Analysis of Celtics Games, '21-'22 Season

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It was impressive the were tied with a minute and half to go. White looked timid on the shot he missed and Jaylen’s three was horrid. The game was pretty much lost by then but Theis missing the layup sealed the deal.

Some of the lineups they had out there looked like a preseason game. Kornet, Hauser, Nesmith, all out there at once. It’s amazing the game stayed close.
 

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It was impressive the were tied with a minute and half to go. White looked timid on the shot he missed and Jaylen’s three was horrid. The game was pretty much lost by then but Theis missing the layup sealed the deal.
Yeah, that's a shot White makes 75 percent of the time, it seems.
 

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I think Giannis, Middleton and Holiday have proved time and again they can close out tight games. A close loss to a scrappy C's team last nite wouldn't have changed my opinion.

As I said in the game thread, I hope like hell these C's have solved the late-game problems that plagued them early in the season. With White in the lineup, the ball should move better late. I just want to see it.
I figured you'd say that wrt the Bucks, so I gave the examples of a few other teams, some of which haven't gone too far in the postseason recently, in order to focus the discussion.

EDIT: my question wasn't "what would you think of the Bucks if they lost to this Celtics team", but "what would you think of a good team that lost while missing a top-10 player + 2 good starters?"
 

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I figured you'd say that wrt the Bucks, so I gave the examples of a few other teams, some of which haven't gone too far in the postseason recently, in order to focus the discussion.
Sorry I missed that. Didn't mean to dodge your question. This is becoming a bigger deal that I intended. I love this current group of C's and realize they were extremely short-handed last nite, but is it really a stretch to have some questions about their ability to win close games?
 

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Sorry I missed that. Didn't mean to dodge your question. This is becoming a bigger deal that I intended. I love this current group of C's and realize they were extremely short-handed last nite, but is it really a stretch to have some questions about their ability to win close games?
Yeah, don't worry, don't want to make a big deal.

I think it's fine to have those questions; I just don't think last night's game tells us much one way or another as to how they'll do in those games.

When Tatum is playing, everything revolves around him late, as we saw in close games like Brooklyn. It's not so much the isoball of early this year, more that it's hard to know how the team will play late without its biggest threat (and no Horford).
 

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Sorry I missed that. Didn't mean to dodge your question. This is becoming a bigger deal that I intended. I love this current group of C's and realize they were extremely short-handed last nite, but is it really a stretch to have some questions about their ability to win close games?
You might have questions, but there is evidence in their ability. In 2022, they've won close games against Denver, Chicago, and NJ. Just to name a few.
 

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Sorry I missed that. Didn't mean to dodge your question. This is becoming a bigger deal that I intended. I love this current group of C's and realize they were extremely short-handed last nite, but is it really a stretch to have some questions about their ability to win close games?
If I am reading NBA.com correct, the Cs are 7-8 in Clutch games since 12.30.21, which is 17th in win percentage. That is not great but since clutch games are basically said to be coin flips, it's probably about average.

PHO is 20-5, which is amazing. DAL, at #2, is 16-5 (.762). CHI, as another example, is 5th at 15-10.

I've heard it mentioned a couple of times - would you rather your team make the playoffs having not played that well in clutch games or make the playoffs because they played well in clutch games? Seems like the 1st team has way more upside potential.

Unless there is some data that says that winning close games during the season has a causal relationship with success in the playoffs, which I've not seen and would be surprised seeing.
 

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Yesterday's game was interesting in a variety of ways.

