I don’t care how close they came. They didn’t get the player. If Dan Duquette didn’t sign Manny, do they win in 2004 and 2007? You win with stars, and the Sox lack star power.The offseason is over already? Damn that cheapskate John Henry for not going to $770mm with no deferrals!
The MFYs now have a big hole in their lineup that won't be filled by anybody nearly as good as Juan Soto. That's a gain.
That’s just bullshit. It says they had a number they weren’t willing to go beyond. You seriously think they spent weeks going to 700 million to impress fan fest? It’s not all about you.The Red Sox offered a guy 65 million less than he signed for. It's not a real offer. It's fake. It's for PR to say WE TRIED!
Sox can tell Fried the Yankees just got worse. But the numbers need to be aggressive.I would be pretty shocked if the Sox hand out $700M in contracts to non-Soto FAs. But now it gets interesting. Fried and Burnes still there and would represent major upgrades. But now the Yankees have a ton of money to spend…
What's 65 million amongst friends?I'm trying to imagine how happy I'd be if I won the lottery for $700MM. And then trying to imagine how much much much happier I'd be if I won the lottery for $765MM.
The question is, why did they think that Cohen wouldn’t blow their offer out of the water?That’s just bullshit. It says they had a number they weren’t willing to go beyond. You seriously think they spent weeks going to 700 million to impress fan fest? It’s not all about you.
It could also be possible that Sox would have pushed past the 700M but at some point they realized that Cohen indeed was not going to be topped so they had to draw the line somewhereThat’s just bullshit. It says they had a number they weren’t willing to go beyond. You seriously think they spent weeks going to 700 million to impress fan fest? It’s not all about you.
Six could use that money and sign Fried, Burnes, Teoscar and Tanner Scott and I would be happier than if they signed Soto and Chapman and that was allSox can tell Fried the Yankees just got worse. But the numbers need to be aggressive.
This has been reported several times over the last several days even before he signed. It's been well documented that the Red Sox were a serious player.I mean, the Sox can say any number at this point. No one with knowledge of the actual number has any incentive to correct it. I don't buy that they went to $700m, but I guess anything is possible.
Him turning out to be a turnip is a small silver lining, would hate to have to pay attention to anything he says going forward.Anyone who bought into Mick deserves what they got
I don’t think you should get off that easy.At least we still have the Japanese Juan Soto and the Mini Juan Soto.
This would be the only way to save the day.Too late to talk Cohen into taking Chapman too?
Who needs your lecture? Who needs to explain to you?I don’t think you should get off that easy.
you’ve posted that the Sox FO have not done much because of Soto. 4 years of no movement because they knew they could get Soto because of the Papi connection.
They didn’t get him. What do you say now? You love to call out any reporter who dare say anything negative about the Sox.
I’ll be honest and say that your posts fucking infuriate me because they are the definition of bootlicking (trust me I am one of many). You were colossally fucking wrong. You pissed on anyone who had the cojones to say that the Sox wouldn’t get Soto. I need way more of a mea culpa from you than a joke about Sotos
Yah why wait to see what happens when we can just doom post like childrenThis would be the only way to save the day.
Not really a surprise outcome here. I fear we will remain discount rack FA shoppers, but I guess we shall see.
It might be time to step away from the keyboard, chief.I don’t think you should get off that easy.
you’ve posted that the Sox FO have not done much because of Soto. 4 years of no movement because they knew they could get Soto because of the Papi connection.
They didn’t get him. What do you say now? You love to call out any reporter who dare say anything negative about the Sox.
I’ll be honest and say that your posts fucking infuriate me because they are the definition of bootlicking (trust me I am one of many). You were colossally fucking wrong. You pissed on anyone who had the cojones to say that the Sox wouldn’t get Soto. I need way more of a mea culpa from you than a joke about Sotos
I’ll do it when you do it, hossIt might be time to step away from the keyboard, chief.
Can someone translate this into English? Google doesn't have a Mick to English dictionary built in, and the actual search results are probably racist.In case you all are worried about Mick, he stands by his reporting
View: https://twitter.com/BeyondAvgMick/status/1865961596406882397
They knew the Mets and the Yankees were totally in on getting Soto. They must have gotten some feeling that Soto might take a disount to play in Boston. Otherwise, there really wasn't much of a reason to get involved in the bidding. I am assuming 65 million was too big of a gap to make up for any other factors. That said, as unlikely as it would be for Soto to turn into a bust a few years down the road, I don't think the Red Sox ownership could recover from it if it happened. It was just too big for them. The old saying about gambling only as much as you are comfortable losing applies here. For Cohen, he wont lose a minute of sleep.The question is, why did they think that Cohen wouldn’t blow their offer out of the water?
