Boston’s taxing pursuit of Juan Soto is over. (Mets)

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If they don't get Soto, I'm not sure I want them to do anything else on offense aside from finding a real life MLB catcher.
Wouldn't we need a RHH bat still? We aren't just replacing O'Neill with Anthony, unless he really forces things. In fairness, he hasn't had much of a split in the minors. Still asking too much though until proven otherwise.
[and yes, I realize Soto is a LHH but he crushes lefties anyway. We don't literally need RHHs, we just need to start crushing LHPs.]
 

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I looked at OPS+, which is preferable to unadjusted ERA. But their road ERA -- which is actually 3.84 for Kirby per bRef, and Gilbert's 3.69-- I am totally fine with. Gilbert's OPS+ away is 104, with 9 k/9 and Kirby's is 112. That is what these guys are doing at a young age in parks they aren't comfortable pitching in. That's their floor.
I'm getting different numbers from ESPN. Weird.
And good point. I'd like to have either of them. I'm just not sure that there's a Duran sized difference between either of them and Cutter (which is basically what you're saying if you like a Duran and Cutter for either of them trade).
 

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I'm getting different numbers from ESPN. Weird.
And good point. I'd like to have either of them. I'm just not sure that there's a Duran sized difference between either of them and Cutter (which is basically what you're saying if you like a Duran and Cutter for either of them trade).
It would be a gutsy trade on both ends, for sure! Really have to nut up for that, as they say.

I'd love it since I live in Seattle and Duran would be sensational here. Also the relative scarcity of SP WAR vs. position player WAR makes it a fit.
 
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Dodgers reportedly close to resigning Teoscar and Yankees now exploring Adames and Fried. Seemingly good for our Soto chances, but potentially means we could whiff on all the big boys (Burnes would still be out there).

I wouldn't necessarily hate running it back on offense with top prospects joining when they're ready, but we NEED more high quality starting pitching if we're going to be taken seriously.
 

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Dodgers reportedly close to resigning Teoscar and Yankees now exploring Adames and Fried. Seemingly good for our Soto chances, but potentially means we could whiff on all the big boys (Burnes would still be out there).

I wouldn't necessarily hate running it back on offense with top prospects joining when they're ready, but we NEED more high quality starting pitching if we're going to be taken seriously.
I have to imagine this would be part of the team’s plans and a feature of their presentation to Soto — if he signs with the Sox I have to imagine he would have been convinced the team has a plan to acquire high-level SPs, I doubt the money will be wildly different enough for him to sign here if he doesn’t believe the team can contend.

And as noted before, if Soto is in the OF, the Sox will have a glut of OFs to trade for pitching — an Abreu+ for Crochet trade will make even more sense.
 

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I'm getting different numbers from ESPN. Weird.
And good point. I'd like to have either of them. I'm just not sure that there's a Duran sized difference between either of them and Cutter (which is basically what you're saying if you like a Duran and Cutter for either of them trade).
I think there is something weird and subtle going on with the T-Mobile Park park factors, but I'm not really sure what. It might mean that different sites with slightly different methodologies (e.g., how long they do a rolling average for) get really different results.

That 122 one-year park factor for strikeouts in 2024 is at once pretty nuts and a big departure from past seasons (105 is more typical) and suggests that whatever is going on has more to do with the batter's eye or visibility than the park's dimensions or the marine layer.

It's like T-Mobile (122) has suddenly become as extreme a park for strikeouts than Fenway is for doubles (125ish, most years).

I plotted the last 25 years of that factor from savant. Wheeee!

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Looking into this, I honestly don't think I would trade a big package for any of their pitchers unless I was really sure I knew what was going on with that.
 

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Dodgers reportedly close to resigning Teoscar and Yankees now exploring Adames and Fried. Seemingly good for our Soto chances, but potentially means we could whiff on all the big boys (Burnes would still be out there).