Jaylen Brown had a 10 game 25+ point scoring streak snapped... but he had his second triple double of the season (and of his career), with 22 points, 10 rebounds, 11 assists, a steal (a Marcus Smart style rip of the ball out of Giannis' hands), a block, 4 turnovers, 5 fouls. He sat for a lot of the third after picking up his 4th file and then played the whole 4th. Brown shot 8-20 from the field but only 2-8 from three and 4 of 7 from the line. But that doesn't tell the whole story of his shooting game. He kind of had 3 shooting games: he started out shooting 2 for 10 from the field. Late in the seocnd quarter he hit a shot that started a 5 for 5 stretch. Then, in the 4th quarter, he shot 1 for 5. Without Tatum he had much greatee defensive attention, and he had mixed success in dealing with it. On the plus side, he picked up 5 or 6 assists in the first quarter alone, so he was able to move the ball when teams doubled him. On the down side, he had a tendency to drive into 1 on 3 or 4 type of traffic and get swallowed up or have his shot blocked, hence the poor shooting line. It seemed like he figured that out through the middle of the game, but then struggled in the 4th (some of those missed in the 4th were bad desperation heaves).

Marcus Smart had a strong game with 29 points, 7 assists, 1 rebound, 2 steals, 3 turnovers. Looseness with the ball was a problem for the Celtics throughout. Marcus shot 10 of 16 from the field including 7 of 12 from three (it was 7 of 10 at one point but he missed his last 2). Marcus shooting that well from three always worries me a bit because I fear that he will drift into Heat Check mode - but only a couple of this attempts fell into that category yesterday. He added some outstanding defense that should help his DPOY case. Marcus was especially dominant, as a shooter and facilitator, during the third quarter.

Daniel Theis might have played his best game as a Celtic. 22 points in the game on 8 of 12 shooting plus 5 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 turnover. He was 3 for 3 from behind the arc and 3 for 5 from the line. He scored 15 of his 22 in the third quarter, with a lot of help from Marcus.

Derrick White had a nice all around game: 19 points on 6 of 13 shooting, including 4 of 8 from 3. Six rebounds, 3 assists, 2 turnovers. Missed a key shot at the end where he got himself out of rhythm.

Grant was mediocre.

Pritchard led the bench with 12 points though it was not his best shooting game: 5 of 10 but only 2 of 7 from three. He had 5 points in the first half and then scored the first 5 points of the 4th quarter to erase a 5 point deficit, than added a nice fast break basket to close off his own scoring. As he drove to the basket with a defender gaining on him, it looked like it might be a chase-down block situation. But as he drove he made a little shift that took away the defender's path to the hoop and then made an unremarkable uncontested layup. Good basketball IQ is one of his strengths.

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Sam Houser chipped in 11 points off the bench - he shot 3 for 4 on threes in the first half and then, in the third quarter, he made a great cut allowing a driving Marcus to feed him for a layup. I think he might be #10 in the 8 or 9 man playoff rotation, ahead of...

Aaron Nesmith who, after seeming to get his act together with some good shooting garbage minutes, was the first Celtic off the bench last night. But he was a mess all game long with a poor line that doesn't full explain how bad he was. In 12 minutes, he was 0 for 3 (all threes) with a steal and 2 turnovers. The first turnover was a weak first quarter inbounds pass right after he entered the game that had Ime pulling the plug on him almost immediately. I don't know if he saw the floor again until Jaylen picked up his 4th foul in the third. I think he's behind Hauser now.
 

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The 07-08 team looked like total frontrunners and not ready to win against stiff playoff competition when it took 7 to beat Atlanta in a series that featured 4 blowout home wins and 3 close road losses.

Then they went and won slugfests against LeBron and then the Pistons. They’ll either prove they can do it or they won’t, but I don’t see any reason to draw conclusions from regular season tiny sample sizes. Life is too short for preemptive worrying.
 

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The 07-08 team looked like total frontrunners and not ready to win against stiff playoff competition when it took 7 to beat Atlanta in a series that featured 4 blowout home wins and 3 close road losses.

Then they went and won slugfests against LeBron and then the Pistons. They’ll either prove they can do it or they won’t, but I don’t see any reason to draw conclusions from regular season tiny sample sizes. Life is too short for preemptive worrying.
Cassell bailed us out in G1 of that Cleveland series and again early in G2 when Rondo was a Turnover machine. Iirc, we needed a jumper from PJ Brown to win another game too. Veterans teams and veteran players have to have an effect on these playoff numbers opposed to those of the reg season.
 

