Annual NFL Coaching Carousel

[mauf]

Dolphins owner Steve Ross declines to give Philbin a vote of confidence.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2013/12/ross-were-going-to-look-at-everything.html

 

[mauf]

Of the jobs open or likely-to-be-open, what's the best opportunity? I realize Houston is obvious but if Mike Smith goes in Atlanta, that might be the job with the most immediate upside because the QB is already in place.

As always, working for Snyder makes the Washington job the worst job available.

I think Cleveland is now the correct answer to this question. They had an excellent defense a year ago with similar personnel, and they're likely to get better QB play next season -- even standing pat personnel-wise and handing the reins to Hoyer or Campbell would be a significant improvement. And looking longer-term, they've got a few franchise cornerstone guys in place (Gordon, Thomas, etc.). Best of all, after firing a coach after just one season, management will practically be forced to be patient with the next guy.

 

[Jordu]

Getting ugly in Cleveland.

@MikeSilver: "One Browns player: 'We are so dysfunctional. These billionaires need to pick somebody and stay with them. These aren't girlfriends...' "

 

[dcmissle]

Per NFLN, Browns players stunned, bewildered and angry about coaching change that could come as early as tonight -- after one year. One player called the organization a joke.

 

[DJnVa]

Per NFLN, Browns players stunned, bewildered and angry about coaching change that could come as early as tonight -- after one year. One player called the organization a joke.

 
That's odd. Especially with the other text from a player calling him a douche.
 
It's not the HC's fault that they drafted Weeden. They traded Richardson, were building toward something, and they fire the guy after one season. There's gotta be something we're not hearing about.

 

[NortheasternPJ]

I think Cleveland is now the correct answer to this question. They had an excellent defense a year ago with similar personnel, and they're likely to get better QB play next season -- even standing pat personnel-wise and handing the reins to Hoyer or Campbell would be a significant improvement. And looking longer-term, they've got a few franchise cornerstone guys in place (Gordon, Thomas, etc.). Best of all, after firing a coach after just one season, management will practically be forced to be patient with the next guy.

 
Gordon is one fuck up away from being out for a year which is a huge factor. They have no QB at the moment, but they have a couple of first rounders.
 
If you're looking for a job, i'd take Houston with the #1 pick.

 

[Stitch01]

Holy shit I can't believe they fired Chud, Browns fans I know like him a lot

 

[CouchsideSteve]

If you're firing a Head Coach after one season - particularly a guy saddled with that QB mess - either your initial evaluation was horribly off or you're impatient and searching for a scapegoat. I see nothing wrong with recognizing a sunk cost and cutting your losses when the circumstances warrant, but I'm just not sure how you could look at the offensive talent Chud had to work with and expect better on-field results. (Haslam is now paying him $9M to go away.) One would have to think that any A-list candidate would be put off by the notion that his predecessor was hired and fired in the same calendar year.

 

[Super Nomario]

Chudzinski was hired 1/10. Lombardi was hired 1/18. Seems like a case of the GM wanting to bring in his own guy.

 

[Phragle]

 

[CouchsideSteve]

Chudzinski was hired 1/10. Lombardi was hired 1/18. Seems like a case of the GM wanting to bring in his own guy.

 
My understanding is that Joe Banner, who was Haslam's first hire last fall, has final authority on football operations. He actually worked with Lombardi in Philly back in the late-90s, so I think he probably had him top of mind when he was initially cleaning house after last season, even though Chud was technically hired first.
 
I'd guess Haslam was frustrated and looking to make a statement after the team fell apart down the stretch and Chud was an easy scapegoat that Banner was willing to go along with (we saw a similar reflex from Shad Kahn in JAX last season, firing Mularkey after one year). Of course, Banner can always throw Lombardi under the bus down the road to buy more time for himself.

 

[mauf]

If you're firing a Head Coach after one season - particularly a guy saddled with that QB mess - either your initial evaluation was horribly off or you're impatient and searching for a scapegoat. I see nothing wrong with recognizing a sunk cost and cutting your losses when the circumstances warrant, but I'm just not sure how you could look at the offensive talent Chud had to work with and expect better on-field results. (Haslam is now paying him $9M to go away.) One would have to think that any A-list candidate would be put off by the notion that his predecessor was hired and fired in the same calendar year.

