Boston’s taxing pursuit of Juan Soto is over. (Mets)

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I'm trying to imagine how happy I'd be if I won the lottery for $700MM. And then trying to imagine how much much much happier I'd be if I won the lottery for $765MM.
 

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The offseason is over already? Damn that cheapskate John Henry for not going to $770mm with no deferrals!

The MFYs now have a big hole in their lineup that won't be filled by anybody nearly as good as Juan Soto. That's a gain.
I don’t care how close they came. They didn’t get the player. If Dan Duquette didn’t sign Manny, do they win in 2004 and 2007? You win with stars, and the Sox lack star power.
 

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From a team-building standpoint, signing Soto for close to $50M only makes sense if you have a lot of cheap and good young talent in the pipeline. As we do.

Soto is going to be Trout 2.0 while on the Mets, tying his fortunes to Francisco Lindor and ... Brandon Nimmo?
 

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That’s just bullshit. It says they had a number they weren’t willing to go beyond. You seriously think they spent weeks going to 700 million to impress fan fest? It’s not all about you.
The question is, why did they think that Cohen wouldn’t blow their offer out of the water?

And I don’t think anyone thinks it’s all about them. That’s a bullshit thing to add to appear superior. Be better
 

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That’s just bullshit. It says they had a number they weren’t willing to go beyond. You seriously think they spent weeks going to 700 million to impress fan fest? It’s not all about you.
It could also be possible that Sox would have pushed past the 700M but at some point they realized that Cohen indeed was not going to be topped so they had to draw the line somewhere
 

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I mean, the Sox can say any number at this point. No one with knowledge of the actual number has any incentive to correct it. I don't buy that they went to $700m, but I guess anything is possible.
This has been reported several times over the last several days even before he signed. It's been well documented that the Red Sox were a serious player.

What do you think is the real number? Regardless of what you say, it's well beyond what he's really worth.
 

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Maybe better for the After Soto thread but the Sox could now blow away the Fangraphs crowd sourced projections for all of Burnes, Fried, *and* Teoscar and still come in like $250m below the Soto contract.
 

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With Soto off the board, the Red Sox need to pivot and focus on the major task at hand - cash in on the abundance of left-handed bats and add to the starting rotation and bullpen.
 

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At least we still have the Japanese Juan Soto and the Mini Juan Soto.
I don’t think you should get off that easy.

you’ve posted that the Sox FO have not done much because of Soto. 4 years of no movement because they knew they could get Soto because of the Papi connection.

They didn’t get him. What do you say now? You love to call out any reporter who dare say anything negative about the Sox.

I’ll be honest and say that your posts fucking infuriate me because they are the definition of bootlicking (trust me I am one of many). You were colossally fucking wrong. You pissed on anyone who had the cojones to say that the Sox wouldn’t get Soto. I need way more of a mea culpa from you than a joke about Sotos
 

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$765m to me
I don’t think you should get off that easy.

you’ve posted that the Sox FO have not done much because of Soto. 4 years of no movement because they knew they could get Soto because of the Papi connection.

They didn’t get him. What do you say now? You love to call out any reporter who dare say anything negative about the Sox.

I’ll be honest and say that your posts fucking infuriate me because they are the definition of bootlicking (trust me I am one of many). You were colossally fucking wrong. You pissed on anyone who had the cojones to say that the Sox wouldn’t get Soto. I need way more of a mea culpa from you than a joke about Sotos
Who needs your lecture? Who needs to explain to you?
 

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I don’t think you should get off that easy.

you’ve posted that the Sox FO have not done much because of Soto. 4 years of no movement because they knew they could get Soto because of the Papi connection.

They didn’t get him. What do you say now? You love to call out any reporter who dare say anything negative about the Sox.

I’ll be honest and say that your posts fucking infuriate me because they are the definition of bootlicking (trust me I am one of many). You were colossally fucking wrong. You pissed on anyone who had the cojones to say that the Sox wouldn’t get Soto. I need way more of a mea culpa from you than a joke about Sotos
It might be time to step away from the keyboard, chief.
 

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For Breslow the work begins now.

Add a top half of the rotation starter, a high leverage bullpen arm and a RH bat.

Lots of ways to improve on last season’s record and get in to the playoffs.
 

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The question is, why did they think that Cohen wouldn’t blow their offer out of the water?

