(Approaching the) Trade Deadline Thread

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Salem's Lot said:
If they start adding guys with term, I’m not sure how they’re going to be able to give Pastrnak the $12 million AAV that he’s probably going to get, and be able to find another center. Basically I don’t buy this rumor about McCabe.
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The assumption with McCabe is that CHI would retain 50% on his salary.
 
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The assumption with McCabe is that CHI would retain 50% on his salary.
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The cost to retain 2M for 2 additional seasons is probably higher than the player acquisition cost based on historical comps. Perhaps a trade better suited for the offseason.
If B's are going to give up significant assets now it really needs to be a needle mover IMO.
 
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McCabe is OK but with the cost of getting him plus having Chicago retain, I'd rather just dump it all to the Coyotes for Chychrun.
 
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Yeah, but it takes two sides to make a trade, and can the Bruins even meet AZ's price AND beat out what's sure to be at least a few competitors AND somehow dump enough salary to make it work? I mean even their 2023 first round pick is more likely than any other team's to be at the end of the first round.
 
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Yeah, but it takes two sides to make a trade, and can the Bruins even meet AZ's price AND beat out what's sure to be at least a few competitors AND somehow dump enough salary to make it work? I mean even their 2023 first round pick is more likely than any other team's to be at the end of the first round.
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It's kind of hard to answer that without knowing what other teams are offering. The Bruins farm system may not be deep but it isn't totally barren, they could cobble together an extremely competitive package if they wanted to.

The Bruins 1st is going to be 28-32 but I don't think it's that big of a deal. Nobody in the lottery range is going to deal their pick in the Bedard sweepstakes unprotected. The other teams in the mix are probably in the 20's too. It's not a massive difference the Bruins couldn't make up elsewhere.
 
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It's kind of hard to answer that without knowing what other teams are offering. The Bruins farm system may not be deep but it isn't totally barren, they could cobble together an extremely competitive package if they wanted to.

The Bruins 1st is going to be 28-32 but I don't think it's that big of a deal. Nobody in the lottery range is going to deal their pick in the Bedard sweepstakes unprotected. The other teams in the mix are probably in the 20's too. It's not a massive difference the Bruins couldn't make up elsewhere.
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Yes, I think that they could put together a competitive offer to AZ, but their only assets with any significant value (who aren't already rostered) are really limited to just Lohrei, Lysell, and Merkulov (maybe Beecher, I guess, but I'm not counting on him) and draft picks (the latter of which every team has), so they have to hope that some other team doesn't have and isn't willing to deal assets that are more attractive to AZ. And to be honest, how sold are we on Lysell? Small sample size, but he stunk in the recent WJC and has been only okay in the AHL (I realize that he' just turned 20, but to me he's a very good, but not great, prospect).

Also, and this is important, the Bs are going to have to burn one or more of their few assets just to get AZ (or some other team) to eat a bad contract, so it wouldn't be just Chychrun that they'd need to buy, but instead Chychrun and say, Reilly's contract.

I don't think that Bs are prohibited from acquiring Chychrun, I just think that they have more hurdles than do some other teams (not saying that other teams don't have hurdles).
 
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I have to believe that the Caps, a team that's not far out of the playoff hunt, must have had at least some preliminary talks with teams before deciding to yank those guys.
 
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Orlov is a hell of a lot better than Gavrikov, and Hathaway would be an interested add to the 4th line.

Hathaway/Frederic/Foligno would be a HEAVY 4th line.
 
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At this point, I fully expect Nate MacKinnon and Cale Makar to be added for a bag of pucks and a Bergeron autograph, so who knows.
 
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I think they are done for the most part. Maybe another depth F, otherwise don’t see a ton of room for more additions.

Marchand - Bergeron - DeBrusk
Zacha - Krejci - Pastrnak
Hall - Coyle - Frederic
Foligno - Nosek - Hathaway
Greer

Orlov - McAvoy
Lindholm - Carlo
Grzelyck - Clifton
Forbort/Zboril/Reilly/Stralman

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Swayman
 
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FWIW the Blue Jackets beat writer is still beating the Bruins had deal with Gavrikov in place. https://theathletic.com/4246742/2023/02/23/blue-jackets-gavrikov-trade-bruins/?source=user_shared_article

Multiple team and league sources confirmed to The Athletic that the Blue Jackets firmly felt they had a deal in place with Boston for more than a week that would have sent defenseman Vladislav Gavrikov to the Bruins for multiple picks and/or players.
The Blue Jackets believed the deal was done, sources said, but Boston repeatedly asked for more time. A deal isn’t official until it’s submitted to the NHL for approval.
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They probably did but a week is a long time. They should've known something was up pretty early. I remember during the Iginla fiasco (and holy shit, that was a decade ago), the Bruins knew within hours of getting the "we've got a deal" email or verbal confirmation that something was up. If the Bruins kept asking for time, Columbus could've or should've put a deadline on the deal, shit or get off the pot. Sitting around and waiting for your trade parter to conclude other business is just asking for trouble. If the whole deal was contingent on the Bruins moving Craig Smith, Columbus should've worked harder to make that happen, either by taking him themselves or helping find a 3rd team. Instead they hung up the phone and sat on their hands while Sweeney made calls.

Sweeney said last night the deal came together "relatively quickly." What that exactly means is unclear, but Washington was in a playoff spot up until this week. The Caps decision to sell probably came within the past week.
 
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At this point, I fully expect Nate MacKinnon and Cale Makar to be added for a bag of pucks and a Bergeron autograph, so who knows.
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Is it an autographed photograph of Bergeron? If so, how much salary would Colorado be retaining?
 
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NY Rangers will be sneaky dangerous with Kane. I'm not sure if they have the defense to grind out a 7 game series with Carolina but they are stacked up front (and obviously in the net).
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Ehh Kane is only good at scoring. They are currently bad at 5v5 and this will not make them better.

They are making win now decisions when they are maybe the 5th best team in the conference.
 
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