BbtL Super Bowl XLIX Thread

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So do something against the rules to combat something within the rules?
 
Got it.
 

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Only reason he has a super bowl is because they increased the noise and the temperature in the RCA Dome. He'd be just another ringless coach in the John Fox category.
 

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I don't know, wibi, but let's talk some football. The patriots have a good passing game, but they seem to have some trouble with the better DB in the league. How does this Richard Sherman compare to say Captain Munnerlyn? Maybe I should go ask at Sons of Dave Valle?
 
Try at Sons of Bucky Jacobsen first.
 

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I think Tony Dungy might be my least favorite person in sports.
 
Not only is he a fucking dick when it comes to a football, he hates when men fuck dicks.  He's a bigot, a homophobe, and a total shithead when it comes to football.  Fuck that guy.  The rumours about his son are probably true, which is horrible, because Tony definitely had something to do with his passing.  Thank God NBC has him on TV all the fucking time!
 
I'd rather root for Terrell Suggs for a lifetime than have Tony Dungy coach a team I liked for 10 seconds.
 

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CaptainLaddie said:
I think Tony Dungy might be my least favorite person in sports.
 
Not only is he a fucking dick when it comes to a football, he hates when men fuck dicks.  He's a bigot, a homophobe, and a total shithead when it comes to football.  Fuck that guy.  The rumours about his son are probably true, which is horrible, because Tony definitely had something to do with his passing.  Thank God NBC has him on TV all the fucking time!
 
I'd rather root for Terrell Suggs for a lifetime than have Tony Dungy coach a team I liked for 10 seconds.
 
I'm rooting for Rodney to lose it and freak out on him on-air one day. You just know he wants to.
 

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CaptainLaddie said:
I think Tony Dungy might be my least favorite person in sports.
 
Not only is he a fucking dick when it comes to a football, he hates when men fuck dicks.  He's a bigot, a homophobe, and a total shithead when it comes to football.  Fuck that guy.  The rumours about his son are probably true, which is horrible, because Tony definitely had something to do with his passing.  Thank God NBC has him on TV all the fucking time!
 
I'd rather root for Terrell Suggs for a lifetime than have Tony Dungy coach a team I liked for 10 seconds.
Couldn't agree more. I hate that look he gets in his eyes right as he comes on the air, then he launches into one of his sanctimonious tirades. I'd love someone to explain to him that many homophobes are latent homosexuals. He deserves a middle aged identity crisis.
 

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I was watching some of SB 48 yesterday and it really hit me just how much this Seattle team has changed from last year when it comes to their offensive weapons. Both Percy Harvin and Golden Tate are gone. Harvin was dynamite in that game and while Tate didn't make too much noise (3, 17 yards) you have to figure his presence on the field created matchup problems that don't exist to the same degree going into this game.
 

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Fuck it. Fine. Whatever. Crazier shit has been made of even dumber issues. This week.
 

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Was reading this story about Carroll's time in NE, and Drew Bledsoe mentioned that Carroll "probably deserves to be mentioned in that top echelon of coaches", so I started listed the coaches that have gone to back-to-back Super Bowls. Pretty illustrious list
 
Vince Lombardi
Tom Landry
Don Shula
Bud Grant
Chuck Noll
Joe Gibbs
Dan Reeves
Marv Levy
Jimmy Johnson
Mike Holmgren
Mike Shanahan
Bill Belichick
Pete Carroll
 
The break between Belichick and Carroll, ten years, is the longest. 
 

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This is ridiculous. The NFL really wants to find ways to ruin its biggest game, Can you imagine if something like this gets called and has a direct impact on the outcome. 
 
(ProFootballTalk: Seahawks To Be Penalized Yardage For Lynch Dick Grabs)
http://deadspin.com/profootballtalk-seahawks-to-be-penalized-yardage-for-l-1681591982
 
I know no one here needs any extra ammo for the NFL's hypocrisy but they are selling an NFC Champions photo with Lynch in an HMD pose on the official NFL site
 
http://www.nflshop.com/catalog/product/Seattle_Seahawks_2014_NFC_Champions_Framed_20_x_24_Collage_with_Piece_of_Game-Used_Football_-_Limited_Edition_of_100
 

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Matt Young's Control said:
The Pats could be facing a hostile crowd this weekend. The ongoing media witch hunt has many neutral fans in an anti-Pats uproar. And it looks like tickets are being scooped up by Seahawks fans:
 
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2025545660_fansmonday26xml.html
 

 
 
Great.  One more thing.  
 
Honestly, it's sort of unavoidable and just bad luck for the Patriots that the game isn't in, say, New Orleans.   Arizona is to Seattle what Florida is to Boston; reasonably-long flight that lots of people probably make as part of their spring break/winter plans from time to time.   Hell, half of Seattle probably has family with a condo in Arizona.
 

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Why isn't it unsportsmanlike anyway? I mean, is it not at least as bad as the 5,000 other celebrations that are UC?
Maybe it should be, but if you are not going to call it all season (I know twice) you should not start in the Superbowl.
 