And I don’t think anyone thinks it’s all about them. That’s a bullshit thing to add to appear superior. Be better
They knew the Mets and the Yankees were totally in on getting Soto. They must have gotten some feeling that Soto might take a disount to play in Boston. Otherwise, there really wasn't much of a reason to get involved in the bidding. I am assuming 65 million was too big of a gap to make up for any other factors. That said, as unlikely as it would be for Soto to turn into a bust a few years down the road, I don't think the Red Sox ownership could recover from it if it happened. It was just too big for them. The old saying about gambling only as much as you are comfortable losing applies here. For Cohen, he wont lose a minute of sleep.

Let's move on to the real offseason. The Yankees are a weaker team tonight and the Red Sox have a ton of talent coming up and plenty of options on the market to improve the team.
 

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They knew the Mets and the Yankees were totally in on getting Soto. They must have gotten some feeling that Soto might take a disount to play in Boston. Otherwise, there really wasn't much of a reason to get involved in the bidding. I am assuming 65 million was too big of a gap to make up for any other factors. That said, as unlikely as it would be for Soto to turn into a bust a few years down the road, I don't think the Red Sox ownership could recover from it if it happened. It was just too big for them. The old saying about gambling only as much as you are comfortable losing applies here. For Cohen, he wont lose a minute of sleep.

Let's move on to the real offseason. The Yankees are a weaker team tonight and the Red Sox have a ton of talent coming up and plenty of options on the market to improve the team.
Why are we saying the $65m gap?

What makes anyone thing Cohen wouldn’t have added another $65m?
 

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$765m to me

Who needs your lecture? Who needs to explain to you?
I’ve been here for 25 years . You are 100% the worst poster I have ever seen here. I messaged it to you personally, I’ve posted it here. Please leave, there’s nothing redeeming about your posts
 

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True. Either way, you can't keep going. There is an end point. It doesn't then mean that it was all theater.
I think that Henry realized that Cohen was not going to be outbid for Soto. I said this at the beginning of this that there was extra motivation for Cohen to take Soto from the Yankees. Cohen has to make his mark and this was his white whale. Henry extended pretty far but at some point when you’re up against an owner worth $20 billion and him not wanting to lose, you have to tip your cap and move on.
 

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I don’t think you should get off that easy.

you’ve posted that the Sox FO have not done much because of Soto. 4 years of no movement because they knew they could get Soto because of the Papi connection.

They didn’t get him. What do you say now? You love to call out any reporter who dare say anything negative about the Sox.

I’ll be honest and say that your posts fucking infuriate me because they are the definition of bootlicking (trust me I am one of many). You were colossally fucking wrong. You pissed on anyone who had the cojones to say that the Sox wouldn’t get Soto. I need way more of a mea culpa from you than a joke about Sotos
Maybe go to bed, man?
 

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The offseason’s not over yet <— you are now here (x6)
Teams don’t win games on paper
Teams don’t miss the playoffs in April
Let’s see where they are at the All Star Break
The roster will be very different after the trade deadline
This is a multi-year rebuild, give Bloom Breslow the off-season to show what he can do
 

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Fine. 800 is absurd and the Sox shouldn't have offered it.

Is this what is going to happen with every premier FA going forward? Soto is one of the best in baseball and is only 26. If there was a time to get crazy then this was it. Feels like the past few years we get reports the Sox are in whoever, only to find out their offer was never going to get it done.
 

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Why are we saying the $65m gap?

What makes anyone thing Cohen wouldn’t have added another $65m?
The report are the Sox were about 700 million. But lest there be any doubt, no matter what the exact gap was, Cohen was not going to be denied. There was nothing the Red Sox could have really done here, as if they went to a number Cohen felt uncomfortable with, you know you are playing with fire, and probably better rethink things.
 

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Fine. 800 is absurd and the Sox shouldn't have offered it.

Is this what is going to happen with every premier FA going forward? Soto is one of the best in baseball and is only 26. If there was a time to get crazy then this was it. Feels like the past few years we get reports the Sox are in whoever, only to find out their offer was never going to get it done.
Cohen would have offered soto a billion dollars. There was no outbidding a determined billionaire hellbent on upstageing the yankees
 

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You seem upset?
the only thing I am upset about is that you continue to post and make any board you contribute on worse. I will repeat myself and say that you add absolutely nothing to anything. But keep being glib about how little you add.
 

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I just hope Boras and/or Soto send a gift basket or something to the Curt Flood descendants