Bowl Games? Bowl Games! Game thread 2016-17

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I just watched Grambling beat NC Central in a defensive struggle that was actually well-played, 10-9, when a NCC touchdown that seemed to tie the game with 2 minutes left was followed by an unsportsmanlike celebration penalty, pushing the PAT back 15 yards, which was then blocked.

Quite an opening to a big schedule. Here's the full list, spoilered.

Sat Dec. 17

Air Force Reserve Celebration Bowl
North Carolina Central vs. Grambling
12 p.m., ABC
Georgia Dome, Atlanta

Gildan New Mexico Bowl
New Mexico vs. UTSA
2 p.m., ESPN
University Stadium, Albuquerque, N.M.

Las Vegas Bowl Presented by Geico
Houston vs. San Diego State
3:30 p.m., ABC
Sam Boyd Stadium, Las Vegas

Raycom Media Camellia Bowl
Appalachian State vs. Toledo
5:30 p.m., ESPN
Cramton Bowl, Montgomery, Ala.

AutoNation Cure Bowl
UCF vs. Arkansas State
5:30 p.m., CBS Sports Network
Camping World Stadium, Orlando, Fla.

R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl
Southern Mississippi vs. Louisiana-Lafayette
9 p.m., ESPN
Mercedes-Benz Superdome, New Orleans

Mon Dec. 19
Miami Beach Bowl
Central Michigan vs. Tulsa
2:30 p.m., ESPN
Marlins Park, Miami

Tue Dec. 20
Boca Raton Bowl
Memphis vs. Western Kentucky
7 p.m., ESPN
FAU Stadium, Boca Raton, Fla.

Wed Dec. 21
San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl
BYU vs. Wyoming
9 p.m., ESPN
Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego

Thu Dec. 22
Famous Idaho Potato Bowl
Idaho vs. Colorado State
7 p.m., ESPN
Albertsons Stadium, Boise, Idaho


Fri Dec. 23

Popeyes Bahamas Bowl
1 p.m., ESPN
Thomas A. Robinson National Stadium, Nassau, Bahamas
Eastern Michigan vs. Old Dominion

Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl
Louisiana Tech vs. No. 25 Navy
4:30 p.m., ESPN
Amon G. Carter Stadium, Fort Worth, Texas

Dollar General Bowl
Ohio vs. Troy
8 p.m., ESPN
Ladd-Peebles Stadium, Mobile, Ala.


Sat Dec. 24
Hawai'i Bowl
Hawai'i vs. Middle Tennessee
8 p.m., ESPN
Aloha Stadium, Honolulu


Mon Dec. 26

St. Petersburg Bowl
Miami (Ohio) vs. Mississippi State
11 a.m., ESPN
Tropicana Field, St. Petersburg, Fla.

Quick Lane Bowl
Maryland vs. Boston College
2:30 p.m., ESPN
Ford Field, Detroit

Camping World Independence Bowl
NC State vs. Vanderbilt
5 p.m., ESPN2
Independence Stadium, Shreveport, La.


Tue Dec. 27

Zaxby's Heart of Dallas Bowl
Army vs. North Texas
12 p.m., ESPN
Cotton Bowl, Dallas

Military Bowl Presented by Northrop Grumman
No. 24 Temple vs. Wake Forest
3:30 p.m., ESPN
Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium, Annapolis, Md.

National Funding Holiday Bowl
Minnesota vs. Washington State
7 p.m., ESPN
Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego

Motel 6 Cactus Bowl
Boise State vs. Baylor
10:15 p.m., ESPN
Chase Field, Phoenix


Wed Dec. 28

New Era Pinstripe Bowl
No. 23 Pittsburgh vs. Northwestern
2 p.m., ESPN
Yankee Stadium, Bronx, N.Y.

Russell Athletic Bowl
No. 16 West Virginia vs. Miami
5:30 p.m., ESPN
Camping World Stadium, Orlando, Fla.

Foster Farms Bowl
Indiana vs. No. 19 Utah
8:30 p.m., Fox
Levi's Stadium, Santa Clara, Calif.

AdvoCare V100 Texas Bowl
Texas A&M vs. Kansas State
9 p.m., ESPN
NRG Stadium, Houston


Thu Dec. 29

Birmingham Bowl
South Florida vs. South Carolina
2 p.m., ESPN
Legion Field, Birmingham, Ala.

Belk Bowl
Arkansas vs. No. 22 Virginia Tech
5:30 p.m., ESPN
Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte, N.C.

Valero Alamo Bowl
No. 12 Oklahoma State vs. No. 10 Colorado
9 p.m., ESPN
Alamodome, San Antonio


Fri Dec. 30

AutoZone Liberty Bowl
Georgia vs. TCU
12 p.m., ESPN
Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium, Memphis, Tenn.