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Silverdude2167 said:
Maybe it should be, but if you are not going to call it all season (I know twice) you should not start in the Superbowl.
 
If they warn him ahead of time, then I think it's fine.  
 
It would be another thing if they didn't warn him and then had an ex 49ers exec run a botched sting operation to catch him in the act, but then couldn't figure out if it was actually his hand by his balls or if it was just the shadow which was caused by the immutable property of light that it cannot permeate a solid surface.  Something like that would just be silly.
 

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drleather2001 said:
 
Great.  One more thing.  
 
Honestly, it's sort of unavoidable and just bad luck for the Patriots that the game isn't in, say, New Orleans.   Arizona is to Seattle what Florida is to Boston; reasonably-long flight that lots of people probably make as part of their spring break/winter plans from time to time.   Hell, half of Seattle probably has family with a condo in Arizona.
There will be some amount of hatred for the division rival among Arizonans though. How much locals actually cheer for the Patriots remains to be seen. You say Seattle people vacation in AZ, well, AZ people go to San Diego for the beaches. Where do San Diego people go? 
 
Another contributor, “40yearfan,” spells out exactly what he wants to see: “Patriots 47, Hawks 3, (and) the Seahawks play so badly, NFL declares them ineligible for the next three Super Bowls.”
 
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2025532434_arizonamood24xml.html#_ga=1.269109041.1587039801.1422288188
 

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One of the things that has pissed me off about the last two Super Bowl losses, is if you told me before the games the Giants were going to score 21 and 17 points, I would have guessed that the Pats would win both games. The Pats defense played pretty well in both games. Especially, the 2011 defense, which was a horrible defense during the regular season but they were pretty good in the Super Bowl. The 2014 Pats were fourth in the league in scoring. I will be pissed if with a healthy Gronk they can't at least score over 25+ points. Seattle has a great defense but the Pats need to get something working in this game.
 

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Think Super Nomario has addressed that 2011 game in the past, but points scored is a bit deceiving in 2011 Super Bowl.  Defense didnt give up many big plays, but didnt play all that well.
 

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ShaneTrot said:
One of the things that has pissed me off about the last two Super Bowl losses, is if you told me before the games the Giants were going to score 21 and 17 points, I would have guessed that the Pats would win both games. The Pats defense played pretty well in both games. Especially, the 2011 defense, which was a horrible defense during the regular season but they were pretty good in the Super Bowl. The 2014 Pats were fourth in the league in scoring. I will be pissed if with a healthy Gronk they can't at least score over 25+ points. Seattle has a great defense but the Pats need to get something working in this game.
Both Super Bowl losses were "short" games, where each team had a small number of possessions, which makes the defense look better and the offense look worse than it really was. I'm not saying the offense played great, but the defense was bad, especially in the 2012 game- the Giants scored 19 offensive points in effectively 8 possessions, they forced no turnovers, and the Giants didn't have a drive fewer than seven plays (one of the reasons there were so few possessions in the game). And in 2008, the Giants scored 17 points on 8 real drives, a lousy performance against a team that only scored 1.77 points per drive.
 

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Super Nomario said:
Both Super Bowl losses were "short" games, where each team had a small number of possessions, which makes the defense look better and the offense look worse than it really was. I'm not saying the offense played great, but the defense was bad, especially in the 2012 game- the Giants scored 19 offensive points in effectively 8 possessions, they forced no turnovers, and the Giants didn't have a drive fewer than seven plays (one of the reasons there were so few possessions in the game). And in 2008, the Giants scored 17 points on 8 real drives, a lousy performance against a team that only scored 1.77 points per drive.
I get what you are saying but you have to admit for the firepower brought to both games, the offensive point totals by NE were pretty pathetic.
 

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No doubt that Seahawks' safety Earl Thomas will play in Super Bowl 49, but there is also no doubt that Seattle’s defensive lynch pin will need a shoulder harness and alter his game to do so. Also look for an announcement of surgery sometime after the big game.
Thomas will be limited in the big game
Thomas returned to limited practice on Friday after missing several days and is listed officially as questionable. He initially injured his left shoulder on a tackle as he fell on his outstretched arm. By video, it appeared that his shoulder transiently came out of the socket.
Initial injury reports were non-specific and only indicated shoulder. In Thomas’ post game interview, he seemed to imply the shoulder came out. Later, Adam Schefter confirmed it to be a dislocated shoulder.
The boney anatomy of the shoulder joint is not a ball and socket joint like the hip. Rather, it is more like a golf ball on a tee. This allows for free motion but stability depends on the labrum (edge of tee), which deepens the socket. In the vast majority of dislocated shoulders, the labrum is torn and stability is compromised much like how the golf ball needs to be delicately balanced on a chipped golf tee.
Because of the likely labral tear, expect Thomas to have surgery announced after the Super Bowl. In the short term, he can continue to play with a harness, but he will have to learn to play differently.
The brace functions to limit shoulder motion. Typically, the shoulder becomes unstable as the arm moves away from the body and the harness prevents this motion.
Although the brace allows Thomas to play, it will limit his mobility and change his play. He will not be able to reach up and out with his left arm to battle a receiver, bat down a ball or reach an interception. When he tackles, he will not be able to wrap up with his left shoulder. Instead, look for him to lower his shoulder to deliver a blow with his left arm at his side.
Thomas has already adjusted his play in the NFC Championship Game, he made a big second half tackle on Eddie Lacy by not wrapping up and lowering his left shoulder for a big hit. Contrary to the untrained eye, this is actually a safer technique that protects a previously dislocated shoulder. Thomas will play and be effective in Super Bowl 49, but as I said immediately after the injury, I am more worried about his shoulder than Richard Sherman’s elbow. He will get through the game with a brace and altered style of play and then return to full form after off-season surgery.
 
