Apple Event September 2013

IpswichSox · Sep 10, 2013

Longer battery life?

Fisks Of Fury · Sep 10, 2013

New @#$%ing Thunderbolt Display finally?

Seven Costanza · Sep 10, 2013

Interested to hear about the 5c and a possible deal with China Mobile. Market share!

jayhoz · Sep 10, 2013

ifmanis5 · Sep 10, 2013

A price and shipping date for the MacPro is what I'll be interested in.

Corsi · Sep 10, 2013

http://live.theverge.com/apple-iphone-5s-liveblog/

Murderer's Crow · Sep 10, 2013

New ringtones!!!!

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Corsi · Sep 10, 2013

iPhone 5C announced

Corsi · Sep 10, 2013

derekson · Sep 10, 2013

So the 5c is an iPhone 5 in a plastic case with a slightly larger battery. Seems like a decent entrylevel option. Though I don't really like the black face with the colored backs, seems like the white face wouldve looked better, no?

jayhoz · Sep 10, 2013

Very nice price point

Corsi · Sep 10, 2013

$99 for 16gb, $199 for 32gb on 2-year contract

jayhoz · Sep 10, 2013

Those silicone cases are disgusting.

AlNipper49 · Sep 10, 2013

At that point I may have to buy 5 of them so that I can get a mobile experience that will last the entire day without charging.

Yaz4Ever · Sep 10, 2013

64-bit A7 chip!

mt8thsw9th · Sep 10, 2013

Pfft. I had a Nintendo 64 17 years ago.

inJacobyWeTrust · Sep 10, 2013

Yaz4Ever said:
64-bit A7 chip!

What does this mean in practical terms?

Blundatola · Sep 10, 2013

mt8thsw9th said:
Pfft. I had a Nintendo 64 17 years ago.

Must've been quite the bulge in your pocket!

jayhoz · Sep 10, 2013

inJacobyWeTrust said:
What does this mean in practical terms?

Instead of more speed than 75% of people need, it will have more speed than 95% of people need.

mt8thsw9th · Sep 10, 2013

Blundatola said:
Must've been quite the bulge in your pocket!

You should've seen my bulge at the check-out line!

AlNipper49 · Sep 10, 2013

inJacobyWeTrust said:
What does this mean in practical terms?

Speed increase but more importantly, IMHO, is that it would indicate more RAM in imminent next gen releases

Murderer's Crow · Sep 10, 2013

Pretty much the same battery. Blah.

jayhoz · Sep 10, 2013

That was a quick drive by the whole battery life conversation wasn't it.

shlincoln · Sep 10, 2013

If the 5S really gets 10 hours of LTE that's pretty amazing since I'm happy if I get four to five hours of LTE with my 5.

canderson · Sep 10, 2013

My iPhone 5 battery at 38 percent and 3:12 hours 4G usage (LTE is unusably bad of a drain) questions that battery chart GREATLY.

AlNipper49 · Sep 10, 2013

The only way that it will get 10 hours is if it's shut off, and even then it'll be close.

Yaz4Ever · Sep 10, 2013

camera features look good and here comes the security features - fingerprint scanner? NFC?

derekson · Sep 10, 2013

I wonder if it will support storing multiple fingerprints or if you'll always need to use the same hand to unlock the phone. I know personally I'm constantly just using whichever hand is free to hold the phone or hit the home button with my thumb.

edit; okay, the Verge feed now says "it can handle multiple fingerprints too"

canderson · Sep 10, 2013

I unlock my phone with a different finger all time time, wonder if you can program more (right thumb, right index, right middle, left thumb, etc)

Edit: Verge says it can.

It can handle multiple fingerprints too.

JakeRae · Sep 10, 2013

canderson said:
I unlock my phone with a different finger all time time, wonder if you can program more (right thumb, right index, right middle, left thumb, etc)

It would seem to be necessary as, if you hurt a finger, or hand, you don't want to lose access to your phone or need to reprogram it.

shlincoln · Sep 10, 2013

What I most want after "watching" this event is an iPad with that a7 processor in it.

derekson · Sep 10, 2013

shlincoln said:
What I most want after "watching" this event is an iPad with that a7 processor in it.

Can't imagine that's more than a month or two off.

mt8thsw9th · Sep 10, 2013

My cousin is going to be very disappointed that they didn't come out with a see-through phone, which I had to explain to him isn't actually possible unless you make every component inside see-through.

jayhoz · Sep 10, 2013

mt8thsw9th said:
My cousin is going to be very disappointed that they didn't come out with a see-through phone, which I had to explain to him isn't actually possible unless you make every component inside see-through.

