Adrian's Dome said:
I think what he's asking is if you can grandfather an individual plan into a family plan. To my knowledge, you cannot since it's a change of plan.
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I think what he's asking is if you can grandfather an individual plan into a family plan. To my knowledge, you cannot since it's a change of plan.
Fairly certain you can just add a line without changing the plan of the primary phone. I was going to do it a few years ago and they told me at that time it wouldn't cost me my unlimited data or anything. I didn't end up doing it, but I don't expect there's any reason that's changed.
Yeah - I was never a Pandora guy. The hassling of managing an additional account outweighed the utility. iTunes Radio has now become my go-to music solution.soxhop411 said:
JerBear said:
Actually, a few years ago, when I was due for my previous upgrade, I was considering an iPhone at the time, and they would NOT let me grandfather my old data plan. They said if I wanted the iPhone, I needed to upgrade my data plan. I talked to the people at the Verizon store and even spoke with a supervisor on the phone. No dice. So when this recent upgrade time came around, yeah, I actually had to do some sweet-talking to get them to grandfather my old limited (150mb) data plan. I realize it shouldn't have had to come to that, but it did.
Yeah, I'm really enjoying ios7. I've got a 16 GB iPhone 4, which was eligible for an upgrade in June but I transferred that to my wife for some unknown reason so she could get a 5. Space is a premium on my phone, so the ability to use iTunes radio over Pandora is nice.
FYI
In-store pickup is now available. I just got my Gold 5s by checking online. If you made a pre-order, cancel it and make a new in-store order.
In-store pickup is now available. I just got my Gold 5s by checking online. If you made a pre-order, cancel it and make a new in-store order.
You honestly probably don't. I got the 5s and it's a very nice little device, but coming from a 5 it's an extremely minor upgrade. If you're into gadgets and you're into this stuff, it's not a stupid purchase, but I don't think there's much of a reason to NEED a 5s aside from potentially being able to leverage the fingerprint stuff to let your work BYOD if they don't already.
Adrian's Dome said:
Depends on model/carrier. Apple store in Natick and Chestnut Hill are showing stock in AT&T 32GB Silver right now.
Alex18 said:
Personally I'm kind of a gadget freak, but even I don't see the point in upgrading phones every year rather than every other year when contracts are up and the phone is a signficant upgrade. From a 4S, the 5s is a great purchase and a worthy upgrade. But if you have a 5 and about a year left on your contract I don't see any reason to upgrade rather than waiting for next year's model.
I upgraded from a 4 to the 5s and I could not be happier. It is better in every possible way, from blazing speed to phone volume that I can actually hear. I love it.
Got ATT 64 gb slate gray at Natick Apple store on Saturday. At the time, they only had those and Sprint 32 gb silver.
Got ATT 64 gb slate gray at Natick Apple store on Saturday. At the time, they only had those and Sprint 32 gb silver.
Personally I'm kind of a gadget freak, but even I don't see the point in upgrading phones every year rather than every other year when contracts are up and the phone is a signficant upgrade. From a 4S, the 5s is a great purchase and a worthy upgrade. But if you have a 5 and about a year left on your contract I don't see any reason to upgrade rather than waiting for next year's model.
I don't see any reason not to upgrade if you carrier allows you to at the minimum price. You'll likely be able to sell your old phone for the price of the upgrade if it's a year old.
I don't see any reason not to upgrade if you carrier allows you to at the minimum price. You'll likely be able to sell your old phone for the price of the upgrade if it's a year old.
Anyone else having iPhone battery problems since switching to ios7?
Is there a way to switch back?
Is there a way to switch back?
geoduck no quahog said:
turn off the motion effects. To me that has made the most difference. That and the background location services. At this point my battery rarely dips below 80%
derekson said:
I upgrade every year because I'm a nut. Aside from that though, it costs me $550 to get a new 32gb and I can sell my old phone for $350-400. So, for the price that most new customers are paying for a 16gb, I'm getting a 32gb.
I will say this though, I don't notice much of a difference between my 5 and 5s. It's definitely snappier, but my 5 was pretty damn fast anyway.
crow216 said:
Sure, but if you were updating every 2 years you'd pay essentially nothing out of pocket. I didn't even go through the effort of using eBay or craigslist for maximum return, I just did the Apple store trade-in, and the only reason it cost me anything out of pocket is that I traded in my 16 GB 4S for $204 and spent $299+tax on a 32 GB 5s. If I had stuck with a 16 GB model I would've paid under $10 out of pocket.
I don't understand this. I ve got the 4s and it's perfectly fine. What does the 5 series got going for it vs 4s? Screen size -which doesn't interest me- fingerprint reader that I could live without out and what? Marginally faster performance vs a phone that hasn't so far bothered me speed wise.derekson said:
I think that after the initial wave of innovation, smartphones have made their most significant gains in features. The next feature that's going to make me switch is an iphone with a great camera; you know, one with better sensor and all not just more megapixels. But besides that, I can't think of too many features that are going to make me say "omg, i need to have this".