 
 
 
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Monday-Morning-MD-3057.html
 
They must challenge Earl Thomas in all phases of the game to gauge his shoulder.
 

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ShaneTrot said:
I get what you are saying but you have to admit for the firepower brought to both games, the offensive point totals by NE were pretty pathetic.
Sure, the offense didn't play well, but the offensive point totals were also driven by defenses that couldn't get off the field, limiting the opportunities for the offense and giving them generally poor field position when they did get the ball.
 
EDIT: I'm not exonerating the offense in either game - they weren't good. But the final score suggests a good defensive performance, which wasn't the case, either. Both the offense and defense played poorly in both Super Bowl losses.
 

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Super Nomario said:
Sure, the offense didn't play well, but the offensive point totals were also driven by defenses that couldn't get off the field, limiting the opportunities for the offense and giving them generally poor field position when they did get the ball.
 
EDIT: I'm not exonerating the offense in either game - they weren't good. But the final score suggests a good defensive performance, which wasn't the case, either. Both the offense and defense played poorly in both Super Bowl losses.
Yeah, the long drives by the Giants were killers. Plus the poor luck in fumble recovery. The Giants fumbled 4 times and recovered their own each time.
 

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Looking forward to the "Dirty Patriots taking advantage of hurt players!" Uproar.
 

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drleather2001 said:
 
Great.  One more thing.  
 
Honestly, it's sort of unavoidable and just bad luck for the Patriots that the game isn't in, say, New Orleans.   Arizona is to Seattle what Florida is to Boston; reasonably-long flight that lots of people probably make as part of their spring break/winter plans from time to time.   Hell, half of Seattle probably has family with a condo in Arizona.
 
Hawaii is probably a better example of Seattle's "Florida". Seattlites can get desert by driving over the mountains.
 
Still it's a direct flight, considerably cheaper, and Seahawks fans are generally pretty well-off.
 

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Hawaii is probably a better example of Seattle's "Florida". Seattlites can get desert by driving over the mountains.
 
Still it's a direct flight, considerably cheaper, and Seahawks fans are generally pretty well-off.
 
It's 39 degrees in Spokane right now.  It's 70 in Phoenix.
 

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There will be some amount of hatred for the division rival among Arizonans though. How much locals actually cheer for the Patriots remains to be seen. You say Seattle people vacation in AZ, well, AZ people go to San Diego for the beaches. Where do San Diego people go?
 
Another contributor, “40yearfan,” spells out exactly what he wants to see: “Patriots 47, Hawks 3, (and) the Seahawks play so badly, NFL declares them ineligible for the next three Super Bowls.”
 
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2025532434_arizonamood24xml.html#_ga=1.269109041.1587039801.1422288188
I live in NorCal near Silicon Valley, not San Diego, but at least for me there's really no particular desire to go somewhere sunnier.  I had a great Alaskan vacation during the summer.  But really I've been all over - Alaska, Vermont, Hawaii, Europe, Seattle, Kentucky Bourbon country.  And lots of trips semi-locally up to wine country (Napa/Sonoma). Wouldn't mind getting back to Boston at some point, I moved away about 7 years ago.
 

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drleather2001 said:
 
It's 39 degrees in Spokane right now.  It's 70 in Phoenix.
 
Spokane and Seattle couldnt be further apart personality wise or climate wise.
 

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OH FFS
 
 
Sports Illustrated ‏@SInow  8m8 minutes ago
 
The NFL will run an anti-domestic violence PSA during the Super Bowl http://on.si.com/1H2GVFg 
 
That's actually a better ad than I frankly thought they could make, their current spectrum of ads made with people forced to drum up tears and cry on camera was so horribly done it left people confused as to what the message actually was and came off as a forced attempt to deflect.  This ad at least takes the step toward reality, and the struggles that exist in many households across the country rich or poor.  100% better, still not perfect but at least the message is clear and doesn't seem like onions are off-camera.
 

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wibi said:
 
Spokane and Seattle couldnt be further apart personality wise or climate wise.
 
He's referring to my comment where I said, "If Seattlites want desert, they can drive over the mountains."
 
One thing to keep in mind is that there's not the same level of incentive to leave Seattle in the winter that there is out east. Even the typical winters are milder, and the last two have been downright balmy. Plus, there's a ton of amazing winter getaways in driving distance. And personality wise, there's not a whole lot binding Seattle to Phoenix, either.