I wouldn't necessarily hate running it back on offense with top prospects joining when they're ready, but we NEED more high quality starting pitching if we're going to be taken seriously.
This account makes a good point in regards to the two reports on Fried and Adames from the Yankees.

It’s most likely an agency leverage play.

View: https://twitter.com/hotstoveintel/status/1864507522423402876?s=46
 

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Yankees get Adames and Fried.
Dodgers get Teo and Snell.
Mets get Soto.
Giants get Burns.

Red Sox resign Pivetta and O’Neill.
“can’t believe we got’m”!
 

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Yankees get Adames and Fried.
Dodgers get Teo and Snell.
Mets get Soto.
Giants get Burns.

Red Sox resign Pivetta and O’Neill.
“can’t believe we got’m”!
Who on the list do the Sox really need, or do we actually want though? After Soto it’s just pitching. Adames would require a major IF shakeup. I don’t think Teo is an option after they passed on him last year. That leaves Fried & Burns, and after that reclamation projects like Buehler, or trades.

Missing out on Fried would suck; I think they should be aggressively trying to sign him now, regardless of Soto.

I don’t like Burns and continually declining peripherals. He looks like someone teams are going to be wary of and whose FA could drag out as a mega deal fails to materialize. If he winds up on the Sox I can see it taking awhile as he number of years comes down.
 

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Who on the list do the Sox really need, or do we actually want though? After Soto it’s just pitching. Adames would require a major IF shakeup. I don’t think Teo is an option after they passed on him last year. That leaves Fried & Burns, and after that reclamation projects like Buehler, or trades.

Missing out on Fried would suck; I think they should be aggressively trying to sign him now, regardless of Soto.

I don’t like Burns and continually declining peripherals. He looks like someone teams are going to be wary of and whose FA could drag out as a mega deal fails to materialize. If he winds up on the Sox I can see it taking awhile as he number of years comes down.
If they don't land Soto, they do need a RH bat with some thump. Soto would work in that regard even as a lefty because he mashes LHP too (.966 ops vs LHP this past season).

I could see the Sox losing out on all those guys (though I am not into signing Adames so I wouldn't care too much about that - I think their IF is fine).
 

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Who on the list do the Sox really need, or do we actually want though? After Soto it’s just pitching. Adames would require a major IF shakeup. I don’t think Teo is an option after they passed on him last year. That leaves Fried & Burns, and after that reclamation projects like Buehler, or trades.

Missing out on Fried would suck; I think they should be aggressively trying to sign him now, regardless of Soto.

I don’t like Burns and continually declining peripherals. He looks like someone teams are going to be wary of and whose FA could drag out as a mega deal fails to materialize. If he winds up on the Sox I can see it taking awhile as he number of years comes down.
Yeah- I was going for the teeth gnashing as that scenario unfolds. I definitely don’t support the Move Devers to First voices. I think they just need to add Fried. And WANT them to add Soto.
 

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Yankees get Adames and Fried.
Dodgers get Teo and Snell.
Mets get Soto.
Giants get Burns.

Red Sox resign Pivetta and O’Neill.
“can’t believe we got’m”!
I would think we would sign Eovaldi. You could still trade for another pitcher and it would be a successful offseason.
But it would not be a good look (which doesn't matter if you win)
 

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If they don't land Soto, they do need a RH bat with some thump.
I remain unconvinced that this is actually a need, with healthier years from our regular infield (including Devers, who had been an above average to excellent hitter vs LHP for three years running), a RHH replacement for McGuire, likely not a repeat of a reverse split from Rafaela and whatever we get from Campbell. The lineup doesn't have the concentrated fireworks of O'Neill vs LHP, but it's much longer.
 

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Mitch on X says that the Red Sox are telling their shareholders about a huge purchase - Soto. I guess we got him.

so, what’s next?
 

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Mitch on X says that the Red Sox are telling their shareholders about a huge purchase - Soto. I guess we got him.

so, what’s next?
Maybe, maybe not? A huge purchase could be Burnes, for example. Not trying to over-analyze the hell out of a very general statement, but just thinking that Burnes would fit the bill. Fried might as well, too?
 