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Cassell bailed us out in G1 of that Cleveland series and again early in G2 when Rondo was a Turnover machine. Iirc, we needed a jumper from PJ Brown to win another game too. Veterans teams and veteran players have to have an effect on these playoff numbers opposed to those of the reg season.
They went 8-0 at home and 0-6 on the road through the first two rounds. They finally broke through on the road against Detroit in the conference finals after Detroit had swiped a game in Boston.

That team went 16-10 in the playoffs: 13-1 at home, and 3-9 on the road, I believe
 

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Yesterday's game was interesting in a variety of ways.

Jaylen Brown had a 10 game 25+ point scoring streak snapped... but he had his second triple double of the season (and of his career), with 22 points, 10 rebounds, 11 assists, a steal (a Marcus Smart style rip of the ball out of Giannis' hands), a block, 4 turnovers, 5 fouls. He sat for a lot of the third after picking up his 4th file and then played the whole 4th. Brown shot 8-20 from the field but only 2-8 from three and 4 of 7 from the line. But that doesn't tell the whole story of his shooting game. He kind of had 3 shooting games: he started out shooting 2 for 10 from the field. Late in the seocnd quarter he hit a shot that started a 5 for 5 stretch. Then, in the 4th quarter, he shot 1 for 5. Without Tatum he had much greatee defensive attention, and he had mixed success in dealing with it. On the plus side, he picked up 5 or 6 assists in the first quarter alone, so he was able to move the ball when teams doubled him. On the down side, he had a tendency to drive into 1 on 3 or 4 type of traffic and get swallowed up or have his shot blocked, hence the poor shooting line. It seemed like he figured that out through the middle of the game, but then struggled in the 4th (some of those missed in the 4th were bad desperation heaves).

Marcus Smart had a strong game with 29 points, 7 assists, 1 rebound, 2 steals, 3 turnovers. Looseness with the ball was a problem for the Celtics throughout. Marcus shot 10 of 16 from the field including 7 of 12 from three (it was 7 of 10 at one point but he missed his last 2). Marcus shooting that well from three always worries me a bit because I fear that he will drift into Heat Check mode - but only a couple of this attempts fell into that category yesterday. He added some outstanding defense that should help his DPOY case. Marcus was especially dominant, as a shooter and facilitator, during the third quarter.

Daniel Theis might have played his best game as a Celtic. 22 points in the game on 8 of 12 shooting plus 5 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 turnover. He was 3 for 3 from behind the arc and 3 for 5 from the line. He scored 15 of his 22 in the third quarter, with a lot of help from Marcus.

Derrick White had a nice all around game: 19 points on 6 of 13 shooting, including 4 of 8 from 3. Six rebounds, 3 assists, 2 turnovers. Missed a key shot at the end where he got himself out of rhythm.

Grant was mediocre.

Pritchard led the bench with 12 points though it was not his best shooting game: 5 of 10 but only 2 of 7 from three. He had 5 points in the first half and then scored the first 5 points of the 4th quarter to erase a 5 point deficit, than added a nice fast break basket to close off his own scoring. As he drove to the basket with a defender gaining on him, it looked like it might be a chase-down block situation. But as he drove he made a little shift that took away the defender's path to the hoop and then made an unremarkable uncontested layup. Good basketball IQ is one of his strengths.

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Sam Houser chipped in 11 points off the bench - he shot 3 for 4 on threes in the first half and then, in the third quarter, he made a great cut allowing a driving Marcus to feed him for a layup. I think he might be #10 in the 8 or 9 man playoff rotation, ahead of...

