Boston’s taxing pursuit of Juan Soto is over. (Mets)
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Of course it wasn’t. And it didn’t matter who he played for. He was going to the team that offered the most money. Just like every significant free agent does, especially one that hires Boras.
As for the idea that we should somehow applaud the Sox for being “competitive” in the process? None of that matters. You either offer the most money and get the player or you don’t. Being competitive gets you nothing.
Well, the Yankees just got worse and it didn’t cost the Sox a penny…and Soto is in the NL. Not the worst outcome.
I have never been so happy to miss out on a free agent. Congrats to Soto and good luck to the Mets.
It's a legit offer. Can't say they werent real players for a while. I figured Papi could bridge a few million. Not 65.
hey. i’m a nobody here. but going hard for a guy does matter. not going too much for 1 guy also matters. good for them for not ignoring their future. $750+ is too much today and will be later
I’m so glad this is over. I never thought the Sox would sign him. Now we can move on to addressing the real issues with this team.
The offseason is over already? Damn that cheapskate John Henry for not going to $770mm with no deferrals!
The MFYs now have a big hole in their lineup that won't be filled by anybody nearly as good as Juan Soto. That's a gain.
I’m mad that we didn’t end up with a generational hitter. I couldn’t give a fuck about what we offered. We didn’t make the best offer to get a major impact player.
The only way to prove that the FO is serious about spending again is to top the richest contract in sports history!
Considering you don’t know at what point the Mets / Yanks upped their offers, how much of the Yanks / Sox offers were deferrals and / or bonuses, etc., this is a pretty interesting take.
On top of that, the Red Sox offering the largest contract in sports history to a player being perceived as “so shocked”, is a pretty interesting take as well.
The Red Sox offered a guy 65 million less than he signed for. It's not a real offer. It's fake. It's for PR to say WE TRIED!
I've said this several times, but 15 years/ $700 million would have been an insane overpay. Onto Burnes, Fried, and others
I feel kinda bad for the people who bought seasons during Saturday’s open house expecting him to come here.
You can’t be mad
However, it’s very fair to question the strategy of only going after “unicorn” free agents and then being surprised when other teams blow the budget
He’s a very very good hitter. One of them. In baseball. We didn’t make the best offer because someone beat us.
We don’t need Juan Soto to win a title. My fucking God.
There’s still a lot more offseason to go. If we’re in March and we didn’t land anyone of consequence then believe me, I’ll have a pitchfork in hand.
But not getting Soto? Who cares.
If he really liked the Sox he would have taken a 65M haircut - that's less than 10% of the contract - his family is all set for hundreds of years either way
Sox could have gone to 750 but that wasn't going to be enough either, maybe not even 800 if Cohen always got a chance to respond
Sox could have gone to 750 but that wasn't going to be enough either, maybe not even 800 if Cohen always got a chance to respond
Still less of an overpay than what was given on past era to Panda and Hanley and others
this is elite talent in his prime
This is where I’m at. Do something substantial to improve this club in free agency for 2025.
Same people mad they didn’t go further are the same who would get mad when they stick because they spent all their money on one player. $700 was an overpay, but I would’ve been okay with it. $765 is nuts.
Move on. Sign some pitching.
In case you all are worried about Mick, he stands by his reporting
View: https://twitter.com/BeyondAvgMick/status/1865961596406882397
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For 50 million you should be able to get 6 war with less long term risk (1 of Burnes Fried and Toscear)
I said this in my Brad Pitt we can recreate him in the aggregate voice
I said this in my Brad Pitt we can recreate him in the aggregate voice
I mean, the Sox can say any number at this point. No one with knowledge of the actual number has any incentive to correct it. I don't buy that they went to $700m, but I guess anything is possible.
I would be pretty shocked if the Sox hand out $700M in contracts to non-Soto FAs. But now it gets interesting. Fried and Burnes still there and would represent major upgrades. But now the Yankees have a ton of money to spend…
Clearly they were just feigning interest. -sarcasm-
But this is a pretty good outcome. The Sox aren't hurt one little bit by not getting Soto. The Yankees are hurt massively, as he was easily their second best player and now he's gone and they have no easy way of replacing his production. The Mets spent a fortune, but (a) that will rankle Yankee fans who now have to see him go crazy in their city but not for their team, and (b) who cares - it's the Mets. They've still got to get through the Braves and Dodgers and Brewers and such, and even if they do, who cares.
Boston can now turn their full attention to solving real needs, knowing that they are willing to spend. Or at least I think they are. Maybe it was just for Soto. Who knows.
Over 15 years, it’s only an additional $4.3M per year. Is $765M really “nuts” compared to $700M over the length of that long a contract?
In that world, the Red Sox would have been “on the hook” for 700 million if Soto “called their bluff.” Seems like a weird way to do business.
Sometimes things are straightforward. One team was willing to go to 700. One was willing to go to 765. One was willing to go to 800 and they won.