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I remain unconvinced that this is actually a need, with healthier years from our regular infield (including Devers, who had been an above average to excellent hitter vs LHP for three years running), a RHH replacement for McGuire, likely not a repeat of a reverse split from Rafaela and whatever we get from Campbell. The lineup doesn't have the concentrated fireworks of O'Neill vs LHP, but it's much longer.
I think if Abreu isn't traded, they have Refsnyder to hit against lefties. Assuming no deals to bring Soto in or bring back O'Neill or Teoscar to "balance" the lineup, it'd likely mean that Anthony is handed the starting LF job. So against tough lefties, you'd see:

Duran
Refsnyder
Devers
Story
Casas
Grissom/Campbell
Wong
Anthony (as has been discussed, showed a good line in the minors against lefties)
Rafaela

That's 5 out of 9 RHH through the lineup and Devers, Casas and Duran (already mentioned Anthony) don't have a terrible line against lefties so it's a very solid lineup there.
Yes... Yoshida has been traded.
 

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Mitch on X says that the Red Sox are telling their shareholders about a huge purchase - Soto. I guess we got him.

so, what’s next?
Maybe they were high bidders on a lot of Larry Lucchino's memorabilia.

More seriously, is it just that Chapman's passed his physical so they might just be making a more formal announcement? Also, is there such a thing as Red Sox shareholders or would that be FSG or their parent company? If so, said huge purchase might be outside of baseball.
 
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I think if Abreu isn't traded, they have Refsnyder to hit against lefties. Assuming no deals to bring Soto in or bring back O'Neill or Teoscar to "balance" the lineup, it'd likely mean that Anthony is handed the starting LF job. So against tough lefties, you'd see:

Duran
Refsnyder
Devers
Story
Casas
Grissom/Campbell
Wong
Anthony (as has been discussed, showed a good line in the minors against lefties)
Rafaela

That's 5 out of 9 RHH through the lineup and Devers, Casas and Duran (already mentioned Anthony) don't have a terrible line against lefties so it's a very solid lineup there.
Yes... Yoshida has been traded.
On the whole that lineup looks good except Ceddanne at the bottom.

Believe it or not he actually had a reverse split last year -- a wrc+ of 82 against RHP and 62 against LHP (in 152 plate appearances). Maybe that's just SSS noise, and maybe he's just a bad hitter. I think and hope that Ceddanne will be relegated to super sub next year.
 

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I think if Abreu isn't traded, they have Refsnyder to hit against lefties. Assuming no deals to bring Soto in or bring back O'Neill or Teoscar to "balance" the lineup, it'd likely mean that Anthony is handed the starting LF job. So against tough lefties, you'd see:

Duran
Refsnyder
Devers
Story
Casas
Grissom/Campbell
Wong
Anthony (as has been discussed, showed a good line in the minors against lefties)
Rafaela

That's 5 out of 9 RHH through the lineup and Devers, Casas and Duran (already mentioned Anthony) don't have a terrible line against lefties so it's a very solid lineup there.
Yes... Yoshida has been traded.
If Romy is still here, he also had a 142 wrc+ against lefties.
 

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If they don't land Soto, they do need a RH bat with some thump. Soto would work in that regard even as a lefty because he mashes LHP too (.966 ops vs LHP this past season).

I could see the Sox losing out on all those guys (though I am not into signing Adames so I wouldn't care too much about that - I think their IF is fine).
The roster penalties for signing a second QO FA in a single offseason are less than signing the first, so I expect the Sox to get two. Soto and Fried seem like the obvious ones. I don't think anyone would be upset about Burnes, who seems likelier to land on the West Coast. Adames, Alonso and Bregman are weirder fits that would require a dramatic overhaul to a lineup and roster that would already be shifting around to accommodate Soto. The rest don't make much sense.

