Bill Simmons: Valuing Trades More Than Friendships

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Just listening to the music part now. Bill is completely clueless. Trying to equate REM’s independence to the discussion about Fugazi. He didn’t understand why there is no comparison. Any chance he knows a Fugazi song besides, maybe, Waiting Room (which I love)?
Great point, I was practically shouting back at my iPhone at that take. I guess all the indie guitar bands from that period are the same to him?
He has some glaring and frankly unforgivable pop culture blind spots (Simpson's, Lebowski to name a few) yet ironically his mixture of pop culture and sports is the thing that made him famous.
 

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Wait what? How?

The band with $5 concerts and no merchandise that turned down $10 million record deals? How does that argument even look?
Simmons clearly thought “independent” meant “whatever college kids were listening to in 1988.”

No one can claim they know about late-80s alternative music and then not understand the chasm between Fugazi and the REM/PIL types. And for Simmons to pretend to get it and try to lecture about it is poseurism of the highest order.
 

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Simmons, and the ringer's coverage, of Kobe's passing and legacy has been very ESPN-y. Their right, just a little disappointed no besides the Press Box had half the balls to have a real conversation.

I know he doesnt want the internet trolls tanking his spotify sale but still. Come on.
 

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The amount of big city, lakers and Knicks, handjobs bill gives out over the NBA is tiring, uncreative and lacks any kind of intellectual analysis.

He's devolved into an espn head who cant handle any nuance or complex thoughts about the league. It's sad.
 

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I find the basketball coverage from anyone other than KOC on the Ringer to be pretty lame, personally. There's a lot of it and I find it often superficial....so if that's the refernence I'm with you.

I don't think the criticism of Simmons is a reasonable description of what he says personally, which these days is just in his podcast. He's pretty much same as ever on basketball, a lot of deep thought often expressed through silly-ish descriptions about "championship belt" and things like that. So curious which podcasts/comments make you land there.

I don't listen to his music stuff but find it incredinly easy to believe its as bad as several of you describe---and now will be sure to skip it all for sure!
 
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The Bob Iger interview was interesting, never realized that he and Simmons has such a friendly relationship. They didn’t get into much detail but it definitely seemed kind like Iger felt a bit burned by getting involved in the Rams/Chargers/Raiders to LA shuffle (it sounds like either Davis or the Spanos’ offered him a piece of their team if they were successful getting to LA).
 

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Getting canned by ESPN, starting to your own website/podcasting network, selling it for $250 million and then having the CEO of the company that fired you on your podcast is quite the flex.
 

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The Iger interview was good but was hoping he'd ask some of the following.

- plans for Fox
- what was it like working with the Murdoch family? Does Iger watch Succession?
- The Marvel Fiege / Perlmutter power struggle
- Disney's Star Wars plans after a shaky start (director issues, star wars land underperforming, success of mandalorian)
- what is their park strategy for pandemics post coronavirus?
 

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Joe House saying it was ok he lost $500 betting the over for the 76ers was ok because his “longtime friend just sold a company for a lot of money” was very funny
 

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Dave Grohl is the perfect podcast guest. Plenty of stories that can go on for a while, great talker, very good sense of humor, tons of legitimacy since he's a damn legend. I'll guess that Bill got that contact from Zane. Anyway, I could listen to Dave forever. His hanging out with Robert Smith story was hilarious.
And of course Bill blaming Pauline Kael for bad movie taste broke the irony detector. He should have run that take by QT and see what happens.
 

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Agreed, I really enjoyed that conversation. And I knew the story, but hearing Dave talk in detail about the lag he hit with the Foo Fighters, and then going to record an album with QOTSA (an amazing album to boot) and the feelings around that was pretty cool.
 

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This is why Bill is a great podcaster, I skipped this one because it didn't interest me but here you guys are talking it up and Bill is going to get that Casper Mattress money cause now I'm going to listen.

Pizza, Sex, and the BS Podcast even when it's bad, it's good*

*I have had some truly awful......pizza, but I like this saying.
As a female friend said, "that saying isn't even right about pizza."