Lombardi is tacitly admitting that his initial judgment was wrong. He may need to overpay his next coach, but unless he gets cheap all of a sudden, I think he'll be able to hire who he wants.

Edit: Not even Lombardi's hire.

 

[Morning Woodhead]

Could also be that they have a better coach lined up and wanted to move on it. Maybe BOB. They interviewed him last year before he decided to stay.

 

[soxhop411]

NBCWashington ‏@nbcwashington13m
BREAKING: The Redskins will fire coach Mike Shanahan when he meets with Dan Snyder Monday morning, sources told @NBCDianna. More: News4 now.

 

[Super Nomario]

Lombardi is tacitly admitting that his initial judgment was wrong. He may need to overpay his next coach, but unless he gets cheap all of a sudden, I think he'll be able to hire who he wants.

Lombardi didn't hire Chudzinski.
 
 

 
My understanding is that Joe Banner, who was Haslam's first hire last fall, has final authority on football operations. He actually worked with Lombardi in Philly back in the late-90s, so I think he probably had him top of mind when he was initially cleaning house after last season, even though Chud was technically hired first.
 
I'd guess Haslam was frustrated and looking to make a statement after the team fell apart down the stretch and Chud was an easy scapegoat that Banner was willing to go along with (we saw a similar reflex from Shad Kahn in JAX last season, firing Mularkey after one year). Of course, Banner can always throw Lombardi under the bus down the road to buy more time for himself.

It could be a Banner / Lombardi power struggle. Lombardi was initally hired as VP of Player Operations and then given the GM title four months later. Who knows what's going on behind the scenes there.

 

[Jim Lonborg]

Doesn't Lombardi have a man crush on McDaniels?

 

[MiketheCat]

a

 

[jacklamabe65]

Doesn't Lombardi have a man crush on McDaniels?

 
Yes.

 

[Rook05]

Doesn't Lombardi have a man crush on McDaniels?

Jason Cole on 98.5 this morning thinks it's 80% that Josh goes to Cleveland, which is his home town.

 

[mascho]

So McDaniels goes to Cleveland and drafts Manziel?

 

[Dgilpin]

In reference to the Chud and Browns situation, word on twitter was that the front office wanted him to cut a certain player a few weeks back to send a message to the team on accountability and Chud refused. Apparently their was also a season long disagreement on Brandon Weeden , Chud gave him way more chances than the front office wanted.

 

[mauf]

NFLN reporting that Frazier is out in Minnesota.

 

[mauf]

I forget how tampering issues are handled where assistants who are coaching in the playoffs are candidates for HC vacancies. Can someone refresh my recollection?

 

[( . ) ( . ) and (_!_)]

So McDaniels goes to Cleveland and drafts Manziel?

 
He is sending us 2 firsts and Larry Fitzgerald for Mallet.

 

[DJnVa]

 
He is sending us 2 firsts and Larry Fitzgerald for Mallet.

 
He's fucking unreal if he can get the Browns to send us Fitzgerald.

 

[bsj]

 
@MikeJonesWaPo
1m
Mike Shanahan and his staff have been fired.

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 Details

 

[dcmissle]

Interesting that whole staff has been clipped in DC. This has happened many times here, and they have often kept staff intact pending the new hire. There have been no leaks here about successor, and this place leaks like a sieve.

 

[TomRicardo]

Interesting that whole staff has been clipped in DC. This has happened many times here, and they have often kept staff intact pending the new hire. There have been no leaks here about successor, and this place leaks like a sieve.

 
You act as if there is a plan...

 

[bosox0192]

 
Cleveland plans to commence its head coaching search immediately, with New England Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and San Diego Chargers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt expected to be among the candidates, league sources told Schefter.
 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10212566/rob-chudzinski-fired-cleveland-browns-head-coach

 

[DJnVa]

Greg Schiano out in Tampa.
 