Ps. I concur on itunes radio. Pandora asking me to open an account stopped me from ever trying it. I now see that itunes radio has 27 million songs as opposed to 1 million for Pandora. And I find some stuff I am interested in buying so there's always that.
I don't understand this. I ve got the 4s and it's perfectly fine. What does the 5 series got going for it vs 4s? Screen size -which doesn't interest me- fingerprint reader that I could live without out and what? Marginally faster performance vs a phone that hasn't so far bothered me speed wise.
I think that after the initial wave of innovation, smartphones have made their most significant gains in features. The next feature that's going to make me switch is an iphone with a great camera; you know, one with better sensor and all not just more megapixels. But besides that, I can't think of too many features that are going to make me say "omg, i need to have this".
Ps. I concur on itunes radio. Pandora asking me to open an account stopped me from ever trying it. I now see that itunes radio has 27 million songs as opposed to 1 million for Pandora. And I find some stuff I am interested in buying so there's always that.
Your camera comment strikes me odd. Apple consistently remarks about how they don't give a shit about megapixels. The camera on the 5(s) is great and on par with the best out there.
I think that after the initial wave of innovation, smartphones have made their most significant gains in features. The next feature that's going to make me switch is an iphone with a great camera; you know, one with better sensor and all not just more megapixels. But besides that, I can't think of too many features that are going to make me say "omg, i need to have this".
Ps. I concur on itunes radio. Pandora asking me to open an account stopped me from ever trying it. I now see that itunes radio has 27 million songs as opposed to 1 million for Pandora. And I find some stuff I am interested in buying so there's always that.
Your camera comment strikes me odd. Apple consistently remarks about how they don't give a shit about megapixels. The camera on the 5(s) is great and on par with the best out there.
Quick question regarding the unlimited grandfathering data plan with AT&T. I am currently on my own plan, but both my finances plan and I are up in November and want to go on a family plan. Will I lose my unlimited data plan by doing this? I really want to keep it as I know I've gone over the 2 GB many times.
You can do this, as I am holding such a phone in my hand to type this. It took them about 90min to do it for me in the AT&T store though. One big caveat: you cannot share the data plan. Each phone has to have its own individual data plan (I have one unlimited, and one 300mb on my acct, they share a pool of minutes.)
You can do this, as I am holding such a phone in my hand to type this. It took them about 90min to do it for me in the AT&T store though. One big caveat: you cannot share the data plan. Each phone has to have its own individual data plan (I have one unlimited, and one 300mb on my acct, they share a pool of minutes.)
They don't, but most smartphone companies do. The point is this: Most smartphones have replaced the need for a separate gps and a music player, while providing all sorts of nifty software for productivity and entertainment. The camera still covers a good chunk of your picture needs, but still, as far as I know, people who are into photography say that if you really want to take a good pic, get a separate camera. That's the stage I see as the next milestone. Where you don't have to have a separate camera if you really want a good picture.crow216 said:
Btw, the best cameraphone AFAIK right now is a nokia windows phone, the 1120 I think.
They don't, but most smartphone companies do. The point is this: Most smartphones have replaced the need for a separate gps and a music player, while providing all sorts of nifty software for productivity and entertainment. The camera still covers a good chunk of your picture needs, but still, as far as I know, people who are into photography say that if you really want to take a good pic, get a separate camera. That's the stage I see as the next milestone. Where you don't have to have a separate camera if you really want a good picture.
Btw, the best cameraphone AFAIK right now is a nokia windows phone, the 1120 I think.
That will never happen though. A decent DSLR camera will always be a better camera, period. They don't have the same purpose.
Btw, the best cameraphone AFAIK right now is a nokia windows phone, the 1120 I think.
That will never happen though. A decent DSLR camera will always be a better camera, period. They don't have the same purpose.
What are the early returns on the update with 4S's?
Are people experiencing performance issue besides battery life?
I've been burned a few times with updates so I've held out so far.
Are people experiencing performance issue besides battery life?
I've been burned a few times with updates so I've held out so far.
I've got no issues with iOS 7 and would never go back to iOS 6 on my 4S. battery life is way better, the new features are great, it's almost as fast (There's a small delay sometimes which i usually don't notice) and most apps work fine. A few are a bit buggy due to not being updated, but the pros far outweigh the cons.
I can't speak for anyone else but my battery on the 5s is much stronger than on my 5. I just listened to a podcast, played Kingdom Rush, and had my screen turned up all the way for about an hour on the subway (no service) and only saw 4% decline.
Nick Kaufman said:
The 5 Series run on LTE, which is MUCH faster than the G platform the 4S is running. (Assuming LTE is available in your area) That is likely the biggest difference. If speed is not very important, you are in pretty good shape. The graphics on the 5S for gaming in light years ahead as well.
crow216 said:
The battery is a lot stronger for me as well. But just in case, because I am a heavy internet user, I grabbed a Mophie battery case, and I pretty much can make it from 7AM to 10PM without a charge.
Manramsclan said:
Do it and turn off motion effects, per teddy's guidelines above. Battery's been fine and it feels like you've got a brand new phone. Some minor bugs, but nothing serious, and I'm sure most of them will be sorted in the next update.
Just do it.
