Analysis of Celtics Games (2020-2021)

[lexrageorge]

I don't quite understand the angst over the minutes.

Come playoff time, Tatum/Brown are going to go 40 each; Kemba 30, and Smart probably 35. Theis/Thompson/RWill will probably rotate in for 40 combined, although how those minutes play out remains to be seen, and there will be a lot of game-to-game variation. That leaves 55 minutes. If Pritchard continues his progress, he'll average 20, especially if Kemba needs some time off. Not sure where Teague fits in at this point, but Kemba insurance is insanely valuable at this point.

So 35 minutes will be spread between Grant, Semi, and maybe Romeo. Really only need 2 of them to average 15 meaningful minutes in the playoffs. Javonte is available for situational minutes, and Waters as deep depth in case of injury. And we'll see what happens with Fall. And this will probably be a development year for Nesmith.

Last night seemed like the perfect balance between giving the young players a lot of rope while also playing to beat a potential playoff team.

 

[lovegtm]

I don't quite understand the angst over the minutes.

Come playoff time, Tatum/Brown are going to go 40 each; Kemba 30, and Smart probably 35. Theis/Thompson/RWill will probably rotate in for 40 combined, although how those minutes play out remains to be seen, and there will be a lot of game-to-game variation. That leaves 55 minutes. If Pritchard continues his progress, he'll average 20, especially if Kemba needs some time off. Not sure where Teague fits in at this point, but Kemba insurance is insanely valuable at this point.

So 35 minutes will be spread between Grant, Semi, and maybe Romeo. Really only need 2 of them to average 15 meaningful minutes in the playoffs. Javonte is available for situational minutes, and Waters as deep depth in case of injury. And we'll see what happens with Fall. And this will probably be a development year for Nesmith.

Last night seemed like the perfect balance between giving the young players a lot of rope while also playing to beat a potential playoff team.

If Semi and Grant continue to play as well as they have, it takes away a ton of minutes pressure.

 

[benhogan]

I don't quite understand the angst over the minutes.

Come playoff time, Tatum/Brown are going to go 40 each; Kemba 30, and Smart probably 35. Theis/Thompson/RWill will probably rotate in for 40 combined, although how those minutes play out remains to be seen, and there will be a lot of game-to-game variation. That leaves 55 minutes. If Pritchard continues his progress, he'll average 20, especially if Kemba needs some time off. Not sure where Teague fits in at this point, but Kemba insurance is insanely valuable at this point.

So 35 minutes will be spread between Grant, Semi, and maybe Romeo. Really only need 2 of them to average 15 meaningful minutes in the playoffs. Javonte is available for situational minutes, and Waters as deep depth in case of injury. And we'll see what happens with Fall. And this will probably be a development year for Nesmith.

Last night seemed like the perfect balance between giving the young players a lot of rope while also playing to beat a potential playoff team.

After the first 10 games, there really shouldn't be any angst over the wing depth. Brad could really limit the bench wings playoff use (less than your 35mpg) if he thought they were fringe players (which they aren't).

Using your Playoff mpg: Brown 40, Tatum 40, Smart 35, Kemba 30

All Brad would need to do is rotate TL/TT/DT at the 5 for 48mpg
PP & GT play the 31 ex-Smart & Kemba minutes
Then find 16mpg from a combo of Semi, Grant, Romeo, Nesmith, Greene.

Brad just needs to continue using the regular season to try different rotations/players. Danny should still consider adding talent since Tre/Carsen are redundant, injuries happen and every roster spot (incl 2 ways) will be necessary this season.

 

[Koufax]

"Redundant" is too kind a word.

 

[lovegtm]

"Redundant" is too kind a word.

Maybe in the British sense?

 

[Koufax]

I stand corrected. "Redundant" is the perfect word.

 

[reggiecleveland]

Semi is mostly still doing Semi stuff, but he has added the ability to effectively drive closeouts. It is huge. He's running the floor on fast breaks like a guy who knows what he's doing. And he's getting to the rim when guys overcommit to a closeout and not crapping his pants when he gets there. It's a kind of a leap, since he hasn't shown that whatsoever before. Plus, banging 3s at a pretty high rate is nice too.

Exactly he's a Ballplayer now.
It just clicks sometimes. You draft these (Hubie voice) high upside guys and if they figure it out you have something.

Jaylen Brown is the high end example.

 

[TripleOT]

Exactly he's a Ballplayer now.
It just clicks sometimes. You draft these (Hubie voice) high upside guys and if they figure it out you have something.

