Blake Griffin to Celts
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Eh, bench big who can rebound a little and hopefully hit a few threes. He’s pretty cooked but I don’t hate him getting 15-20 minutes a game during the regular season.
Veteran minumum per Himmelsbach.
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Adam Himmelsbach: The Celtics have agreed to a one-year deal with Blake Griffin, a league source confirms. Per source, Cs attended Griffin's recent workouts in Los Angeles and saw enough. It's a vet min deal.
I think that means no cap impact.
Didn't have this one on my bingo card.
Probably fine as a regular season bench guy.
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Adam Himmelsbach: The Celtics have agreed to a one-year deal with Blake Griffin, a league source confirms. Per source, Cs attended Griffin's recent workouts in Los Angeles and saw enough. It's a vet min deal.
I think that means no cap impact.
Didn't have this one on my bingo card.
Probably fine as a regular season bench guy.
Later in the season, with TL hopefully back healthy and playing regular minutes, I would tend to agree. Out of the gate? I don’t see how Kornet et al are much better options. He’s going play real minutes in October and November.
He can play a little 5 against backup bigs and he's a little bit less toast than Carmelo, so... sure, perfectly fine signing.
I don't think they're going to have any trouble getting fannies in seats with or without the corpse of Blake Griffin.
According to bball index, Blake was still a pretty good interior defender last year.
Rim contest rate: 83rd percentile
Rim protector: 81st percentile
Post defense: 86th percentile
Screener rim defense: 80th percentile
Rim contest rate: 83rd percentile
Rim protector: 81st percentile
Post defense: 86th percentile
Screener rim defense: 80th percentile
Yeah, he'll get cooked on pick and rolls, but he's a pretty good banger inside and he's a good passer with a credible three point shot. He's fine as a regular season bench piece.
I'll assume that his coming on board at the vet minimum means that he understands he's likely to have a limited role on the team, and thus won't be a distraction if his minutes are limited.
I'm shocked; I guess Brad thought highly enough of Blake for some reason that he wanted to lock Griffin up before he signed with another team. Blake will count $1.8M against the salary cap but will earn $2.9M. As mentioned in the other thread, if the Cs cut Griffin before the year is out, he'll count the entire $2.9M so they'd likely have to attach a draft pick to him if they want to get rid of him for any reason this coming year.
Maybe the thought is that he can bang against the bigger Cs out there (Embiid, etc.) in a way that no one currently on the roster can.
Maybe the thought is that he can bang against the bigger Cs out there (Embiid, etc.) in a way that no one currently on the roster can.
Begarin is in France and plays a different position and they don't know if he is better than Kabengele.
I would think they talked with him and he is ok with whatever playing time he gets and they trust that Griffin will know where to be on offense and defense. This is a regular season signing to eat some minutes. If Blake or any of the guys mentioned are seeing significant time in the playoffs we are toast anyway.
With R Williams expected to miss at least 2-3 months, Blake is probably better fit for the team's bench needs than Begarin, who really still needs some developmental minutes.
The question is whether he's a better fit than last year's Enes Kanter. And I don't see the Celtics surrendering a first to dump him; they would take the cap hit if it came to that. But there's probably no need unless there is a major mid-season trade; the 15th spot on the roster isn't going to be a worry in the playoffs.
There will be times when Griffin sucks. There will be times when he makes a nice contribution. He's a bench guy, nothing more, nothing less. Hopefully he is useful but obviously I don't see him getting any real minutes - barring emergency - in the playoffs. Which is just fine.
Begarin is a guard who is signed to a contract in France.
Kabengele... yeah Blake is probably better.. also Kabengele is on a 2 way so they can have both.
Right. You need minutes and bodies to fill those minutes throughout the regular season. Some games he won’t play. Some 20+ minutes. He’s fine given the team’s needs and injuries.
I don’t understand the hate for this signing. Of course Griffin is a shadow of his former self, and was overrated at his peak. But Brad isn’t paying for that guy; he’s paying for a big who’s available for the league minimum. Is Blake better than, say, Enes Kanter? In my view, very much so. It’s a problem if Blake is playing significant playoff minutes, but this is a nice depth signing.
Edit: I left this post open in draft form for a while before posting, and several other posters weighed in during that time. Turns out I wasn’t pushing back on the main narrative in the thread as much as I thought.
Edit: I left this post open in draft form for a while before posting, and several other posters weighed in during that time. Turns out I wasn’t pushing back on the main narrative in the thread as much as I thought.
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I mean I guess that Japanese robot that you can bolt to the floor in one spot to shoot threes is not allowed to play.
This transaction probably has more potential consequences for the Boston stand-up comedy community than for the Cs title hopes.
That said, Griffin can still be useful in spots as noted upthread. Some of the pushback here seems a bit surprising. Griffin is effectively extra NBA paper towels.
That said, Griffin can still be useful in spots as noted upthread. Some of the pushback here seems a bit surprising. Griffin is effectively extra NBA paper towels.
I'll give him this: he played super fucking hard in the Brooklyn series even though he was getting roasted in the pick and roll. Fine bench piece, good to have him to shore up the backup position given our depth issues there. Will either be really interesting or a little depressing seeing him battle it out with Kabengele and Kornet.
If we signed a rando named Griffin Blake with the exact same stats and scouting report, I doubt people would be as hot with their takes.
Blake's also long been a decent secondary playmaker. There might be a second team package where Blake bangs down low on defense and helps run the offense from the wing, dragging his defender out to open the lane. That's all matchup dependent, but a useful arrow to have in the quiver.
I think this part is doubtful unless we make several trades, we only have 12 fully guaranteed deals, plus a partial in Kornet. Doubt that 2 of the camp deal guys make it past the guarantee date.
I know I have mentioned this a few times in the game threads but I used to run into him occasionally when he was in college and I worked in Norman and I couldn't fucking stand being in the same room as him. I really hate this move even when thinking objectively as possible. Sorry.
Maybe he's matured. I'm guessing he has a rep as a good guy in an NBA locker room, or else the C's wouldn't have made this move.
Ya, that's looking like 1-2 weeks.
Hmm, that's counter to most everything I've heard about him as a pro.