Hyundai Sun Bowl
No. 18 Stanford vs. North Carolina
2 p.m., CBS
Sun Bowl, El Paso, Texas

Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl
Nebraska vs. No. 21 Tennessee
3:30 p.m., ESPN
Nissan Stadium, Nashville, Tenn.

Nova Home Loans Arizona Bowl
South Alabama vs. Air Force
5:30 p.m., Campus Insiders
Arizona Stadium, Tucson, Ariz.

Capital One Orange Bowl
No. 6 Michigan vs. No. 11 Florida State
8 p.m., ESPN
Hard Rock Stadium, Miami Gardens, Fla.

Sat Dec. 31
Buffalo Wild Wings Citrus Bowl
No. 20 LSU vs. No. 13 Louisville
11 a.m., ABC
Camping World Stadium, Orlando, Fla.

TaxSlayer Bowl
Georgia Tech vs. Kentucky
11 a.m., ESPN
EverBank Field, Jacksonville, Fla.

College Football Playoff semifinal at the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl
No. 4 Washington vs. No. 1 Alabama
3 p.m., ESPN
Georgia Dome, Atlanta

College Football Playoff semifinal at the PlayStation Fiesta Bowl
No. 3 Ohio State vs. No. 2 Clemson
7 p.m., ESPN
University of Phoenix Stadium, Glendale, Ariz.


Mon Jan. 2

Outback Bowl
No. 17 Florida vs. Iowa
1 p.m., ABC
Raymond James Stadium, Tampa, Fla.

Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic
No. 15 Western Michigan vs. No. 8 Wisconsin
1 p.m., ESPN
AT&T Stadium, Arlington, Texas

Rose Bowl Game Presented by Northwestern Mutual
No. 9 USC vs. No. 5 Penn State
5 p.m., ESPN
Rose Bowl, Pasadena, Calif.

Allstate Sugar Bowl
No. 14 Auburn vs. No. 7 Oklahoma
8:30 p.m., ESPN
Mercedes-Benz Superdome, New Orleans

Sat Jan. 7
NCAA FCS Championship
Noon, ESPN2
Toyota Stadium, Frisco, Texas


Mon Jan. 9
College Football Playoff National Championship
8 p.m., ESPN
Raymond James Stadium, Tampa, Fla.
 

Mugsy's Jock

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Since it's a fairly impressive record - San Diego State's RB Donnel Pumphrey broke the FBS career rushing record, hitting a total of 6,405 for his college career.
To be fair, while Pumphrey topped Ron Dayne's official record, for some dumb reason yardage gained in bowl games before 2002 aren't included in players' official records. Dayne got like 750 yards in his 4 bowl games.

Dayne was kind of an under appreciated college running back, his unexceptional NFL career notwithstanding

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/donnel-pumphrey-rushing-record-ron-dayne-tweet-all-time-leaders-career-yards-ncaa-controversy-121716
 

brandonchristensen

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I was working at the San Diego / Houston game. Third vegas bowl. Got to meet marshawn lynch and victorino was there again (though I didn't get to talk to him this time).

Stadium was only half full. Really disappointing turnout.
 

DJnVa

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EMU versus Old Dominion has kicked off in the Bahamas Bowl. EMU's first bowl game since 1987, and ODU's first ever in their 2nd year of eligibility and only 8th year of football.

ODU is led by former Maine QB Bobby Wilder.
 

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Old Dominion's story is kind of fascinating. They had football for about a decade in the 30s and 40s when they were a remote campus of William & Mary, and weren't half bad, over .500. Then they canceled football because of $10,000 of debt.

The program was reborn 9 years ago (like most new programs, redshirting their entire first recruiting class), and plays in Foreman Field, the same stadium (with significant renovations) as the original iteration.
 
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DJnVa

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Old Dominion's story is kind of fascinating. They had football for about a decade in the 30s and 40s when they were a remote campus of William & Mary, and weren't half bad, over .500. Then they canceled football because of $10,000 of debt.

The program was reborn 9 years ago (like most new programs, redshirting their entire first recruiting class), and plays in Foreman Field, the same stadium (with significant renovations) as the original iteration.
The stadium is going to be essentially knocked down and rebuilt over next few years. They've sold out every game.
 

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Two terrible PI calls against Navy to keep La Tech drive moving, the second erasing a Navy INT. I hate bad officiating. 38-38 but Tech inside the 5.
Really brutal calls against the Mids. LA Tech's offense was impressive as always, though. Skip Holtz is doing a fine job.
 