Jaylen Brown is the high end example.

If you take a look at some of the Drew Hanlen’s summer workout youtube videos you can see how the improvements happened.

Three summers ago, Hanlen was teaching him how to catch and shoot. The next summer, there was some driving and finishing. This past iff season, there is scrimmage video of semi actually making NBA offensive moves, like pulling up for three off the break.

 

[PedroKsBambino]

Semi's game improving takes pressure off the lack of wing depth in a big way. I hope it is real and continues---I'm optimistic right now. Walker coming back helps as well, as that effectively frees up Smart to play some wing as well. IF those guys are both really rotation players/healthy it gets them out of the problem that too many of their playable reliable guys are bigs as well.

Fingers crossed...I'm on record that the smarter play was to add a wing, but it remains the case they can develop their way out of it too

 

[lovegtm]

...
Fingers crossed...I'm on record that the smarter play was to add a wing, but it remains the case they can develop their way out of it too

Wouldn't be the first team to do so. Also worth noting that the bar for the Celtics in the draft is a lot lower than that of a rebuilding team. They just have to find 2-3 role-players, rather than #1/2 options to lead a franchise.

The Spurs run is the clearest example of this model.

 

[benhogan]

Semi's game improving takes pressure off the lack of wing depth in a big way. I hope it is real and continues---I'm optimistic right now. Walker coming back helps as well, as that effectively frees up Smart to play some wing as well. IF those guys are both really rotation players/healthy it gets them out of the problem that too many of their playable reliable guys are bigs as well.

Fingers crossed...I'm on record that the smarter play was to add a wing, but it remains the case they can develop their way out of it too

That's fair. The development of Payton going forward really cements Smart's role as a wing (and Gordon's replacement).

In a month or two (and once all is well?) Marcus doesn't need to be on the floor without Kemba or Payton or Teague. That really takes the pressure off Danny to do anything rash.

 

[wade boggs chicken dinner]

So Semi Ojeleye, who many SOSHers would have traded for a bag of golf balls and who admittedly was pretty close to not being re-signed from all reports, is now leading the Cs in ORtg (minimum 150 minutes) at 121. He's shooting 42.4% from 3P and has a career high in many stat categories, including USG% and Rebs. Best of all, he seems to have a new-found confidence in attacking close-outs, all while playing what appears to be pretty sturdy defense.

For example, this article states: "In the over nine minutes guarding Rui Hachimura, Aaron Gordon, Blake Griffin, and Pascal Siakam, he’s held those marquee players to a combined two points in his matchups."

Also from that article: only 10 players from the 2nd round of the 2017 draft are still in the NBA, and he's one of them.

Probably doesn't need a thread of its own but I wanted to take a moment to appreciate him and also suggest that he's probably pricing himself out of BOS next year.

 

[lovegtm]

So Semi Ojeleye, who many SOSHers would have traded for a bag of golf balls and who admittedly was pretty close to not being re-signed from all reports, is now leading the Cs in ORtg (minimum 150 minutes) at 121. He's shooting 42.4% from 3P and has a career high in many stat categories, including USG% and Rebs. Best of all, he seems to have a new-found confidence in attacking close-outs, all while playing what appears to be pretty sturdy defense.

For example, this article states: "In the over nine minutes guarding Rui Hachimura, Aaron Gordon, Blake Griffin, and Pascal Siakam, he’s held those marquee players to a combined two points in his matchups."

Also from that article: only 10 players from the 2nd round of the 2017 draft are still in the NBA, and he's one of them.

Probably doesn't need a thread of its own but I wanted to take a moment to appreciate him and also suggest that he's probably pricing himself out of BOS next year.

Yeah, it's bonkers to think, but he absolutely will be tough to retain if he keeps playing like this, since he's a UFA. He looks like a completely different guy putting the ball on the floor now.

 

[wade boggs chicken dinner]

The attached tweet has the weighted average age (by playing time) of all NBA teams. LAL The leaguewide weighted average age is 26.3. As the tweet says, "[t]he Lakers, Clippers, and Jazz are at the top end (around 29), while the Wolves, Thunder, and Hawks are at the low end (around 24)."

Unless one calls ATL (24.3 years; however, Rondo and Gallianari have been on the court for combined total of under 60 minutes) a contender, the Cs are the youngest of any contender at 25.3 years.

Follow up tweets have some specific info on various teams.

View: https://twitter.com/presidual/status/1346168801327386624

 

[DannyDarwinism]

This might be my favorite thread trend in the Cellar right now, outside of the Pritchard sploogefest. He’s been great in his role, and it looks sustainable, which would be huge for the team going forward.

