than Juancho here, but at least did something to add here.
4. Check with Schroder
5. Check. Richardson not the shooter Evan is, but a world better as a defender so good enough
6. Check
7. Incomplete. Could be Jabari here, or they could still give his spot to someone else

I'm very happy with the beginning of the President Brad era

 

[benhogan]

7. Incomplete. Could be Jabari here, or they could still give his spot to someone else

I'm very happy with the beginning of the President Brad era

good work

PBS/Zarren combo has been very stealthy/effective.

on #7, would like them to consider someone else besides Jabari. Wait for more buyouts and leftovers.
or even stay with what is old/is new theme and bring back Wanamaker

 

[TripleOT]

I’m OK with Jabari as the 15th man. Ime can throw him out there in an emergency and Parker will score a bit.Udoka has to figure out a way to minimize the damage guys like Kanter and Parker can do to his defense

 

[Jimbodandy]

I’m OK with Jabari as the 15th man. Ime can throw him out there in an emergency and Parker will score a bit.Udoka has to figure out a way to minimize the damage guys like Kanter and Parker can do to his defense

Imo we've added enough good defense and length this offseason to be able to spot minutes for Kanter and Parker types without getting killed. And we probably have enough shooting for those minutes too.

Not expecting to see a lot of them though. I'd be surprised if Kanter isn't DNPCD like half the time and Parker 2/3 of the games.

 

[HomeRunBaker]

Imo we've added enough good defense and length this offseason to be able to spot minutes for Kanter and Parker types without getting killed. And we probably have enough shooting for those minutes too.

Not expecting to see a lot of them though. I'd be surprised if Kanter isn't DNPCD like half the time and Parker 2/3 of the games.

That’s when you know it’s time to compete rather than rebuild…….when 13-15 are veterans who can actually give you some spot minutes and not Fall, Waters, Edwards, etc.

It’s on bitches!!!

 

[mcpickl]

good work

PBS/Zarren combo has been very stealthy/effective.

on #7, would like them to consider someone else besides Jabari. Wait for more buyouts and leftovers.
or even stay with what is old/is new theme and bring back Wanamaker

I also don't see what the point is of having Jabari there, unless they just love him as a locker room guy or he has some Duke bond with Tatum. I also don't think they need to add a different vet in his spot.

The Celtics have 13 guys that could make a case to be in the rotation. The only guys that I don't think can are Jabari and Fernando.

I'd offer camp invites to a couple younger non-bigs to see if they could steal the Jabari spot just to give them a different type player than Jabari/Fernando.

Unless Jabari is really good in camp, I'd actually prefer just releasing him and leaving the 15th spot open for buyout guys later in the year or an unbalanced trade.

 

[Jimbodandy]

I also don't see what the point is of having Jabari there, unless they just love him as a locker room guy or he has some Duke bond with Tatum. I also don't think they need to add a different vet in his spot.

The Celtics have 13 guys that could make a case to be in the rotation. The only guys that I don't think can are Jabari and Fernando.

I'd offer camp invites to a couple younger non-bigs to see if they could steal the Jabari spot just to give them a different type player than Jabari/Fernando.

Unless Jabari is really good in camp, I'd actually prefer just releasing him and leaving the 15th spot open for buyout guys later in the year or an unbalanced trade.

If nobody beats out Jabari before the season, they're on the hook for another 1.1M IIRC. Not sure the haste to jettison over chump change like that, but I don't think that it would be a big loss either.

 

[mcpickl]

If nobody beats out Jabari before the season, they're on the hook for another 1.1M IIRC. Not sure the haste to jettison over chump change like that, but I don't think that it would be a big loss either.

because the Celtics are currently in the tax, and are very likely to finish the season over the tax, that 1.1M guaranteed he makes for being on the opening day roster will likely cost Wyc closer to 3 million bucks.

If the guy doesn't have much of a path to getting minutes, I'd guess the owner might say something like, are you sure I need to spend 3 million more dollars there?

Unless they think they'll need his salary to include in a trade later on, I'd guess they might just want to save the money.

 

[DJnVa]

 

[JM3]

I read that article...I couldn't figure out what imaginary trade he was positing where we kept everyone & added Simmons. Seemed like clickbait.

 

[Lazy vs Crazy]

Yeah the Celtics don't have the salary to do it until midseason due to extension restrictions. I mean assuming Philly doesn't want Al back. It'd have to be a 3-teamer of some sort. Seems just about impossible.

 

[128]

I read that article...I couldn't figure out what imaginary trade he was positing where we kept everyone & added Simmons. Seemed like clickbait.

As a rule, I disregard anything resembling "breaking news" from Blakely. He seems like a nice guy, but as a reporter he's no Jackie MacMullan.