Aaron Nesmith who, after seeming to get his act together with some good shooting garbage minutes, was the first Celtic off the bench last night. But he was a mess all game long with a poor line that doesn't full explain how bad he was. In 12 minutes, he was 0 for 3 (all threes) with a steal and 2 turnovers. The first turnover was a weak first quarter inbounds pass right after he entered the game that had Ime pulling the plug on him almost immediately. I don't know if he saw the floor again until Jaylen picked up his 4th foul in the third. I think he's behind Hauser now.
Minor nitpick but I think Nesmith is still the 9th man (ahead of Hauser and Kornet). Hauser’s D is really bad and I don’t think Ime will risk any of that in the playoffs. Pretty sure last night was a case of Udoka riding the hot hand in a game where it was the perfect situation to coach like that (missing a good amount of players already)
 

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Minor nitpick but I think Nesmith is still the 9th man (ahead of Hauser and Kornet). Hauser’s D is really bad and I don’t think Ime will risk any of that in the playoffs. Pretty sure last night was a case of Udoka riding the hot hand in a game where it was the perfect situation to coach like that (missing a good amount of players already)
On a fully healthy squad, the ninth man is Theis.
 

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They went 8-0 at home and 0-6 on the road through the first two rounds. They finally broke through on the road against Detroit in the conference finals after Detroit had swiped a game in Boston.

That team went 16-10 in the playoffs: 13-1 at home, and 3-9 on the road, I believe
I was living in Charlotte at the time. Me and a Boston buddy drove to Atlanta for the Sat night G3 (could have been a Fri) and witnessed first hand The Josh Smith Experience. If it was your first time watching him you’d swear he was a 1st ballot HOFer. KG was the only Celtic who showed up.
 

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I don't know if he saw the floor again until Jaylen picked up his 4th foul in the third. I think he's behind Hauser now.
Nesmith played 3.5 minutes in the 2Q and 5 minutes in the 3Q. MIL was paying more defensive attention to him than Hauser; maybe that's because AN is close to Middleton.

I don't know if either AN or Doogie gets any non-garbage time during the playoffs but if the Cs need to go to someone, they are going to AN. Teams haven't been attacking Doogie when he's been on the floor during this last part of the season but during the playoffs, he would be targeted constantly.
 

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after last night, Playoff Bucks scare me a little less than before.
Agreed. Last night was great outcome all the way around. Hoping they can land in the #3 spot and the Bulls in the 1st round and then get TL back in time for what will likely be a 2nd war vs. the Bucks.
 

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Everyone keeps saying Hauser will get played off the floor, but I want to see it happen before I give up on him, because his shooting is very legit.

I know how much trouble he had moving laterally in college, but the Celtics defense is good at helping when guys get beat on the perimeter, or shading towards guys who might get beat.

Covering for short guys who can get shot over or taken in the post is harder, but I don't think Hauser will have those issues.

I can see there being matchups he's unplayable against, but there is no 2018 Warriors anymore; most teams have weak links on offense.
 

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Nesmith played 3.5 minutes in the 2Q and 5 minutes in the 3Q. MIL was paying more defensive attention to him than Hauser; maybe that's because AN is close to Middleton.

I don't know if either AN or Doogie gets any non-garbage time during the playoffs but if the Cs need to go to someone, they are going to AN. Teams haven't been attacking Doogie when he's been on the floor during this last part of the season but during the playoffs, he would be targeted constantly.
AN will get the nod (if needed) because he adds more defensive energy and #10 man would never be asked to be a scorer. BUT really don't expect to see AN in any meaningful situations in the playoffs (unless injuries happen).
 

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Everyone keeps saying Hauser will get played off the floor, but I want to see it happen before I give up on him, because his shooting is very legit.

I know how much trouble he had moving laterally in college, but the Celtics defense is good at helping when guys get beat on the perimeter, or shading towards guys who might get beat.

Covering for short guys who can get shot over or taken in the post is harder, but I don't think Hauser will have those issues.