I didn’t realize he’s another Hanlen client, so I just watched a bunch of videos of them working out, and you can see a lot of the stuff he’s added to his game this year is a product of that work.

He still does not have a steal or block this season, which is wild, but we’ve covered that ground enough here, and I’m generally happy with his defense. He makes life tough for opposing PFs by getting them off their spots, denying any penetration, and nearly always contesting. Moves his feet well for his size (Nesmith should be taking notes. Maybe get a Hanlen referral) so he’s able to switch seemlessly onto guards.

He’ll always be a pretty limited player, but it’s really cool to see his hard work translate to progress. Gotta think that’s an example Brad loves having in his locker room.

 

[Cesar Crespo]

Probably doesn't need a thread of its own but I wanted to take a moment to appreciate him and also suggest that he's probably pricing himself out of BOS next year.

He has one and I almost bumped it to ask just how good he is but decided against it.

This year he is at 6.7 3PA/36, his career mark is 4.5. His career high was 5.4 in 2018/19. And just to bump the brakes a little bit, this year he's been great but he's 14/33 from 3. Not really much a sample.


I'd also still like to acquire another big/big wing who can shoot a little because I'm not entirely convinced Semi and Grant will continue to shoot at above average rates and Williams isn't a volume guy anyway.

I think PP is going to be a .380+ guy so I'm not worried about him, and with Kemba coming back soon, the C's have more than enough guards who can shoot.

From an offensive stand point, Kemba returning solves like 90% of the C's problems (play making, another scorer). After that, the only real need is the big wing/stretch 4 guy who can maybe even play the 5 a little to give the C's a different look. Someone with preferably more size than Grant and Semi.

Although I'd still love someone like Zach LaVine if he ever become available. I think long term, the C's should be looking to find a tallish guard who is an offensive threat around the Jays age. Though cycling out a Kemba every couple years works too.

 

[benhogan]

nm

 

[NomarsFool]

So, does Tristan Thompson have the worst hands in the NBA? It's amazing to me how often we someone hitting him with a pass that bounces off or he in unable to collect cleanly and make a shot.

 

[BigSoxFan]

So, does Tristan Thompson have the worst hands in the NBA? It's amazing to me how often we someone hitting him with a pass that bounces off or he in unable to collect cleanly and make a shot.

Giving me Perk flashbacks

 

[Deathofthebambino]

Jeff Teague was AWFUL today. That's all I got.

 

[NomarsFool]

Hardly anyone clothed themselves in glory today. Jaylen was the only one that didn’t suck.

 

[Imbricus]

It was like everyone decided to have their worst game of the year, at the same time. Jaylen was fine, but even he bobbled the ball a few times. Actually, I thought Javonte looked decent. Kemba seemed to be moving well, but there was plenty of rust on the in-game shot.

What I found interesting was the Celts were struggling against the length of the Knicks. They're a smallish team (Danny seems to like shortish guys), so I'm wondering if that could be a problem against big teams.

 

[chilidawg]

What I found interesting was the Celts were struggling against the length of the Knicks. They're a smallish team (Danny seems to like shortish guys), so I'm wondering if that could be a problem against big teams.

Especially true without Tatum.

 

[Jimbodandy]

It was like everyone decided to have their worst game of the year, at the same time. Jaylen was fine, but even he bobbled the ball a few times. Actually, I thought Javonte looked decent. Kemba seemed to be moving well, but there was plenty of rust on the in-game shot.

What I found interesting was the Celts were struggling against the length of the Knicks. They're a smallish team (Danny seems to like shortish guys), so I'm wondering if that could be a problem against big teams.

Could be old age memory, but I swear that we had a game against the Knicks last year where their length made our offense look pretty bad too. We sure would remember looking this bad, but it's ringing a bell.

Shit happens, like this game. Which was shit.

 

[128]

It was like everyone decided to have their worst game of the year, at the same time. Jaylen was fine, but even he bobbled the ball a few times. Actually, I thought Javonte looked decent. Kemba seemed to be moving well, but there was plenty of rust on the in-game shot.

What I found interesting was the Celts were struggling against the length of the Knicks. They're a smallish team (Danny seems to like shortish guys), so I'm wondering if that could be a problem against big teams.

Time Lord would have helped today.

 

[lovegtm]

I wonder which NBA team doesn’t look small when you take away its two longest guys.

