BOS-GS-MIA trade: Crawford and Brooks for Anthony and draft picks

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maufman said:
Obvious SSS issues aside, that's a 25% success rate (Powe, Davis, and six scrubs). Not coincidentally, the two hits pre-date KG's arrival, the last time the C's had decent draft position in the second round; if the Philly pick converts to two second rounder, at least one (and probably both) of those picks will be earlier than the C's have picked in recent tears. So your analysis suggests they have at least a 50/50 shot of landing a useful player -- which is probably about the same chance as they'd have with a single 1st rounder in the mid-late teens, albeit with a lesser chance of lucking into someone special.
 
From 2002-2012 (eleven drafts), there's been 69 guys who have been drafted in the 2nd and played 3000 minutes in their career (I picked that kind of arbitrarily; doing the math it is equivalent to 62 full games).
 
Of them...
 
32 went with picks 30-39
28 went with picks 40-49
9 went with picks 50-60
 
So I guess its not so much as the beginning of the round is the best place to pick, but the end of the round is death knell. That means that 9 out of the 121 people who were drafted in that range (7%) manage 62 games worth of ball in their careers.
 

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wutang112878 said:
 
I understand the trade gives them salary relief, but I dont see how it gives them any 'space' or allows them to throw more money at Bynum.  They are still well above the luxury tax threshold.  I am not sure how much, if any, they have left of their tax-payer mid level exception but reducing their salary obligations doesnt increase what they have left of that exception.  If its an internal budget thing, then thats another story but I dont see how $2M in savings is really making a huge difference with their huge tax bill.
Miami has their full tax-payer midlevel exception. It doesn't give Miami more cap space. but if they sign Bynum for something around 3M, the difference between having just Douglas instead of Crawford/Brooks is about 1.8M in salary and another 4.5M in luxury tax penalties. So they basically sold Boston the picks they got back for around 10M bucks(including Anthonys sure to be picked up option next year).
 
The Celtics really got nothing for Crawford/Brooks. They got those picks just for their willingness to pick up 4Mish in extra salary commitments. Crawford/Brooks were just the bookkeepers for the deal.
 

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I love this one:
 
 
2015 second round draft pick from Sacramento
Sacramento's 2015 2nd round pick to Boston protected for selections 31-55 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Sacramento's obligation to Boston will be extinguished) [Boston-Sacramento, 2/17/2009]
 
So unless Sacramento finishes in the top 5, there is no trade/no compensation.  Because mid 2nd round picks are that difficult to give up.
 

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mcpickl said:
Miami has their full tax-payer midlevel exception. It doesn't give Miami more cap space. but if they sign Bynum for something around 3M, the difference between having just Douglas instead of Crawford/Brooks is about 1.8M in salary and another 4.5M in luxury tax penalties. So they basically sold Boston the picks they got back for around 10M bucks(including Anthonys sure to be picked up option next year).
 
The Celtics really got nothing for Crawford/Brooks. They got those picks just for their willingness to pick up 4Mish in extra salary commitments. Crawford/Brooks were just the bookkeepers for the deal.
 
So if its all about minimizing the tax deal, that makes sense.  I forgot that they were in the repeater $10-$15M over luxury tax land where the incremental cost is $3.5 per $ spent, thats just crazy and unsustainable which is awesome. 
 
However if they are shuffling all these deck chairs for Bynum thats just awesome, I wish them nothing but the worst
 

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Miami basically just dumped Anthony so they can make a play at Bynum.

Not sure if this has been covered but like the trade in '04 that netted the Pistons Sheed, I love that Danny doesn't hesitate to help a rival in the near term if he feels it helps the C's over the long term.
 

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Van Everyman said:
Not sure if this has been covered but like the trade in '04 that netted the Pistons Sheed, I love that Danny doesn't hesitate to help a rival in the near term if he feels it helps the C's over the long term.
 
It makes sense right? Is Bynum going to be a factor for Miami when the Celtics become competitive again? Probably not, so why not do it to help out your team? Some people might get upset about them helping the Heat, just because it is the Heat, but Danny is doing a job worrying about the only team that matters; his own.
 

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Lose Remerswaal said:
 
I love this one:
 
 
So unless Sacramento finishes in the top 5, there is no trade/no compensation.  Because mid 2nd round picks are that difficult to give up.
Ainge has done a couple of these with Sacramento.
 
This just falls under the rule that each team needs to receive something in a trade.
 
This one was the Celtics clearing Sam Cassell off their roster, so they paid Sacramento to take him and have to receive something back to make the trade legal. They add the protected second that you will never actually get. He did the same thing with Marquis Daniels.