Brad Stevens: President of Basketball Ops

radsoxfan

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The TL extension along with Smart's got me to pondering (always dangerous) and by my count brings to 8 the homegrown 1st round draft picks on this team.
Speaking of draft picks, these recent contracts bring Danny's pretty great draft run from 2014-2018 into focus. He had A LOT of picks, and many flamed out, as expected.

But his 1st selection in each of those drafts... strong work.


2014: Marcus Smart (6th)

2015: Terry Rozier (16th)

2016: Jaylen Brown (3rd)

2017: Jayson Tatum (3rd)

2018: Robert Williams (28th)
 

Cesar Crespo

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We get our stretch 4!

Kidding, although he does have some talent... I didn't realize he was turning 26 this month tho. He's signed for next year too, though it's not guaranteed.
 

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We get our stretch 4!

Kidding, although he does have some talent... I didn't realize he was turning 26 this month tho. He's signed for next year too, though it's not guaranteed.
He is exactly the sort of piece that this team should be looking to add given the cost (a surplus of tiny guards).

Brad is going to be good at this, isn't he?
 

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I love how has has turned over the bottom of the roster. He knew better than anyone that it sucked. Brad just might turn out to be a good team architect.
 

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A week or so ago there was speculation that one of the PGs would be gone but I wasn't expecting two to depart.

Here is where I think the roster stands now:

Jaylen Brown
Bruno Fernando
Juancho Hernangomez
Al Horford
Enes Kanter
Romeo Langford
Aaron Nesmith
Jabari Parker
Payton Pritchard
Josh Richardson
Denis Schröder
Marcus Smart
Jayson Tatum
Grant Williams
Robert Williams

15 bodies to fill 15 slots. The roster is now very light on ones and an argument could be made that Schröder is the only true PG on the roster.

Perhaps PGs are becoming obsolete and positional flexibility and switch-ability are the future but I am a bit uncomfortable with the prospect of so many minutes with Smart and Prichard at the point.

I'm not convinced that Brad is done tinkering. This offseason has been highly entertaining from a roster perspective and I am fascinated to see how this plays out.
 

Cesar Crespo

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A week or so ago there was speculation that one of the PGs would be gone but I wasn't expecting two to depart.

Here is where I think the roster stands now:

Jaylen Brown
Bruno Fernando
Juancho Hernangomez
Al Horford
Enes Kanter
Romeo Langford
Aaron Nesmith
Jabari Parker
Payton Pritchard
Josh Richardson
Denis Schröder
Marcus Smart
Jayson Tatum
Grant Williams
Robert Williams

15 bodies to fill 15 slots. The roster is now very light on ones and an argument could be made that Schröder is the only true PG on the roster.

Perhaps PGs are becoming obsolete and positional flexibility and switch-ability are the future but I am a bit uncomfortable with the prospect of so many minutes with Smart and Prichard at the point.

I'm not convinced that Brad is done tinkering. This offseason has been highly entertaining from a roster perspective and I am fascinated to see how this plays out.
Carsen isn't really a PG and Dunn is always injured. I don't think the trade changed much. Brad has done a good job getting rid of redundancy for need this off season. I wonder if Juan has a chance of stealing Grant's minutes, tho. The team also has Houser on a 2 way and the other 2 way open, I think.

I wouldn't mind another tallish PG but between Schroder, Smart and PP I'm not worry too much about the PG position. The roster construction is pretty solid. Only thing missing is the combo 4/5.
 

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The last $1.1m of JP's contract doesn't guarantee until opening night & there are a fair # of PGs floating around including old friends Avery Bradley, Brad Wannamaker, Jeff Teague, IT2 & Tremont Waters, as well as random potential new friends such as Matt Dellavedova, Mike James, Nico Mannion, Franky Smokes, Langston Galloway & Quinn Cook.
 