And I don’t think anyone thinks it’s all about them. That’s a bullshit thing to add to appear superior. Be better
True. Either way, you can't keep going. There is an end point. It doesn't then mean that it was all theater.It could also be possible that Sox would have pushed past the 700M but at some point they realized that Cohen indeed was not going to be topped so they had to draw the line somewhere
Why are we saying the $65m gap?They knew the Mets and the Yankees were totally in on getting Soto. They must have gotten some feeling that Soto might take a disount to play in Boston. Otherwise, there really wasn't much of a reason to get involved in the bidding. I am assuming 65 million was too big of a gap to make up for any other factors. That said, as unlikely as it would be for Soto to turn into a bust a few years down the road, I don't think the Red Sox ownership could recover from it if it happened. It was just too big for them. The old saying about gambling only as much as you are comfortable losing applies here. For Cohen, he wont lose a minute of sleep.
Let's move on to the real offseason. The Yankees are a weaker team tonight and the Red Sox have a ton of talent coming up and plenty of options on the market to improve the team.
Go right now Craig.Six could use that money and sign Fried, Burnes, Teoscar and Tanner Scott and I would be happier than if they signed Soto and Chapman and that was all
I’ve been here for 25 years . You are 100% the worst poster I have ever seen here. I messaged it to you personally, I’ve posted it here. Please leave, there’s nothing redeeming about your posts$765m to me
Who needs your lecture? Who needs to explain to you?
I think that Henry realized that Cohen was not going to be outbid for Soto. I said this at the beginning of this that there was extra motivation for Cohen to take Soto from the Yankees. Cohen has to make his mark and this was his white whale. Henry extended pretty far but at some point when you’re up against an owner worth $20 billion and him not wanting to lose, you have to tip your cap and move on.True. Either way, you can't keep going. There is an end point. It doesn't then mean that it was all theater.
Maybe go to bed, man?I don’t think you should get off that easy.
you’ve posted that the Sox FO have not done much because of Soto. 4 years of no movement because they knew they could get Soto because of the Papi connection.
They didn’t get him. What do you say now? You love to call out any reporter who dare say anything negative about the Sox.
I’ll be honest and say that your posts fucking infuriate me because they are the definition of bootlicking (trust me I am one of many). You were colossally fucking wrong. You pissed on anyone who had the cojones to say that the Sox wouldn’t get Soto. I need way more of a mea culpa from you than a joke about Sotos
You seem upset?I’ve been here for 25 years . You are 100% the worst poster I have ever seen here. I messaged it to you personally, I’ve posted it here. Please leave, there’s nothing redeeming about your posts
The report are the Sox were about 700 million. But lest there be any doubt, no matter what the exact gap was, Cohen was not going to be denied. There was nothing the Red Sox could have really done here, as if they went to a number Cohen felt uncomfortable with, you know you are playing with fire, and probably better rethink things.Why are we saying the $65m gap?
What makes anyone thing Cohen wouldn’t have added another $65m?
Cohen would have offered soto a billion dollars. There was no outbidding a determined billionaire hellbent on upstageing the yankeesFine. 800 is absurd and the Sox shouldn't have offered it.
Is this what is going to happen with every premier FA going forward? Soto is one of the best in baseball and is only 26. If there was a time to get crazy then this was it. Feels like the past few years we get reports the Sox are in whoever, only to find out their offer was never going to get it done.
the only thing I am upset about is that you continue to post and make any board you contribute on worse. I will repeat myself and say that you add absolutely nothing to anything. But keep being glib about how little you add.You seem upset?
Yeah this is the team I'm on. Two top of the rotation arms, consolidate the IF depth a bit in a trade and a top of the order RH bat. Let's go.Go right now Craig.
1. Fried
2. Crochet
3. Teoscar
You just saved $700m.
Got it. Sleep well.the only thing I am upset about is that you continue to post and make any board you contribute on worse. I will repeat myself and say that you add absolutely nothing to anything. But keep being glib about how little you add.