Bedard: Dave DeGuglielmo not popular with Patriots OL

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Raiders D vs Jets:  212 yards on 34 carries, 6.2 ypc.  Reluctantly taking out Ivory's 71 yard run, you still have 4.3 ypc.  
 
vs. Texans:  188 yards on 46 carries, 4.1 ypc.  The key stat is that in the 2nd half, the Texans ran 39 plays, of which only 6 were passes.  
 
vs Pats:  76 yards on 32 carries, 2.4 ypc.  That is just not an acceptable performance under any circumstances.  Yeah, I can believe the Raiders made adjustments after their first two games.  But the Pats OL regressed from their already shitty performance first 2 games.  Reiss is 100% on target with his criticism.  
 
I don't generally give Bedard a lot of credibility when it comes to "rumors have it...." stories.  However, I can't imagine Belichick was thrilled after their latest non-performance.  There was really nothing positive to take out of that game.  
 

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Thought I would post a piece by Christopher Price (WEEI) on DeGuglielmo's past lines. It's not exactly analytical, but the basic numbers bother me. His lines have always struggled with pass protection? Often have had difficulties in the interior line? I would have thought that those were exactly the sorts of things the team would be looking at as areas needing improvement, power running be damned...
 
I see that he has a Coughlin connection, that the team may have been familiar with him from his days with the NYG and NYJ, and that he has studied under some good people, but I wonder why this was the move that was made...given that OLine observations are pretty technical, and beyond my ken, I presume that observing and evaluating OLine coaching is similarly tricky, but maybe someone can dig into this deeper and figure out what the heck BB is thinking...
 

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This is a scary week. If DeGuglielmo doesn't coach up Solder, Tomba Hali will destroy Brady. I have to think we will see Stork against Dontari Poe (trial by fire)--and Vollmer on Justin Houston.
The hopeful view for the season is that with Connelly back at RG, he and Solder will return to form, and Stork and Cannon will make steady progress. A lot of pressure on DeGuglielmo.
 

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lambeau said:
This is a scary week. If DeGuglielmo doesn't coach up Solder, Tomba Hali will destroy Brady. I have to think we will see Stork against Dontari Poe (trial by fire)--and Vollmer on Justin Houston.
The hopeful view for the season is that with Connelly back at RG, he and Solder will return to form, and Stork and Cannon will make steady progress. A lot of pressure on DeGuglielmo.
 
How do you see Connolly at RG affecting Solder at LT? Especially considering Connolly has pretty much always been a detriment in pass blocking.
 

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Sorry, unrelated--my assumption is both Solder and Connelly have been solid in the past and may return to form quicker. While Connelly was  uneven last year, my recollection is he had
particular trouble with guys like JJ Watt, Geno Atkins, Randy Starks, and Muhammed Wilkerson, but also had a number of OK games--and anyway may do better now by returning to guard.
 

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kolbitr said:
Thought I would post a piece by Christopher Price (WEEI) on DeGuglielmo's past lines. It's not exactly analytical, but the basic numbers bother me. His lines have always struggled with pass protection? Often have had difficulties in the interior line? I would have thought that those were exactly the sorts of things the team would be looking at as areas needing improvement, power running be damned...
 
Price needed to add a few more stats:
 
Year / Starting QB / Rating / Completion % / TD / INT
2009 - Henne - 75% - 61% - 12 - 14
2010 - Henne - 75% - 61% - 15 - 19
2011 - Moore - 87% - 60% - 16 - 9
2012 - Sanchize - 67% - 54% - 13 - 18
 
Obviously this is all chicken and egg, but he got 1 year of above average QB play, bad QBs typically get blitzed more than good QBs which can inflate sacks.  I'm not sure how you really go about evaluating an offensive line coach short of reviewing a ton of their game tape, but looking at gross numbers can be misleading.
 

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The fact that BB played against Guge's lines 8 times and BB hired him strongly suggests that Guge's lines were well coached even if they weren't good.