I don't buy that the Yankees are gonna drop big money on Fried, who'd cost them 50% more in 2025 salary than us. They're already pushing $100M in commitments for their rotation between Cole ($36M), Rodón ($27.8), Stroman ($18.5), Cortes ($7.7), and Schmidt ($3.5) and are not about to displace the 2024 ROY in Luis Gil.
 

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Its extremely hard for me to believe that, after coming up short on Soto and on Yammamoto last year, the Sox would then come up with the very large outlays needed to beat out all the other deep pocket teams that lost on Soto (as well as teams that didnt bid on Soto) to acquire two premier FAs (Vlad and Fried) and one very good FA (Teoscar) - especially having been burned on Story and Yoshida.
I agree. I was talking in a hypothetical sense. I THINK something along those lines could in fact be a better allocation of $600m. I DO NOT think the Red Sox will do it. We agree. I think they're a serious contedner for Soto. I don't think they're at serious on Fried or Burnes.

We shall see, but my guess is that with rare talent about to arrive and complement an already very solid -- but not fully constructed -- base, they have to keep going. No Soto means we need a slightly different mix of bats, and with or without him we need starting pitching. It defies all logic that they would be willing to spend a record sum to compete with Soto, but nothing to support any other version of competing this year. With Theo around, it seems a lot more likely that the frustrated chase of a record-setting contracted generational player would just lead to other moves, although I know the 2004 timeline doesn't look the same. Still, this team and these same people know that there is more than one pathway, when your competition window is open. I doubt Theo would have come back if, to hear the talk radio buzz, the Sox were just pretending to compete for players this year so they can save money and make excuses. But of course I don't actually know.

That is my guess / hope as well. I truly don't believe that Kennedy would be stupid enough to make the comments he did, in (what I assume was a one on one interview setting, where he could have asked for things to be stricken from the record or not included at any point) and didn't. It wasn't an off-the cuff answer at a press conference from an entertainment based owner (Werner). It was a thought out response to a direct question in a much different setting. He cannot possibly be a) that out of touch with what the Red Sox will do and b) that dumb. He can't be. He can't be. He can't be. He can't be. (Maybe now I'm just trying to assure myself of this).

But I don't think that means "top of the FA market" either. I think it far more likely means 1) trade and extend and 2) medium term FA deals.

So lets assume they don't land Soto. I don't think the pivot is to Fried, Bregman, Burnes, Alonso.

I think it's 1) try the trade and extend market and if that doesn't work 2) a couple of decent sized deals to good but not elite players. Plenty of routes to take with option two. I'd expect that to be at least one of Hernandez / Santander / CWalker / Kim and then at least one of Eovalid / Flaherty / Severino.

I keep going back and forth, admittedly, on if I think Adames is realistic and in play for Boston. Due to his versatility, and apparent willingness to change positions, I'm going to go with "yes." At least in the scale of Adames I wouldn't be shocked to see them actually signed (call it like a 35% chance). Fried, Burnes, Alonso or Bregman I would be absolutely stunned by.



My fear is that they do just run it back with what they have and the prospects. I don't think what is in house - even on the offensive side - fits together well enough to be a team that contends for the Division and the World Series. Contend for WC2 and WC3, and maybe get one of those once over the next 3 years - sure. Seriously contend for the WS - nope.

(I'm using 3 years because those are the duration of the two horrible contracts on the roster and if they keep thinking just adding prospects to those are going to get it done, I think we're in for a lot of mediocre baseball until those spots open up on the roster).
 

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Friend heard Alex Speier, Ken Rosenthal encouraged him on a Soto Fenway, checked Oppo Power #s(.397/.383/.862/1.2895), recalled Fenway for Ortiz(.310/.407/.587/.994), Mo Vaughn(.326/409..524/.993) and the '79 Fred Lynn(.386/.470/.798/1.167)
 

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Every day I want this to happen more and more badly.

