Yeah. It was fun having four shitty years of baseball that rocketed them down to fourth out of four teams in the region
Of course it only works if you pony up more than the team who gets the young talent. They came up short with Yamamoto, let’s see if they can snag Soto. But being in the mix on a young talent is enough for 25 posters here.
Yes, I do recognize that lots of folks on the board were saying as much, and recognize that I was more cynical about Henry.
If we're going to dream, throw Mayer, Teel, and Casas in there too. If all of those guys somehow hit it'd be ridiculous. And RF is likely going to be a decent bat, too.
Yeah I’m not buying any of the spin if the don’t sign him. You either get the guy signed or you don’t. Almost don’t count.
I suspect Wilyer gone if Soto signed, as part of package for Crochet or other arm. And/or Yoshida gone, too ...
The only thing he denied was that there was a deal agreed to. Passan did not refute that the reported offer was made
Yeah, totally get that.
Since we're playing the "if everything goes right" game-
I’m talking about the last five years and yes they are pitchers.
The last 3 seasons they finished 18th, tied for 19th and tied for 17th overall in wins while playing a tougher schedule than almost anyone. Even if you ignore that the 4th year in that subset they were really good yes that's by definition mediocre.
The yankees havent had a sub 80 win season in 30 years (had two in the early 90s). The Dodgers havent had a sub 80 win season since 2005 and you have to go back to the 90s to find the next one. For large market teams, 78 wins is and should be considered a shitty season. 2024 is arguably mediocre, but realistically id peg that line for large market teams at the mid 80s. Its pretty damn easy to get to 90 with a top 3 revenue base so long as ownership is interested and management competent.
You’re right. They’ve been awesome. I’m not sure what I was thinking!
Yes every team is either shitty or awesome, there's no in between
Good for us the Red Sox have been shitty so that fits into your weird binary choice!
A person who would have some knowledge, not a high ranking person by any stretch.
The amount of copium on this board is off the charts.
Dont forget that the entire plan was to not spend for 4 offseasons because they were waiting for Soto to make free agency. If our front office and ownership was able to tell the future like that I would have thought we’d have much more free agent steals
I get what you’re saying but they’ve been last place in their division 3 out of 4 years. Thats objectively bad. Even if the AL East is great
Yankee stadium is in New York. As former NYC resident I can assure you he will pay NYC tax. I paid it when I lived in Southern Ct
I guess it is in the eye of the beholder. I think they were a mess, but it is probably more healthy to have an optimistic view.
I’m not saying it was brilliant, and I’m certainly not saying it worked, I am just saying that it wasn’t “this ownership team sucks now after 4 world championships in 15 years and now are super cheap!”.
They decided to stock the farm and not extend financially on a potential 3rd place finish. Farm is looking very good. Finances have been reset. Now it’s time to flex their financial strength and/or leverage assets in trades to move the process forward.
Unless he goes for $650M. All in all, this team needs to truly throw down the gauntlet again at some point for a player above the Story/Yoshida caliber. Being kinda sorta close isn't good enough anymore. If he walks away from more money from us, then for sure - we did what we could.
The problem is I don’t think there’s a world where Steve Cohen allows himself to not be the guy making the highest offer. I think if Soto is going to sign with the Red Sox, it’ll have to mean him taking however much less than the Mets are offering. which is I why I still think he ends up a met but who knows, could obviously be wrong.
His accountant is right and does not suck
Everything we are being fed is the Mets are going to beat every offer. If the Sox offer $600m that absolutely (to me) shows they are committed to spend big… but only for a super young, elite player.
If that’s the excuse, it will always be someone. Whether it’s the Mets, Yankees, Dodgers, Cubs, etc. going all out while we just try our darndest and aw shucks there’s other rich owners too.
