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Good for RAC. Gonna have a lot of talent to coach in Houston. I'll be interested to know if BOB's plan is to try to "fix" Schaub or go in another direction.

Edit: Would add that Romeo deserves something good to happen to him for the way he handled himself and what he had to endure during that awful Belcher episode last year.
 

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Good for RAC. Gonna have a lot of talent to coach in Houston. I'll be interested to know if BOB's plan is to try to "fix" Schaub or go in another direction.

Edit: Would add that Romeo deserves something good to happen to him for the way he handled himself and what he had to endure during that awful Belcher episode last year.


I strongly suspect they will draft Bridgewater, but whatever the decision, it won't be BOB's to make.
 

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"Tony Dungy To Return To Coach The Lions? Calls Team, Owner A ‘Perfect Situation’"
 
I know full well this is yet another case of "blow up the importance of a passing remark and a subsequent tweet," but it got me thinking -- would this be a good thing for Sunday night viewers, or a bad thing for anyone sick of his sanctimony/bigotry?
 
If it did happen, at least we'd know with certainty where Chris Klewe would not be playing should he return to the NFL.
 

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I strongly suspect they will draft Bridgewater, but whatever the decision, it won't be BOB's to make.
 
There were rumors floating around that the Texans will trade down and get some more picks. It might depend on how they like the QB crop.
 

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maufman said:
I strongly suspect they will draft Bridgewater, but whatever the decision, it won't be BOB's to make.
 
Not that this changes anything that you wrote regarding the draft, but McNair went on record about this:
 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10238006/houston-texans-owner-bob-mcnair-open-trading-no-1-pick
 
Houston would be really silly not to listen to any teams calling about the pick. It isn't likely they get the same haul that Atlanta received for Jones or what the Rams received for RGIII but it would be foolish to ignore any potential trades. Reading a bit deeper, perhaps McNair feels Schaub can be rehabbed and their 2013 weaknesses were DB's and discipline. Or maybe he feels Mallet and a 3rd  for 1 year of Johnson is viable.
 

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I've been convinced for years that he is listening to a book on tape through his headset.
 
A dependable source claims that he is listening to Thomas Pynchon's V over and over again, "... until I finally get it."
 

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BoB hires Romeo to be his DC at Houston.
Cripe, if they trade the pick down to #5 or better it's possible that former NYG D-Line coach, Romeo Crennel, could coach a line with JJ Watts and Jadaveon Clowney. That might appeal to him.
 

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You'd have to guess there's a lot more to be had out of Schaub in the short-term that anyone they would draft, and the greater value would be in compiling extra early picks. Well, you don't have to guess that, but I do.
 

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Of all the shit that has happened with college bowl upsets and the nfl wild card round this shocks me more than anything. This shocks me more than Texas Tech beating ASU by 2 tds.
 

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Me too. 
 
I wouldn't read anything into this about when that might happen.  Cleveland is where careers go to die.  Josh would likely not have recovered from another high profile flameout so close to Denver, so passing on this was probably wise for that reason alone.
 
Plus reports were that he was not offered the job after the interview, so maybe he's feeling a bit disrespected or trying to cast this as his decision when it may not have been.
 

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Kubiak reportedly high on the list for the Dolphins OC position if he doesnt get a head coaching gig
 

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Guaranteed.  NFW Jay Gruden gets the 7M that Shanny did.
 
Also, looks like Hazlett stays as DC, I wonder if they flip back to a 4-3 now?
 
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I bet they will be paying Shanny more next year than Gruden. Skinstown!
 

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dcmissle said:
Me too. 
 
I wouldn't read anything into this about when that might happen.  Cleveland is where careers go to die.  Josh would likely not have recovered from another high profile flameout so close to Denver, so passing on this was probably wise for that reason alone.
 
Plus reports were that he was not offered the job after the interview, so maybe he's feeling a bit disrespected or trying to cast this as his decision when it may not have been.
 
Yep, that organization is a disaster right now.  They fired a 1st year coach who went 4-12 with a not very talented team that featured Brian Hoyer's backup getting the majority of snaps at QB.  The owner is being investigated for corporate fraud, and the GM seems like an insecure idiot.
 
I would have been STUNNED if McDaniels took that job
 

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Yep, that organization is a disaster right now.  They fired a 1st year coach who went 4-12 with a not very talented team that featured Brian Hoyer's backup getting the majority of snaps at QB.  The owner is being investigated for corporate fraud, and the GM seems like an insecure idiot.
 
I would have been STUNNED if McDaniels took that job
 
I'm actually more interested in why McD even interviewed for it
 

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I'm actually more interested in why McD even interviewed for it
 
Keep his name out there - it can't hurt, unless he blows the interview, which reportedly is quite the opposite of what happened (and he is known to perform very well in these settings).  Impressing people is always a winning strategy.
 
Also, maybe, being from Ohio and having a football connection to Lombardi, he thought he'd test the waters.  If they came in and blew him away, and then offered him the job on the spot, perhaps he considers it.
 

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Mystic Merlin said:
 
Keep his name out there - it can't hurt, unless he blows the interview, which reportedly is quite the opposite of what happened (and he is known to perform very well in these settings).  Impressing people is always a winning strategy.
 
Also, maybe, being from Ohio and having a football connection to Lombardi, he thought he'd test the waters.  If they came in and blew him away, and then offered him the job on the spot, perhaps he considers it.
 
