Annual complaining about the All Star vote: 2014 edition
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Stephen Drew returns next week! If he's as good as some of us think, he'll blow past Jeter in no time
You know what's dumb---the talk on ESPN Radio I heard yesterday that since fans are voting for Nelson Cruz maybe HoF voters should take another look at the steroids guys as well.
Because those things are exactly the same you see. A player caught, punished, and presumably tested a lot more often now and putting up good numbers is hopefully clean and could theoretically be an All Star. A steroid guy like Palmiero's career is still tainted. It's not the same. At all.
Also, fans generally think their guys are innocent, so clean or not, they'll get votes from the home team.
Because those things are exactly the same you see. A player caught, punished, and presumably tested a lot more often now and putting up good numbers is hopefully clean and could theoretically be an All Star. A steroid guy like Palmiero's career is still tainted. It's not the same. At all.
Also, fans generally think their guys are innocent, so clean or not, they'll get votes from the home team.
I`d like some opinions on voting for the Sox. I don`t like voting for them because I`d like to see them get a break instead of the extra travel and the chance to give minor injuries a little time to heal. A few times players have not wanted to play but hasn`t the commish`s office stopped them from bowing out?
The top two catchers right now are Wieters, who may not play again this season, and McCann, who has been horrible. And Jeter is still leading Ramirez.
Why are Red Sox fans voting for AJ Pierzynski and not Xander Bogaerts? Like, for serious... I don't get it. There is no justification for it. If it's a popularity contest, Xander is exponentially more likable. If it's about performance, Xander is the far better player with far better numbers. If it's about simply voting for the laundry, then Xander should have a similar amount of votes. So WTF, Red Sox Nation? W. T. F.
Casual fans that are not Red Sox fans are more aware of AJ's name than Xander's. Plus, not much hype/competition for the catcher position.Snodgrass'Muff said:
Dan to Theo to Ben said:
At shortstop there is Xander at a 127 wRC+, Ramirez at 117 and then Aybar at 112, and finally Asdrubal Cabrera and Jose Reyes at 107 before we drop below 100. Xander is clearly the best bat, and is arguably the best overall even though Ramirez is the better defender.
At catcher we have Derek Norris, John Jaso, Chris Iannetta, Matt Wieters, Kurt Suzuki, and Hank Conger, at or above 120, Yan Gomes, Salvador Perez, Josmil Pinto, Alex Avila at or above 102 and Tyler Flowers and Jason Castro slotting in before we get to Pierzynski at 89.
There is a ton more competition at catcher and there are at least 12 players more deserving than AJ.
AJ likely has fans in Texas and especially Chicago who will vote for him. I don't think Red Sox nation is driving this particular bus.
You're missing the point. Casual fans are more aware of AJP as a name, than names like Norries et al.Snodgrass'Muff said:
The ASG voting is a popularity contest for the most part.
Kershaw, Cueto, and Wainwright all sporting sub-2 ERA's, has to be Kershaw to start one would think.
That's somewhat shocking to me.soxhop411 said:
Farrell has to bring another Sox player with him
In the "FU Red Sox this is 2014" department, old pal Brandon Moss makes the team (over zero Red Sox position players)
Farrell plans on taking out Jeter in the middle of a defensive inning, the final nail on the worst Red Sox ASG ever.
I'm not saying anyone should be over Moss, just that's been a terrible season and Moss wasn't expected to be an All-Star when he left this team.E5 Yaz said:
AL Reserves
Jose Abreu, Alexei Ramirez, Jose Altuve, Adrian Beltre, Michael Brantley, Yoenis Cespedes, Edwin Encarnacion, Alex Gordon, Brandon Moss, Derek Norris, Perez, Kurt Suzuki, Victor Martinez
Jose Abreu, Alexei Ramirez, Jose Altuve, Adrian Beltre, Michael Brantley, Yoenis Cespedes, Edwin Encarnacion, Alex Gordon, Brandon Moss, Derek Norris, Perez, Kurt Suzuki, Victor Martinez