Are people really this stupid that they believe that Ios7 makes their iphone waterproof?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/important-ios-7-does-not-make-your-iphone-waterproof
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/important-ios-7-does-not-make-your-iphone-waterproof
I'm generally the kind of guy that would prefer to buy last years' model at a discount than to pay full freight for the latest & greatest. That said, the difference in speed of both the actual workings of the phone and the LTE network itself make the 5 dramatically better than the 4 IMO. And even if the difference is "marginal", I use my phone close to all day every day and so that marginal difference adds up pretty quickly. And finally, how can you evaluate the difference in speed without having actually owned a 5 series? I used to have the 4S, upgraded to the 5, and now when I use my wife's 4S for something it's an absolute paincave to me. Sometimes you don't know what you're missing until you've had it for a while.Nick Kaufman said:
I d forgotten about the LTE thing because that isn't a big deal for me. But I agree, if you want fast internet, then that's a worthy upgrade. Regarding the speed thing, I dunno. I haven't felt that speed has been a problem for the stuff I ve been using a phone.Oil Can Dan said:
Well, never say never, but even if there's always a camera that's better than a smartphone's, to me the holly grail is to have a phone that's going to make me say that I don't need one.
I just have an iPhone 4, 8 gb (yeah, pretty basic). I checked my storage, and it says I have 109 mb available. There are definitely some things I can delete off it, but it says that the iOS7 update will be 667 mb. Is that in addition to what's already there, or will that replace the old iOS, so it will use a lot less than 667?
I believe the minimum storage requirement will be less if you download/install via iTunes opposed to wifi.
I would backup and delete what's not vital for the update then restore when finished.
I would backup and delete what's not vital for the update then restore when finished.
One thing about the camera - it's not just hardware improvements (sensors, lenses, flashes, etc.) that help from generation to generation. Photos get better with Apple's increasingly great image processing software as well. The stuff the 5s can do on the fly - burst mode, auto-selecting your best shot, correcting for focus and motion issues, etc. - is pretty incredible.
Papelbon's Poutine said:
You can do that in Google Chrome (there's a flag to 'Request desktop site'). It's not 100%- the site still has a lot of control- but it works better than anything else that I know about.
I don't think Safari has an equivalent.
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Nick Kaufman said:
the camera on the nokia is the only thing right now tempting me to switch from the iphone -- really looks spectacular.
Seabass177 said:
I'm seriously impressed by the upgrade. Better battery life, snappier, and mostly more stylish. Liking it better every day (on a 5).
Papelbon's Poutine said:
Get a browser that lets you spoof the user agent--it's been a while since I was on an iphone, but IIRC DolphinHD lets you do this. It'll tell the web server that you're "IE 9 on a Windows Vista desktop" or whatever instead of Safari on IOS, and you'll get the desktop page rather than defaulting to the mobile version.
RE: iOS7 power drain issues... I strangely haven't run into any. In fact, my 5 sat on my bedside table from 10:30 last night to 6:30 this morning and when I wen to check my email this morning, it was still showing 100%. Of course yesterday when I flew down to JFK and spent the day in the area, it seemed to have lost a couple percentage points every time I looked at it. But then so did my Galaxy III... as I don't tend to shut off bluetooth or wifi, etc. by default.
I have run into occasional sluggishness, in weird areas on both the 5 and my iPad. Most often, it's on the passcode lock screen. Maybe because the device is still waking/ramping up from "sleep" mode... but sometimes the soft keyboard won't respond for a second or two. This either didn't happen with iOS 6, or I'm just hyper sensitive to changes right now.
I have run into occasional sluggishness, in weird areas on both the 5 and my iPad. Most often, it's on the passcode lock screen. Maybe because the device is still waking/ramping up from "sleep" mode... but sometimes the soft keyboard won't respond for a second or two. This either didn't happen with iOS 6, or I'm just hyper sensitive to changes right now.
If you puke on your phone because the iOS7 animations made you sick, would the Apple Store replace it?
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/25/4770818/ios-7-zooming-animations-causing-reports-of-severe-motion-sickness
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/25/4770818/ios-7-zooming-animations-causing-reports-of-severe-motion-sickness
crow216 said:
I upgraded from a 4S so I'm not sure about 5 battery life (thoguh I think it had a bigger battery than the 4S), but my 5s battery seems awesome so far. I wanted to drain it to 0% to calibrate the battery by doing a full charge from 0 -> 100% and it took freaking forever to completely drain it. I went 2 full days of normal use and still had to just leave it playing a video for awhile. Granted I'm not the heaviest user of my phone on a day to day basis, but the battery is far ahead of what I've had in any previous iPhone.
This has potentials to be pretty cool:
http://mashable.com/2013/09/26/mlb-at-the-ballpark-app/
It looks like its geared at newbies for now, but if it works out I'm sure they could do a bunch of great stuff to provide information that we'd want as more diehard fans.
http://mashable.com/2013/09/26/mlb-at-the-ballpark-app/
It looks like its geared at newbies for now, but if it works out I'm sure they could do a bunch of great stuff to provide information that we'd want as more diehard fans.