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The stadium is going to be essentially knocked down and rebuilt over next few years. They've sold out every game.
It's crazy to me that Virginia only had 2 FBS programs until Old Dominion came up. It's a big state with a good amount of players. Even more so with Georgia until Georgia St and Georgia Southern got to FBS relatively recently
 

DJnVa

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It's crazy to me that Virginia only had 2 FBS programs until Old Dominion came up. It's a big state with a good amount of players. Even more so with Georgia until Georgia St and Georgia Southern got to FBS relatively recently
That talent in the 757 area is why ODU will be able to bring P5 schools in to play the next few years. UNC next season, Va Tech and UVA in the years after.
 

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Flying up to Charlotte tomorrow for the Belk Bowl on Thursday. Gotta support my Hogs against the Hokies, although my expectations are certainly tempered (years of Razorback conditioning).
 

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Wake Forest looks like a completely different team today after the "Wakeyleaks" thing broke. It appears it was a huge issue for their offense.
 

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right after SCar made it 22-14 with 1:12 to go in the 1st half, USF drove down and, on 4th and 3, scored a 37 yard TD pass to make it 29-14 at halftime
 
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The Napkin

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So cold here in Charlotte. Awesome first quarter by the Hogs though.
Congrats, hope you're enjoying yourself. Wish they could have at least pretended to show up but Fuente apparently learned from Beamer and it was more important for the players to have fun jet skiiing on Lake Norman than do bowl prep.
 

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Was the call that it was holding prior to the return? It seems like they ignored the kick part entirely - and enforced the penalty on the defense, effectively giving the offense a 1st down
 

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I have literally no idea what just happened. Hogs never had the ball. And there was holding on the punt. So somehow it was a first down back where they kicked from.
 

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Like, I think not only was the call wrong. But forgetting that and assuming it was Arkansas ball then it should have been at the other 29 right?
 

The Napkin

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The most Razorback game ever.
I'm really really happy. I'm also pretty drunk on really good bourbon. But I also kind of feel bad for you.

I have no idea what was with this team and bad 1st and good 2nd halves but 17 back to ND and won, 21 back to Clemson and were 15 yards from tying, and 24 back tonight. Whatever Fuente is doing at halftime is obviously working. I'd just like for it to not have to happen quite so dramatically.

A rejuvenated Foster defense. A competent offense that can put points on the board. And 10 wins in his first year. Me likey. Me likey a lot.
 

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Anyone watching Colorado-OSU? Paging @RingoOSU

Don't like the punt there by CU on 4th and 1. Down 10-0, I'd go for the momentum shift (though in fairness, I'm sure the coaches didn't expect < 30 yards net on the punt).

Edit: And just like that, OSU in the red zone. So much for "playing it safe."
 

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Anyone still watching?

If that pick play is legal, I don't know why you'd run any other play within 5 yards - there seems to be no way to defend that
 

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Anyone still watching?

If that pick play is legal, I don't know why you'd run any other play within 5 yards - there seems to be no way to defend that
There are no pass interference restrictions either way on passes thrown in or behind the neutral zone. So the offense can set picks but the defense could just tackle the open receiver.
 

Drocca

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I'm really really happy. I'm also pretty drunk on really good bourbon. But I also kind of feel bad for you.

I have no idea what was with this team and bad 1st and good 2nd halves but 17 back to ND and won, 21 back to Clemson and were 15 yards from tying, and 24 back tonight. Whatever Fuente is doing at halftime is obviously working. I'd just like for it to not have to happen quite so dramatically.

A rejuvenated Foster defense. A competent offense that can put points on the board. And 10 wins in his first year. Me likey. Me likey a lot.
You should likey. This team is going to be very, very good next year (and they were good this year). One of the more impressive showings of the year, to me, was when they showed up in Chapel Hill in the middle of an active hurricane (and remember, at that time UNC had a ton of momentum) and beat the shit out of them. Like, all of the shit, just beat right out.
 

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I am convinced that there are, at best, 4 people in the US who understand the PI rules in their entirety.
I think it would help if along with the rule books the officials manuals were publicly available. It would help announcers too. For example, ALL PI fouls have to be put into one of the following categories:
For OPI:
1) Blocking downfield (picks)
2) Shoving or pushing off
3) Driving through a defender (Gronk category)
4) Receiver turns a defender

DPI:
1) Early contact while not playing the ball
2) Playing through the back of the receiver
3) Defender grabs and restricts the receiver
4) Defender places an arm bar on the receiver
5) Defender cuts off / ride the receiver out of bounds
6) Defenders hooks the receiver with his arm and turns him.

If it's not any of those explicitly, it's not PI.