And every day I expect to be Inigo trying to find out the identity of his opponent during the sword fight on the Cliffs of Insanity.

"Get used to disappointment" indeed.
 

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Every day I want this to happen more and more badly.

And every day I expect to be Inigo trying to find out the identity of his opponent during the sword fight on the Cliffs of Insanity.

"Get used to disappointment" indeed.
My name is Logan's dad. You took my Soto. Prepare to die.
 

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Friend heard Alex Speier, Ken Rosenthal encouraged him on a Soto Fenway, checked Oppo Power #s(.397/.383/.862/1.2895), recalled Fenway for Ortiz(.310/.407/.587/.994), Mo Vaughn(.326/409..524/.993) and the '79 Fred Lynn(.386/.470/.798/1.167)
I thought I had a stroke while reading that tweet, then I realized - Gammons.
 

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I thought I had a stroke while reading that tweet, then I realized - Gammons.
Even for Gammons, that one is a doozy. The problem is that it hints at coherence in a way that his more-garbled efforts do not. But when you drill down into it...it's impossible to determine what he's actually saying.

Did Gammons' friend hear that Alex Speier and Ken Rosenthal were somehow able to get time to communicate with Juan Soto...and they encouraged him to come to Fenway because it would suit him statistically?

Or perhaps it's actually saying that these writers were explaining to Juan Soto's friend how Fenway would benefit Soto's production?

Even if we are able to eventually figure out what the hell Gammons is trying to say...how would any of it make any sense in the real world? Do Speier and Rosenthal have access to statistical analysis about park effects at Fenway that Scott Boras does not? Does Juan Soto need anyone at all to explain to him that he'll hit well at Fenway? It has to be that I'm completely missing something because otherwise, this tweet is insane.
 

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Even for Gammons, that one is a doozy. The problem is that it hints at coherence in a way that his more-garbled efforts do not. But when you drill down into it...it's impossible to determine what he's actually saying.

Did Gammons' friend hear that Alex Speier and Ken Rosenthal were somehow able to get time to communicate with Juan Soto...and they encouraged him to come to Fenway because it would suit him statistically?

Or perhaps it's actually saying that these writers were explaining to Juan Soto's friend how Fenway would benefit Soto's production?

Even if we are able to eventually figure out what the hell Gammons is trying to say...how would any of it make any sense in the real world? Do Speier and Rosenthal have access to statistical analysis about park effects at Fenway that Scott Boras does not? Does Juan Soto need anyone at all to explain to him that he'll hit well at Fenway? It has to be that I'm completely missing something because otherwise, this tweet is insane.
I think its saying that Soto's dog walker has been seen scouting routes for afternoon walks in Seaport.
 

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I think there is something weird and subtle going on with the T-Mobile Park park factors, but I'm not really sure what. It might mean that different sites with slightly different methodologies (e.g., how long they do a rolling average for) get really different results.

That 122 one-year park factor for strikeouts in 2024 is at once pretty nuts and a big departure from past seasons (105 is more typical) and suggests that whatever is going on has more to do with the batter's eye or visibility than the park's dimensions or the marine layer.

It's like T-Mobile (122) has suddenly become as extreme a park for strikeouts than Fenway is for doubles (125ish, most years).

I plotted the last 25 years of that factor from savant. Wheeee!

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Looking into this, I honestly don't think I would trade a big package for any of their pitchers unless I was really sure I knew what was going on with that.
Part of a one-year jump would have to be the Mariners' offense and the Mariners' pitching, both being adept re strikeouts. I don't think there were any structural changes. But for the longer term trend, apparently Teoscar Hernandez criticized the visual "batters eye" background last year, on his way out the door. For more: https://www.lookoutlanding.com/2024/7/3/24189022/t-mobile-park-hitters-house-of-horrors-seattle-mariners-pitching-hitting-strikeouts-factors
 

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As the start of baseball’s annual winter meetings fast approaches, there’s a growing sense that free agent outfielder Juan Soto could make his decision in the coming days, perhaps even before the meetings officially begin Monday in Dallas.