I can see there being matchups he's unplayable against, but there is no 2018 Warriors anymore; most teams have weak links on offense.
I'm definitely interested in seeing if Hauser can turn into our Duncan or Straus next season.

I also haven't seen the "defensive liability" tag that keeps getting thrown around. He seems to understand what the C's are trying to accomplish on D
 

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I'm definitely interested in seeing if Hauser can turn into our Duncan or Straus next season.

I also haven't seen the "defensive liability" tag that keeps getting thrown around. He seems to understand what the C's are trying to accomplish on D
The concern is whether, in the postseason, teams can successfully gameplan to iso him and exploit his lateral movement problems.
 

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The concern is whether, in the postseason, teams can successfully gameplan to iso him and exploit his lateral movement problems.
If he ever reaches that point (in the next few seasons) of playing real playoff minutes that means his 3pt shooting is otherworldly and he's worked on his body/strength

He'd be long enough to challenge 3s, strong enough to switch in the paint for 5 seconds, and smart enough to funnel guys to TL/help D. Size matters;)
 

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I'm definitely interested in seeing if Hauser can turn into our Duncan or Straus next season.

I also haven't seen the "defensive liability" tag that keeps getting thrown around. He seems to understand what the C's are trying to accomplish on D
Hauser spent two seasons (the first of which he had to sit out as a transfer) learning defense in Tony Bennett's system at Virginia, so he fully understands what's required to play good defense. His ceiling at that end of the court isn't especially high, but he's a willing defender.
 

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I don't think you should take too much away from late season games that aren't must wins where guys sit. MIL wasn't exactly pushing it last night, and they didn't make any real effort to exploit the Celtics. That was very much a... yeah lets win but don't show them anything and don't get hurt game.
 

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I don't think you should take too much away from late season games that aren't must wins where guys sit. MIL wasn't exactly pushing it last night, and they didn't make any real effort to exploit the Celtics. That was very much a... yeah lets win but don't show them anything and don't get hurt game.
They tried to exploit Hauser a few times in a row early in the 4th, by having his guy screen for Holiday, and then having Jrue attack Hauser. The results weren't great, and they went away from it.

I am not saying that Sam Hauser is the 2nd coming of Kawhi Leonard, or even a good defender, but people keep asserting that he will get destroyed defensively, and I still am not seeing it, even though I expected to. Holding off judgement until I actually see him get exploited consistently.
 

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Re-watching the 4th quarter: from about the 7 minute mark, the lack of Tatum and Horford is really noticeable. The Celtics are trying to move the ball and play the right way, but they simply can't generate the offensive advantages you need in order to get the ball moving against a locked-in defense.

Jaylen is so much better as a secondary guy rather than primary, and Smart and White can't generate those advantages against a team like Milwaukee. The result was lot of nowhere possessions that looked like isoball at the end, but were forced into that because the team was missing its fringe MVP offensive engine.
 

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I don't think you should take too much away from late season games that aren't must wins where guys sit. MIL wasn't exactly pushing it last night, and they didn't make any real effort to exploit the Celtics. That was very much a... yeah lets win but don't show them anything and don't get hurt game.
It's not the end-all, be-all. BUT I'd take away more from last night's game than any game the Celtics played before Jan 1. The C's have developed an identity, driven by implementing IME's system throughout the roster.

IDK if I agree with the bolded above. I saw a Milwaukee team that played their BIG 3: 39, 39, 38 minutes - well over their season average. That was pretty much their first-round playoff rotation. They played hard/intense throughout. They went aggressively to the rim and packed the paint on D. That's what they do when they care.
 

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Jaylen has a few fingers on his right hand taped near the end of the game due to a blood thing. It wasn't a huge surprise that his next shot was in another time zone from the rim, and the one after wasn’t much better. He probably should have acted as more of a decoy at that point.

Hauser is no more exploitable than Pritchard and probably a lot less. He's a dropoff from the regulars to be sure, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get some run.

