Maybe not, but worth remembering that (if legit) it's 30% higher present day value than any other MLB contract ever.12/600 isn't going to get it done
Maybe not, but worth remembering that (if legit) it's 30% higher present day value than any other MLB contract ever.12/600 isn't going to get it done
I think this is Boras floating it. The Red Sox float stuff out after players sign somewhere else.Yep, feels like the Sox floated this to say see, we tried! Knowing full well that offer is nowhere near close enough to get it done.
thank you for thisMaybe not, but worth remembering that (if legit) it's 30% higher present day value than any other MLB contract ever.
Ok, that's completely fair. You're spot on thereI think this is Boras floating it. The Red Sox float stuff out after players sign somewhere else.
Great ... we can hang a bannerbut this shows interest and engagement
It also feels like this is exactly what the "Henry is cheap" crowd is going to say no matter what the Sox offer if the player signs somewhere else.Yep, feels like the Sox floated this to say see, we tried! Knowing full well that offer is nowhere near close enough to get it done.
The Dodgers don't seem to have any problem spending money. We aren't a poverty franchise.You are not alone.
I may get this post sent to the 'so cheeeep' thread : ) but I 100% doubt the Sox willingness to invest sustainably (in pitching and otherwise) around him, especially should his contract become an albatross. At some point in 15 years that seems likely, but their PhD thesis worthy customized Soto Black Scholes model has that probability (distribution) for them. I've heard observations like "who cares what happens 10 years from now!?!" I know who, Private Equity and Bond Investors who would still be writing a $50m check.
Those were pitchers. Both of whom won World Series! And I don't know what tailspin you're talking about...after Beckett led us to the WS in 07 we won 95 games in 08&09 followed by 89 and 90 win in 10&11. And after Sale led us to the WS in 18 we made the ALCS in 21.The Beckett then Sale contracts were enough to seemingly send them into a years long tailspin where they were more invested in gaslighting the fanbase than bothering to invest in the roster. Those contracts weren't half as onerous (even inflation adjusted) as Soto's could be.
MLBtraderumors has their prediction at 13/600 so 12/600 might well be enough.Yep, feels like the Sox floated this to say see, we tried! Knowing full well that offer is nowhere near close enough to get it done.
That's a given, doesn't matter to those people if the player signs for a dollar more or 100 million more. Sometimes players don't want to sign somewhere. Obviously no clue what Soto would choose if the offers are close though. I'd like to think the Sox personallyIt also feels like this is exactly what the "Henry is cheap" crowd is going to say no matter what the Sox offer if the player signs somewhere else.
We haven’t even heard from the mystery team yet.Ok, that's completely fair. You're spot on there
It would all depend on what they do with their money, if Soto goes elsewhereIt also feels like this is exactly what the "Henry is cheap" crowd is going to say no matter what the Sox offer if the player signs somewhere else.
I’m an Undecided Believer. Make your best pitch.The fight between the “I want to believe!” and “Nothing will make me believe!” crowds is compelling.
Mundane for $50M a year12/600 feels like a relatively mundane AAV for the Mets to match while adding 2-3 years.
Pfft. What does he know.
He’s probably sick of his phone blowing up.Maybe Passan should also enjoy Turkey Day
Thats not denying that the offers reported above are false. Only that no deal was agreed to….
Not mundane for me, mundane for Cohen. That's not so much more than the Judge contract and you're getting 20s years.Mundane for $50M a year
We have different definitions of words my friend
The dog? Sons of Sam Horn, meet Son of Sam.My neighbor's dog is reporting that "Mick" is actually a Passan burner.
Especially when both of those people are in each of usThe fight between the “I want to believe!” and “Nothing will make me believe!” crowds is compelling.
We learn to live, when we learn to giveEspecially when both of those people are in each of us
MIck, after Soto signs with the Mets: "I was right until I was wrong"I think at this point, in the exceedingly unlikely event Mick would ever be wrong, Soto has a moral responsibility to choose Boston and uphold his honor and tenacity:
View: https://twitter.com/beyondavgmick/status/1862239258569838896?s=46&t=11SXTvIYT-tl8b6e7iEUVQ
Sure, but ballplayers would be closer to the Hudson and the GWB, like in Saddle River or Alpine. Not more than a half hour drive when ballplayers would likely be making the drive.
And a few live in Cresskill. And guessing that you mean UPPER Saddle River. Sabathia still lives in Alpine (his son played at a local private HS) and Damon was nearby, a big rental on the corner of Closter Dock and IIRC Anderson (tho he may have also kept a place in the city). A number of others were scattered about the area.Agreed. I know Damon lived in Midtown when he was a Yankee.
To me, the most encouraging note in this tweet storm isn't the money. It's the note from Gomez that Soto and Devers had an hour-long talk. That (if true) signals interest more than the numbers -- which could change a half-dozen times between now and when it's overI believe the offer has been made and is probably close to what's being leaked. And I know that Passan is right and that Soto remains unsigned.
Either way, I feel better about or chances now than I did yesterday. This IS fun.
A 1-2-3-4-5 ofCould you imagine a 1-2-3 of Anthony-Campbell-Soto? Shivers.
Duran would probably be in the front, a top ten mvp type in his own right!Could you imagine a 1-2-3 of Anthony-Campbell-Soto? Shivers.
The old “material change” ruse. Like hitting the Hooper’s Mainline Gambit in Mornington CrescentMIck, after Soto signs with the Mets: "I was right until I was wrong"
Pitino's Law: I was right at the time I said itThe old “material change” ruse. Like hitting the Hooper’s Mainline Gambit in Mornington Crescent
Which is what the Dodgers did. Which is what like 25 people on this board in the last 3-4 years have said they were doing. Focus on building up the farm system, get into a position where you can begin to compete / contend, then pounce on the elite FAs at the top of the market. It’s almost like they had a plan.Well, if they have offered $625 million to Soto, we can't say Henry is cheap. It seems the organizational philosophy is coming into focus: open the vaults for young elite FA players with lots of prime left, and that's kinda it.