A source with knowledge of the process said Thursday that things are “coming to a head.” The Red Sox, along with the New York Yankees, New York Mets, Toronto Blue Jays and perhaps the Los Angeles Dodgers still involved.
Shohei Ohtani signed the biggest contract in baseball history last winter, landing a 10-year, $700 million deal from the Dodgers. But that pact included huge deferrals, lowering the actual, present-day value to somewhere between $438 million (as determined by the Players Association) and $460 million (as calculated by MLB for the purpose of determining the CBT value).

Some — but not all — of the offers submitted to date for Soto have included deferred money.

There were reports Wednesday that Soto would be meeting with teams again before making a final decision, but an industry source said Thursday that wasn’t necessarily true and there are currently no additional meetings scheduled. It remains possible, however, that Soto could meet with teams in Dallas once teams begin to arrive there Sunday.

In Soto’s only face-to-face meeting with Red Sox personnel to date, principal owner John Henry was not present because of other commitments, with ownership represented by team president and CEO Sam Kennedy and team chairman Tom Werner.

Since then, it’s believed that Henry has spoken on several occasions with Soto’s representatives, but has yet to speak with Soto himself.

It’s been reported that Soto has been recruited by a number of Red Sox stars, past and present, in an effort to sell him on signing with Boston and coming to play for the Sox. But one baseball source indicated those reports had been “overblown.”
https://www.masslive.com/redsox/2024/12/red-sox-still-in-running-as-soto-sweepstakes-coming-to-a-head.html
 

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I'm still going to go with the Dodgers somehow finding a way to fit his salary on their team.

I just dont see this Red Sox team giving contracts out over the half billion mark which is what it will probably take to get him. I agree with many here that the Red Sox will most likely be in on everyone but get no one. They will make a few lesser signings and try and paint Giolito as a new piece to the puzzle.
 

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I'm still going to go with the Dodgers somehow finding a way to fit his salary on their team.

I just dont see this Red Sox team giving contracts out over the half billion mark which is what it will probably take to get him. I agree with many here that the Red Sox will most likely be in on everyone but get no one. They will make a few lesser signings and try and paint Giolito as a new piece to the puzzle.
By all credible reports, they have already offered over $600m, which by my math is over a half a billion.
 

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If Henry blows it by not sitting down with him, he deserves the scorn he gets.
How many owners actually do any sitting down with any players for negotiations? I imagine 99.9% of the time it's never. Did anyone other than paid representatives do any of that stuff?
If Soto doesn't pick the Sox, it's probably 100% because some other team offered more. Not because Cohen or Steinbrenner sat down with him. And if they all offered the exact same amount and years and those two DO sit down with him and Henry doesn't... the reason is more likely that he thinks those other teams will have more of a commitment to winning in the future than the Sox do.... and could you blame him?
 

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If Henry blows it by not sitting down with him, he deserves the scorn he gets.
FSG and the sox are pretty much run by Kennedy and others who met with Soto (reportedly) at previous meetings. . IIRC henry is not really the day to day owner anymore.
 

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This was reported in the NY Post-

Soto previously formed very close relationships at stops with owners of the Nationals (Ted Lerner) and Padres (Peter Seidler), and Soto’s friend said he was hoping for the same with Steinbrenner. While it didn’t happen during Soto’s first season in The Bronx, with Steinbrenner mainly using longtime Yankees stars Aaron Judge and Gerrit Cole as clubhouse contacts, Steinbrenner nicely explained at Soto’s California confab that he “didn’t want to disrupt Juan’s routine,” or words to that effect.

While he loved the Judge-led clubhouse, Soto is seeking a strong rapport with whatever owner he’s partnering with for up to the next 15 seasons.
https://nypost.com/2024/11/21/sports/juan-soto-finally-got-what-he-wanted-from-hal-steinbrenner-in-yankees-meeting/