Ian Rapoport‏@RapSheet3m
The #Bucs have fired Greg Schiano and GM Mark Dominik, per team source

 

[loshjott]

So, is Talib calling BB around now to get Schiano on the Pats staff for the playoff run?

 

[bsj]

Golden parachute right into Happy Valley assuming BOB leaves

 

[DJnVa]

Schwartz out in Detroit.
 
Ian Rapoport‏@RapSheet3m
Jim Schwartz has been fired, per source.

 

[mascho]

NFLN saying Schwartz is done.

 

[mauf]

So that's six firings, with Munchak still twisting in the wind. Two years in a row with a Black Monday bloodbath.

 

[DJnVa]

Detroit would seem to be a pretty good job, especially for an offensive minded guy. Like, you know, McDaniels.

 

[H78]

It looks like Rex may end up being the only one who was on the fringe of being fired that's actually going to make it. I'm amazed that so many teams, with the money owed to some of these guys, are just gutting it now and cutting their losses.

 

[mauf]

Golden parachute right into Happy Valley assuming BOB leaves


Schiano was a defensive coach at PSU for several years, during the latter part of Sandusky's tenure. I don't blame Schiano for what happened, but I would be surprised if he's PSU's next head coach.

 

[TomRicardo]

It looks like Rex may end up being the only one who was on the fringe of being fired that's actually going to make it. I'm amazed that so many teams, with the money owed to some of these guys, are just gutting it now and cutting their losses.

 
Owning an NFL team is a license to print money even if you do it poorly.  If you do it well like the Krafts ...

 

[Stitch01]

Schwartz had to go.
 
Hes supposedly now a candidate in Cleveland, apparantly want to recreate the Mangini era.

 

[SouthernBoSox]

Yea, it feels like Schwartz really did less with more compared to the rest of the newly unemployed.

That's a roster that can win now with the right guy.

 

[Kenny F'ing Powers]

Detroit would seem to be a pretty good job, especially for an offensive minded guy. Like, you know, McDaniels.

 
Good. Get him the fuck off the Patriots. I'm OK with someone else doing the play calls. Fuck, let Brady be a player coach on the field (not serious, but kind of serious)...

 

[dynomite]

Does anyone think it will be telling if McDaniels turns down the Browns?

In other words, will McDaniels leave for a Head Coach job elsewhere unless he believes BB is retiring when Brady does and it will be his team?

 

[Dgilpin]

Well today is a good day for Lions fans, my personal preference for a replacement would be Ken Wisenhunt. However I feel Lovie Smith is going go be a very strong candidate

 

[Stitch01]

 
Good. Get him the fuck off the Patriots. I'm OK with someone else doing the play calls. Fuck, let Brady be a player coach on the field (not serious, but kind of serious)...

Occasionaly play calling quirks aside, McDaniels seems like a really good offensive coordinator.  Im not sure I want him as the eventual head coach but curious why you dislike him so much.

 

[luckiestman]

Anyone that can get Arizona to a superbowl should be a hot commodity

 

[( . ) ( . ) and (_!_)]

Occasionaly play calling quirks aside, McDaniels seems like a really good offensive coordinator.  Im not sure I want him as the eventual head coach but curious why you dislike him so much.

 
Because everyone is smarter then their team's offensive coordinator and defensive coordinators never, ever make a great call to counter act what offensive coordinators want to do.

 

[luckiestman]

Occasionaly play calling quirks aside, McDaniels seems like a really good offensive coordinator.  Im not sure I want him as the eventual head coach but curious why you dislike him so much.

He seems like an awful leader though. 

 

[Gunfighter 09]

Detroit would seem to be a pretty good job, especially for an offensive minded guy. Like, you know, McDaniels.

 
You have to win with what is there now though, they are in a really bad way Cap wise due to Megatron, Stafford and Su all being picked under the old draft salary structure.  

 

[Kenny F'ing Powers]

Occasionaly play calling quirks aside, McDaniels seems like a really good offensive coordinator.  Im not sure I want him as the eventual head coach but curious why you dislike him so much.

 
Easy.
 

 
Because everyone is smarter then their team's offensive coordinator and defensive coordinators never, ever make a great call to counter act what offensive coordinators want to do.

 
This.