And fwiw, I'm low key hoping for an opening round Toronto series just to stop the fucking madness around here.
 
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On a fully healthy squad, the ninth man is Theis.
I think if everyone is healthy and playing well in the playoffs, the only bench players guaranteed to see real playing time are White and Grant. Pritchard and Theis will be on the court as situations (injuries, fouls, matchups) dictate, but it wouldn't be surprising to see either guy get <5 minutes in a close game. If Nesmith/Hauser/Kornet (the next 3 guys) play outside of garbage time, something has gone horribly wrong.
 

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Re-watching the 4th quarter: from about the 7 minute mark, the lack of Tatum and Horford is really noticeable. The Celtics are trying to move the ball and play the right way, but they simply can't generate the offensive advantages you need in order to get the ball moving against a locked-in defense.

Jaylen is so much better as a secondary guy rather than primary, and Smart and White can't generate those advantages against a team like Milwaukee. The result was lot of nowhere possessions that looked like isoball at the end, but were forced into that because the team was missing its fringe MVP offensive engine.
I remember one play where the ball went to Jaylen and 3 defenders collapsed on him in like a nano-second. It was so clear that the instant he touched the ball nearly everyone on the Bucks had stopping Brown as priority #1 and #2. That's a tough situation to be in for any player.
 

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I think if everyone is healthy and playing well in the playoffs, the only bench players guaranteed to see real playing time are White and Grant. Pritchard and Theis will be on the court as situations (injuries, fouls, matchups) dictate, but it wouldn't be surprising to see either guy get <5 minutes in a close game. If Nesmith/Hauser/Kornet (the next 3 guys) play outside of garbage time, something has gone horribly wrong.
I'd agree on Theis, but I think PP gets some run in the playoffs. His deep shooting has been quite impressive, and at least so far, I think he's able to not get hunted on defense. That could change in the playoffs, as you see more scheming than you do in the regular season. So, if he becomes unplayable on defense - he'll be stapled to the bench.
 

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I'd agree on Theis, but I think PP gets some run in the playoffs. His deep shooting has been quite impressive, and at least so far, I think he's able to not get hunted on defense. That could change in the playoffs, as you see more scheming than you do in the regular season. So, if he becomes unplayable on defense - he'll be stapled to the bench.
I think we'll seee something like an 8.2 man rotation. PP will play ( a little) and Theis will usually (but not always) be DNP-CD. If there are opponents where it makes sense to go bigger, Theis might get some minutes that would otherwise have gone to White or Pritchard.
 

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I remember one play where the ball went to Jaylen and 3 defenders collapsed on him in like a nano-second. It was so clear that the instant he touched the ball nearly everyone on the Bucks had stopping Brown as priority #1 and #2. That's a tough situation to be in for any player.
Tatum deals with that every night, which is crazy. I posted it in the Tatum thread, but only Lillard, Steph, and KD get blitzed more. I thought Jaylen played really well, he just isn’t the guy to create against a locked in set defense, and the Bucks turned it on down the stretch. He’s in the second picture, he gets blitzed a little over 3% of the time. This is pretty fascinating stuff IMO.

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Hauser spent two seasons (the first of which he had to sit out as a transfer) learning defense in Tony Bennett's system at Virginia, so he fully understands what's required to play good defense. His ceiling at that end of the court isn't especially high, but he's a willing defender.
Understanding it in a college half court game and physically executing against the best athletes in the world are two completely different things though. End or season games are also far different intensity levels and preparation levels than playoff games.
 

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Understanding it in a college half court game and physically executing against the best athletes in the world are two completely different things though. End or season games are also far different intensity levels and preparation levels than playoff games.
I never said he'd be able to execute it physically against the NBA elite, just that he's well-schooled in the fundamentals of good defense and will give his all at the end of the court. He wasn't a great defender at UVA, but at least the coaches know he'll be as good as his athleticism will allow.
 