If he's smart he knows he has one more shot about being a head coach, he has a list of requriements-final roster authority or control over the staffing and a particular (high) budget, control over football ops, enough guaranteed money that he doesn't get canned after two years, whatever--and if CLE was wavering on meeting his requirements then walking away makes great sense.
 

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Did Danny boy even watch the Bengals playoff game? Ye gods.
 
I have no idea if Jay Gruden is the right guy or not but judging a coordinator based on one playoff game doesn't seem particularly useful--even great coaches have shitty days.
 

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Shelterdog said:
 
If he's smart he knows he has one more shot about being a head coach, he has a list of requriements-final roster authority or control over the staffing and a particular (high) budget, control over football ops, enough guaranteed money that he doesn't get canned after two years, whatever--and if CLE was wavering on meeting his requirements then walking away makes great sense.
 
I do think he could be a very good coach someday, but final roster authority would probably be his downfall again. In a situation with a good GM who he was on the same page with, I think he could be successful.
 

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/07/report-mike-brown-liked-kaepernick-jay-gruden-wanted-dalton/
 
Apparently Jay Gruden talked Mike Brown out of taking Colin Kaepernick and into taking Andy Dalton because Dalton was a better fit for Gruden's offense.  Any time you can get the guy that pushed hard to draft Andy Dalton, you've got to do it.  Clearly RG3 will be a great fit for Gruden.
Mike Brown is a turd, and this screams ass covering for when they inevitably dump Dalton. It's easy to say that now, but Kaep had thrown something like five passes a game when he came out. Mike Brown hired Gruden, presumably signed off on the scheme, and added players to fit that scheme. Whether Gruden is a competent HC (and that's far from certain), I'd have to think he could design an offense to play to RGIII's strengths, with the added benefit of developing him as a passer.
 

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Shelterdog said:
 
I have no idea if Jay Gruden is the right guy or not but judging a coordinator based on one playoff game doesn't seem particularly useful--even great coaches have shitty days.
 
Ok, then how about their last 3 playoff games (13, 10, 13 points)? Only half kidding.
 

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 It's easy to say that now, but Kaep had thrown something like five passes a game when he came out.
 
This is 100% wrong.
 
Kaepernick took over in the 5th game of his freshman year and threw 247 passes that year, 383 as a sophomore, 282 as a junior, and 359 as a senior.
 

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This is 100% wrong.
 
Kaepernick took over in the 5th game of his freshman year and threw 247 passes that year, 383 as a sophomore, 282 as a junior, and 359 as a senior.
You're absolutely correct. Stupid point by me. There were questions about how Kaepernick's game would translate, particularly having come from a pistol-based offense, and TCU's was certainly more complex than UNR's. Don't get me wrong, Dalton is terrible, but this hindsight annointing of Kaepernick as a sure thing isn't the whole story either.
 

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tims4wins said:
 
Ok, then how about their last 3 playoff games (13, 10, 13 points)? Only half kidding.
 
They're certainly fair game.  Now I personally think that Dalton sucks eggs so the fact that the Begnals have gotten to the playoffs three years in a row and that the team has gone from 18th to 12th to 6th in points is much more telling but at three key games in different years you're beginning to have a body of work that's  worth looking at.
 

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You're absolutely correct. Stupid point by me. There were questions about how Kaepernick's game would translate, particularly having come from a pistol-based offense, and TCU's was certainly more complex than UNR's. Don't get me wrong, Dalton is terrible, but this hindsight annointing of Kaepernick as a sure thing isn't the whole story either.
There were definitely questions about Kaepernick (and arguably still are), but I don't think the bolded is a fair statement. First of all, I'm not sure the pistol is really less complex than other college offenses (even pro-style ones), and secondly, TCU ran read option concepts, too. But I do agree that criticizing Cincinnati for taking Dalton in the 2nd round is unfair, especially since a) Gabbert, Locker, and Ponder were all first-rounders that year, and b) Dalton and Kaepernick are probably the two best 2nd-round QBs taken since Drew Brees - no, really.
 

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I haven't a clue whether Jay is going to be any good or not.
 
Flogging him over Dalton seems a bit overdone -- particularly because many of the floggers would mount a vigorous defense of McDaniels, whose selection of Tebow in the first round dwarfs whatever mistakes Gruden may have made.  And besides, Gruden will have nowhere near the personnel say here that Josh had in Denver.
 
The interesting thing about this hire to me is that it is neither spectacular, shocking or expensive -- Snyder trademarks.  Keeping Hazlett, if they keep him, may be very intelligent and stunningly perceptive by Redskins' standards.  There are two guys on that D that you would want starting for you.
 

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Here's what I'd say--his offenses have scored a lot of points with a QB that a lot of people think sucks.
 
That said, picking Dalton over Kaepernick is clearly defensible. But saying that Kaepernick's style clashes with Gruden's offense should at least bring about a few questions since RGIII is presumably the man in DC.
 

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I haven't a clue whether Jay is going to be any good or not.
 
Flogging him over Dalton seems a bit overdone -- particularly because many of the floggers would mount a vigorous defense of McDaniels, whose selection of Tebow in the first round dwarfs whatever mistakes Gruden may have made.  And besides, Gruden will have nowhere near the personnel say here that Josh had in Denver.
 
The interesting thing about this hire to me is that it is neither spectacular, shocking or expensive -- Snyder trademarks.  Keeping Hazlett, if they keep him, may be very intelligent and stunningly perceptive by Redskins' standards.  There are two guys on that D that you would want starting for you.
 
Show your work. I doubt there's a single person bashing Gruden for Dalton who would say McDaniels did a bang-up job as a head coach/personnel guy in Denver.