 

[Imbricus]

I wonder which NBA team doesn’t look small when you take away its two longest guys.

This is true, but on how many NBA teams are the longest guys 6' 8" (excepting Tacko)? I know Rob plays a lot bigger than that, but still, we must be one of the shorter teams in the league. Detroit and New York, e.g., seem to draft more for size. Danny's sweet spot is 5' 10" to 6' 6".

 

[benhogan]

This is true, but on how many NBA teams are the longest guys 6' 8" (excepting Tacko)? I know Rob plays a lot bigger than that, but still, we must be one of the shorter teams in the league. Detroit and New York, e.g., seem to draft more for size. Danny's sweet spot is 5' 10" to 6' 6".

Danny (and most of the NBA) also add in wingspan, reach and strength when they consider "size". Height is just another one of those variables.

I wouldn't take a lot from yesterday's game other than the Knicks came out with purpose (off a 5 game losing streak). AND the Celtics were getting in from an after-hours party at Smart's place Saturday night.

Since we're discussing height, I'll just add that at one point Nesmith was switched on to Mitchell Robinson (7' and long) and AN didn't seem that small. If you squint you can see a guy that could possibly guard (switch) 2-5 down the road

 

[NomarsFool]

I mean, how they possibly expect to be competitive against the Knicks without Tacko?

 

[bellowthecat]

Looked like they came in with a game plan to get Kemba the ball on every possession during his first stint out there regardless of the results. The turnovers mounted, the Knicks gained momentum, and the Celtics couldn't turn it around. I did not enjoy seeing Green and Ojeleye on the floor together one bit. Always going to miss Tatum, but they really missed Timelord in this one.

 

[lovegtm]

I don’t think there’s much to analyze when a team lays a Sunday afternoon egg. On to Cleveland.

 

[128]

I don’t think there’s much to analyze when a team lays a Sunday afternoon egg. On to Cleveland.

Yeah, as horrible as that performance was, it was clearly an aberration and as such is not difficult to move on from. I found the back-to-back games against Detroit more frustrating, in some ways.

 

[128]

View: https://twitter.com/celtics/status/1352373255307481090

 

[128]

Tatum must have had some kind of setback. Otherwise this makes no sense.

 

[Cesar Crespo]

10 to 14 days, it's been 12.

 

[128]

10 to 14 days, it's been 12.

Stevens said yesterday that Tatum had resumed workouts and might be able to play Friday nite. If that were not a possibility because not enough time had elapsed, the C's would have made that clear, I would think.

 

[RorschachsMask]

Stevens said yesterday that Tatum had resumed workouts and might be able to play Friday nite. If that were not a possibility because not enough time had elapsed, the C's would have made that clear, I would think.

He did say Friday was 50/50 at best. After TL didn’t get in the game last night, I figured Tatum wouldn’t be back until Sunday.

 

[Cesar Crespo]

With the PP injury, this team really needs another sniper. Teague is ok but I did some research on PP and am convinced he's close to an elite shooter and the C's will miss that. They probably needed a sniper anyway, preferably a stretch 4 who can switch on defense.

I think Kemba will help a lot but he's not the sniper they need if Marcus Smart is only hitting 30-32% of his 3 pointers. I mentioned in the Smart thread that I'm never sure which why his 3 point % is going to go. I could easily see him getting back up to 35-37% or catering below 30%.

I've liked Semi this year and Grant has been better of later but I'm really not convinced they are the answer to the "big wing that can shoot/switch" question. They are also shooting .353 and .360 from 3 respectively, league average is .365. If they can stay at their current %, they definitely have a role to play on the team but snipers they are probably not.

The only guys on the roster I'm convinced are above average 3 point shooters are Tatum, Kemba, PP and Brown. Then you have Teague who you can probably feel comfortable about to hit 35-36% of his 3s. Grant and Semi don't have much of a track record so are questionable, Smart is probably a below average shooter.

I don't think we'll realize how much the PP injury hurts either because Kemba will be around. But having both would be huge.

The C's are in a position where they can play it out and see what happens but I'm pretty sure they will end up needing the player we all knew they would need.

 

[lovegtm]

With the PP injury, this team really needs another sniper. Teague is ok but I did some research on PP and am convinced he's close to an elite shooter and the C's will miss that. They probably needed a sniper anyway, preferably a stretch 4 who can switch on defense.

I think Kemba will help a lot but he's not the sniper they need if Marcus Smart is only hitting 30-32% of his 3 pointers. I mentioned in the Smart thread that I'm never sure which why his 3 point % is going to go. I could easily see him getting back up to 35-37% or catering below 30%.