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I was living in Charlotte at the time. Me and a Boston buddy drove to Atlanta for the Sat night G3 (could have been a Fri) and witnessed first hand The Josh Smith Experience. If it was your first time watching him you’d swear he was a 1st ballot HOFer. KG was the only Celtic who showed up.
They went 8-0 at home and 0-6 on the road through the first two rounds. They finally broke through on the road against Detroit in the conference finals after Detroit had swiped a game in Boston.

That team went 16-10 in the playoffs: 13-1 at home, and 3-9 on the road, I believe
I remember watching this run...and wondering, as a pretty casual basketball/NBA fan, what could possibly explain the home/road discrepancy. Soft team that would crumble on the road/under pressure? The end result suggests otherwise. Conclusively. Random variance that can happen in any short series (or three)? Possibly. Questionable officiating? Sure, wouldn't be the NBA without a bit of it here and there.

Hopefully this year's vintage rolls, regardless of who they match up with, or what the refs have to say about it.
 

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I’m getting a little concerned about a Raptors series. If Jaylen can’t play, that’s going to be an unbelievable circus of distraction
 

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I’m getting a little concerned about a Raptors series. If Jaylen can’t play, that’s going to be an unbelievable circus of distraction
We continue to worry about this even though a good reporter would have sussed out his ineligibility by now, if he was ineligible?
 

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We continue to worry about this even though a good reporter would have sussed out his ineligibility by now, if he was ineligible?
i think they have tried really hard. Jaylen is a smart guy. He is either unvaxxed or strongly feels that he doesn’t need or shouldn’t say that he is vaxxed
 

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I’m getting a little concerned about a Raptors series. If Jaylen can’t play, that’s going to be an unbelievable circus of distraction
The Jaylen rumors are based on a single NBA reporter, and that reporter will never, ever be confused with Woj. That same reporter has already whiffed badly on his claims that Horford is unvaccinated, which have since been debunked in a big way.
 

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i think they have tried really hard. Jaylen is a smart guy. He is either unvaxxed or strongly feels that he doesn’t need or shouldn’t say that he is vaxxed
Let's hypothesize, just for the sake of argument, that Jaylen is unvaccinated.

League policy for unvaccinated players includes a lot of restrictions.

https://www.nba.com/news/nba-releases-protocols-to-teams-for-virus-safety-this-season
Among the rules for unvaccinated players: They will not be able to eat in the same room with vaccinated teammates or staff, must have lockers as far away from vaccinated players as possible, and must stay masked and at least six feet away from all other attendees in any team meeting.

Further, unvaccinated players will be “required to remain at their residence when in their home market,” teams were told in the draft of the rules, a copy of which was obtained by The Associated Press. They will also need to stay on team hotel properties when on the road. In both cases, there are limited permissible exceptions — such as going to buy groceries, taking children to school and the like.

And unvaccinated players also will not be permitted to visit “higher-risk settings,” the NBA said, such as restaurants, bars, clubs, entertainment venues, and large indoor gatherings.
Given the nature of the restrictions, a whole lot of people would know. Anyone in the Celtics organization who has access to locker rooms (ie, cleaning and maintenance staff) would know if Brown's locker is as far away from the rest of the team as possible. Likely, staff at any team visited by the C's would also know.

Can a young star player in the NBA spend an entire season confined to the team hotel during road trips without word of that getting out?

Too many people would have to be in the know here for it to remain secret.
 

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Given the nature of the restrictions, a whole lot of people would know. Anyone in the Celtics organization who has access to locker rooms (ie, cleaning and maintenance staff) would know if Brown's locker is as far away from the rest of the team as possible. Likely, staff at any team visited by the C's would also know.
Everyone knows where JB's locker is from KG video. It's in the middle.

edit: video below. JB's locker is next to AN.

View: https://youtu.be/krWHu01xfW8?t=40
 
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