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My guess is that they go into the season without adding another ballhandling guard just because they have quite a few options in non-guard ball handlers where they don't have to worry as much about match-ups. Al Horford's skillset and what it allows teams to do is underrated here.
 

bigq

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Carsen isn't really a PG and Dunn is always injured. I don't think the trade changed much. Brad has done a good job getting rid of redundancy for need this off season. I wonder if Juan has a chance of stealing Grant's minutes, tho. The team also has Houser on a 2 way and the other 2 way open, I think.

I wouldn't mind another tallish PG but between Schroder, Smart and PP I'm not worry too much about the PG position. The roster construction is pretty solid. Only thing missing is the combo 4/5.
I agree about Carsen (I don't think he will be missed) and know little about Dunn (your comment about his ability to stay on the court appear to be spot on) but thought he could be a good depth piece.

I guess it will be match up specific but I could see small, quick PGs giving this Celtics team a lot of headaches but perhaps that is a reasonable trade off for an improved overall roster.
 

Eddie Jurak

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My guess is that they go into the season without adding another ballhandling guard just because they have quite a few options in non-guard ball handlers where they don't have to worry as much about match-ups. Al Horford's skillset and what it allows teams to do is underrated here.
They could also add one on a 2-way to provide a little more depth. I also think Parker is not long for this team, so clearing a roster spot will be easy.
 

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Also wonder if other GM’s are open for business with us again, and just didn’t want to work with DA anymore.
I don't want to read too much into that, but there may have been some element of it. It definitely feels like all the marginal low-level moves that would have helped title odds in (e.g.) 2019-2020 are now available again, for whatever reason.
 

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The last $1.1m of JP's contract doesn't guarantee until opening night & there are a fair # of PGs floating around including old friends Avery Bradley, Brad Wannamaker, Jeff Teague, IT2 & Tremont Waters, as well as random potential new friends such as Matt Dellavedova, Mike James, Nico Mannion, Franky Smokes, Langston Galloway & Quinn Cook.
Going through this list…..Dellavedova signed in Australia(?) and Mannion in Italy, the latters rights are still owned by the Warriors. Cook is worse than Waters and James doesn’t seem like a good fit. Of this list, only Galloway and Bradley intrigue me and I wonder how much Avery wants to play basketball anymore. There will always be emergency guys of this level available if we need them due to a long term injury and let’s remember the long game includes Beal who will have the ball in his hands a ton anyway.

I am very happy, and not surprised, that Brad is better at structing a roster than he is coaching it. The upgrades at both of these positions seem to have changed our entire culture of last years IDGAF attitude that permeated much of the time.
 

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I am very happy, and not surprised, that Brad is better at structing a roster than he is coaching it. The upgrades at both of these positions seem to have changed our entire culture of last years IDGAF attitude that permeated much of the time.
I’m not sure I’m there yet, not taking anything away from the GM piece.

Looking back I can think of no players that I believe would’ve developed better under another coach and no series that I think another coach would’ve won where we lost. I will concede the roster showed all kinds of bad signs last year, but I don’t think it was unrecoverable. Or unforgivable.

I am also surprised both how effective and decisive he’s been so early in his tenure.
 

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Combo guards like Etwaun Moore & Wesley Matthews
Going through this list…..Dellavedova signed in Australia(?) and Mannion in Italy, the latters rights are still owned by the Warriors. Cook is worse than Waters and James doesn’t seem like a good fit. Of this list, only Galloway and Bradley intrigue me and I wonder how much Avery wants to play basketball anymore. There will always be emergency guys of this level available if we need them due to a long term injury and let’s remember the long game includes Beal who will have the ball in his hands a ton anyway.

I am very happy, and not surprised, that Brad is better at structing a roster than he is coaching it. The upgrades at both of these positions seem to have changed our entire culture of last years IDGAF attitude that permeated much of the time.
Sorry, was just scrolling through the RealGM free agency list. Mannion made no sense to me, but didn't bother questioning it.

Not advocating that we acquire any of those guys as much as saying it is an easy role to fill.