(Approaching the) Trade Deadline Thread

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Sorry, typo.

That's probably close to what the failed Bruins deal looked like, just swap Korpisalo out for a bottom 6 forward. As for the Quick part, the cap space was never a problem for the Jackets in terms of taking Smith back, but the problem, if that was ultimately what held it up for CBJ, was the actual money. Quick is owed a pro-rated $2.5 million, Smith was pro-rated $4.3 million.
 
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cshea said:
Sorry, typo.

That's probably close to what the failed Bruins deal looked like, just swap Korpisalo out for a bottom 6 forward. As for the Quick part, the cap space was never a problem for the Jackets in terms of taking Smith back, but the problem, if that was ultimately what held it up for CBJ, was the actual money. Quick is owed a pro-rated $2.5 million, Smith was pro-rated $4.3 million.
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I'm glad it was LAK that paid the price and not the B's. I'm more than a little satisfied with the Orlov/Hathaway deal. :)
 
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Yeah seems like there will be even less meat on the bone for trades this year.
cshea said:
Sorry, typo.

That's probably close to what the failed Bruins deal looked like, just swap Korpisalo out for a bottom 6 forward. As for the Quick part, the cap space was never a problem for the Jackets in terms of taking Smith back, but the problem, if that was ultimately what held it up for CBJ, was the actual money. Quick is owed a pro-rated $2.5 million, Smith was pro-rated $4.3 million.
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Isn't Korpisalo more than just a bottom 6 forward though? His high danger sv % and scoring chance save % are among the tops in the NHL. LAK just went from the worst starting G in the NHL to at worst a top 10 closer to top 6 with this trade. I realize G values are somewhat suppressed typically but this still seems like more than a Hathaway piece going to LAK esp since he is only 28.
 
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Yeah seems like there will be even less meat on the bone for trades this year.

Isn't Korpisalo more than just a bottom 6 forward though? His high danger sv % and scoring chance save % are among the tops in the NHL. LAK just went from the worst starting G in the NHL to at worst a top 10 closer to top 6 with this trade. I realize G values are somewhat suppressed typically but this still seems like more than a Hathaway piece going to LAK esp since he is only 28.
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I think it's a stretch to talk about Korpisalo as a top 10 goalie. He bounced back a bit this year to respectability but his recent track record is ugly.

Ove the last 3 seaons, he is 54th out of 55 qualifying goalies with 3000+ all situation minutes at -26.20 goals saved above (in this calse, below) expected. His high danger save percentage ranks 42nd. For this season, he ranks 16th among goalies in goals saved above expected at 5.71, 18th in save percentage, 9th in high danger save percentage. He's basically gone from downright awful the two previous season to average this year. I'm sure he'll do better with a better team skating in front of him, but I'm not sure he's really all that valuable.
 
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Any word on if the Bruins are still looking to buy? Before the Hall/Foligno injuries I would have expected them to be done, but I'm wondering if Donny doesn't want to try and go out and get another forward in light of the lessened depth up front. Not sure what they can even do given cap space, or if an attractive option is even available, but after the last couple of nights that would definitely be in the back of my mind if I was GM.
 
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Any word on if the Bruins are still looking to buy? Before the Hall/Foligno injuries I would have expected them to be done, but I'm wondering if Donny doesn't want to try and go out and get another forward in light of the lessened depth up front. Not sure what they can even do given cap space, or if an attractive option is even available, but after the last couple of nights that would definitely be in the back of my mind if I was GM.
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No rumors, but they're pretty meaningless with this front office, anyway -- seems like every trade they complete is out of the blue. I had them picking up (or at least trying to pick up) a depth F before the Foligno injury, and I still do.
 
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Some of the speculation is Stevie landing Chychrun now. He's got 2 firsts and 3 seconds in the draft, cleared out an LHD making $4.4 million. Certainly seems to line up.
 
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…that’s it?
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I assume thats all they could get after everyone else backed out... IIRC they were shooting for the moon (asking price wise) less than a week ago. So when everyone backed out they either could trade him for that or keep him past the deadline...

IOW: ARZ completely overplayed their hand when asking for the moon and it bit them in the rear
 
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To be fair, that is quite a long time to retain (through 2024-25).

The Flyers have been deathly quiet so far. Anyone think a JvR trade could be useful?
 
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To be fair, that is quite a long time to retain (through 2024-25).

The Flyers have been deathly quiet so far. Anyone think a JvR trade could be useful?
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Not necessarily talking about retention. I’m thinking more like taking a contract back now to make the money. That was reportedly the stumbling block with Boston and LA.


Ottawa could fit Chychrun in without sending money back to Arizona, and that appears to be why they got him.
 
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I think it’s a no-brainer for Ottawa. They are young and on an upward trajectory. Their biggest need was a top 4 defenseman, which they just got and he is signed for 2 more years.

They are also for sale so creating some buzz and getting the fans excited and back in the building will help on that front.
 
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I'm glad Ottawa got him instead of someone else. Not sure why they make that trade though.
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Coyotes are a literal poverty franchise
View: https://twitter.com/craigsmorgan/status/1631085025633640448?s=46&t=4A_L8qoKOnofphlcF4_qlQ
Telling Bill Armstrong quote here: "Nowadays with the salary cap, as much as the Coyotes have made out from a flat cap, it also makes it hard to do deals because it's money in, money out with a lot of teams. To escape with no money taken back was huge for us."
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“Escape with no money”
 
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How does Ron Hextall still have a job? He was awful in Philadelphia, and Granlund is just a remarkably bad tradeline acquisition, even at a minimal cost.
 
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For Armstrong being under a presumed no salary retention mandate, not awful return IMO. Don’t trust them to do anything w that mid-1st but they could hit a similar caliber player given quality of this draft.

That the GM is public discussing their internal cap proactively is really funny and they should be moved / contracted, but it isn’t terrible given their constraints imo

Vancouver forking over pick 12-16 for Hronek with Hughes already there is so, so good.
 
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Small potatoes for most outside of Sabres / U of Mich fans - Buffalo traded the rights to current Michigan Goalie Erik Portillo to the LA Kings for a 2023 3rd round pick. Something for nothing, as Portillo was expected to sign elsewhere after the season. Portillo would have been blocked by UPL and Devon Levi (acquired from Florida along with a 2022 1st for Sam Reinhart).

There was a little smoke around the Sabres interest in Chychrun. Glad that passed. The Sabres are a little more than a top pair D away from competing in a stacked East, and in my opinion need a thumper instead. Hopefully they can squeak into a wild card slot this year to get the kids a few game of playoff experience.

View: https://twitter.com/BuffaloSabres/status/1631070638457643011?s=20
 
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That the GM is public discussing their internal cap proactively is really funny and they should be moved / contracted, but it isn’t terrible given their constraints imo
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The league sending a memo out to warn teams about LTIR shenanigans and them being on the lookout for using LTIR to circumvent the cap a few days after Arizona acquired Shea Weber to circumvent the cap floor was rich.
 
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But yeah, Tempe should definitely spring several hundred million dollars to prop up a guy whose poor work environment has been well-documented, not to mention appease a commissioner that ran a Capone-style protection racket a couple of towns to the east. Tell me, Gary, why wouldn’t you want a team in America’s fourth largest city?
 
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I'm a big believer in the Stevie Y plan, but unless Sebastian Cossa turns into a stud goalie for them, that Anthony Mantha trade went from an absolute steal to a major woof in a hurry.
 
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