If he wants to be able to text and walk at the same time...there's a (camera) app for that.

canderson · Sep 10, 2013

Not a mention of Pro, iPad, anything else.

jayhoz · Sep 10, 2013

Still no NFC?

Yaz4Ever · Sep 10, 2013

I was hoping for something about Apple TV, iWatch, something big after a "one more thing". I don't think I'd want an iWatch, but I'd at least like to see something concrete about it.

shlincoln · Sep 10, 2013

That's in line with what people were saying before the event. It was just going to be iPhone/iOS 7.

teddykgb · Sep 10, 2013

yeah, anyone who was paying attention was expecting only an iPhone event. Having it at Apple's campus was also another giveaway. They're (supposedly) going to have another event in October focusing on iPad and the macbook is expected to get haswell in this timeframe as well.

derekson · Sep 10, 2013

jayhoz said:
Still no NFC?

I think Apple was right to skip NFC. With the low power implementations of Bluetooth 4.0, it's pretty superfluous. I see things like Paypal's beacon gaining more traction than NFC.

mt8thsw9th · Sep 10, 2013

Didn't Google scrap NFC in their latest Nexus phone? How wide-spread it its usage? I think part of the problem it's a "nice to have", but there's only so much space inside of the phones.

djhb20 · Sep 10, 2013

And no internet pre-orders for the 5S, only for the 5C? That's kind of weird.

jayhoz · Sep 10, 2013

derekson said:
I think Apple was right to skip NFC. With the low power implementations of Bluetooth 4.0, it's pretty superfluous. I see things like Paypal's beacon gaining more traction than NFC.

Beacon is a Paypal proprietary platform requiring coding into the various POS systems I believe. NFC is a universal, device agnostic platform.

shlincoln · Sep 10, 2013

djhb20 said:
And no internet pre-orders for the 5S, only for the 5C? That's kind of weird.

That is odd. Maybe apple thinks the C is going to do the monster business?

SoxFanInPdx · Sep 10, 2013

inJacobyWeTrust said:
What does this mean in practical terms?

Even crappier battery life basically. Pretty disappointing that with all these price points and slightly different specs, they won't get a better battery. Great that it will have an i7 chip, but thats going to hinder battery life a ton. I don't like having to carry around a charger to places.

djhb20 · Sep 10, 2013

shlincoln said:
That is odd. Maybe apple thinks the C is going to do the monster business?

Well the 5 came out, my wife and I went to lunch, walked by an apple store (at like 11:45) with no line, and walked in and bought one. So, maybe it's the opposite- they expect the 5S to be bigger (at least to the crazy line-waiters) and they are trying to create a reason to have people wait in line again. I'm sure they sold enough 5's to have long lines, but too many were probably bought online, so that's why the Bethesda Row Apple Store had no line.

But, even if that was so, why have it for the 5C and not the 5S? So, I'm probably wrong.

djhb20 · Sep 10, 2013

double post

teddykgb · Sep 10, 2013

djhb20 said:
Well the 5 came out, my wife and I went to lunch, walked by an apple store (at like 11:45) with no line, and walked in and bought one. So, maybe it's the opposite- they expect the 5S to be bigger (at least to the crazy line-waiters) and they are trying to create a reason to have people wait in line again. I'm sure they sold enough 5's to have long lines, but too many were probably bought online, so that's why the Bethesda Row Apple Store had no line.

But, even if that was so, why have it for the 5C and not the 5S? So, I'm probably wrong.

At this point, Apple probably has enough information for their logistics and operations teams to know the relative demand of a new iPhone flagship. They likely can't (and won't try to) meet it, but they understand (or think they do) where to allocate iphones to maximize penetration given limited availability.

The 5c, as a new device, might give them pause. Allowing people to pre-order gives them some pretty interesting data mashup capabilities to start to gauge demand for the device. It's relatively minor, but I do think this is the type of stuff Apple is marginally better at than most other companies. Especially given all the colorways, distributing this thing as efficiently as possible is actually a pretty nifty operations problem.

AlNipper49 · Sep 10, 2013

djhb20 said:
Well the 5 came out, my wife and I went to lunch, walked by an apple store (at like 11:45) with no line, and walked in and bought one. So, maybe it's the opposite- they expect the 5S to be bigger (at least to the crazy line-waiters) and they are trying to create a reason to have people wait in line again. I'm sure they sold enough 5's to have long lines, but too many were probably bought online, so that's why the Bethesda Row Apple Store had no line.

But, even if that was so, why have it for the 5C and not the 5S? So, I'm probably wrong.

At this point you have to be a special kind of stupid to wait in line for a smartphone launch.

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