I've liked Semi this year and Grant has been better of later but I'm really not convinced they are the answer to the "big wing that can shoot/switch" question. They are also shooting .353 and .360 from 3 respectively, league average is .365. If they can stay at their current %, they definitely have a role to play on the team but snipers they are probably not.

The only guys on the roster I'm convinced are above average 3 point shooters are Tatum, Kemba, PP and Brown. Then you have Teague who you can probably feel comfortable about to hit 35-36% of his 3s. Grant and Semi don't have much of a track record so are questionable, Smart is probably a below average shooter.

I don't think we'll realize how much the PP injury hurts either because Kemba will be around. But having both would be huge.

The C's are in a position where they can play it out and see what happens but I'm pretty sure they will end up needing the player we all knew they would need.

Yeah, the offense would really sing with a Bertans/Joe Harris type.

 

[NomarsFool]

Any prognosis yet? 2 weeks is much different than 6. It’s a shame, as with Kemba back I was hoping to see much less of Jeff Teague. Nothing against the guy, but like last year when your 3rd string PG is getting 20 minutes a night he looks like crap.

 

[lovegtm]

I know it's the Cavs (who actually aren't that bad now), but last night was a good example of how the biggest adjustment for this team isn't lineups, it's everyone doing the same shit, but harder and better. Particularly on defense. They have too many good defenders to be this bad--it's effort and communication.

A shooting wing is still a necessity to compete for a title imo, but they absolutely should be a top 4-5 team in the East whenever 2 of Tatum/Brown/Kemba can play.

 

[wade boggs chicken dinner]

With the PP injury, this team really needs another sniper. Teague is ok but I did some research on PP and am convinced he's close to an elite shooter and the C's will miss that. They probably needed a sniper anyway, preferably a stretch 4 who can switch on defense.

I think Kemba will help a lot but he's not the sniper they need if Marcus Smart is only hitting 30-32% of his 3 pointers. I mentioned in the Smart thread that I'm never sure which why his 3 point % is going to go. I could easily see him getting back up to 35-37% or catering below 30%.

I've liked Semi this year and Grant has been better of later but I'm really not convinced they are the answer to the "big wing that can shoot/switch" question. They are also shooting .353 and .360 from 3 respectively, league average is .365. If they can stay at their current %, they definitely have a role to play on the team but snipers they are probably not.

The only guys on the roster I'm convinced are above average 3 point shooters are Tatum, Kemba, PP and Brown. Then you have Teague who you can probably feel comfortable about to hit 35-36% of his 3s. Grant and Semi don't have much of a track record so are questionable, Smart is probably a below average shooter.

I don't think we'll realize how much the PP injury hurts either because Kemba will be around. But having both would be huge.

The C's are in a position where they can play it out and see what happens but I'm pretty sure they will end up needing the player we all knew they would need.

Well Semi's actually at .372 last night and if you take away the NYK game, he's hitting .432. Yes I know that's cherry-picking so if he hits one of his 6 shots at NY, then he's shooting .395. Of course that's what happens one has a 43 shot small sample size.

But Scal mentioned that Semi has gotten rid of a hitch in his shot and he thinks Semi will shoot well enough to stay in the NBA for years.

As for GWill, we've talked about him a lot. As you note, he's at .360 for the year but he was killing it from 3 in the bubble so that's disappointing. He's also somehow shooting .364 from the FT line. The NBA was always going to be a bigger adjustment for him than most draftees but he works super hard so hopefully a light switch will come on in the near future.

 

[benhogan]

Well Semi's actually at .372 last night and if you take away the NYK game, he's hitting .432. Yes I know that's cherry-picking so if he hits one of his 6 shots at NY, then he's shooting .395. Of course that's what happens one has a 43 shot small sample size.

But Scal mentioned that Semi has gotten rid of a hitch in his shot and he thinks Semi will shoot well enough to stay in the NBA for years.

As for GWill, we've talked about him a lot. As you note, he's at .360 for the year but he was killing it from 3 in the bubble so that's disappointing. He's also somehow shooting .364 from the FT line. The NBA was always going to be a bigger adjustment for him than most draftees but he works super hard so hopefully a light switch will come on in the near future.

Agree with all of this. Semi shot 38% on 3 last season. He looks even more confident this season with putting the ball on the floor and attacking the rim. To the eye test, his pocket with his 3pt stroke looks better.
I'll go out on a limb and say he shoots 40% from 3 for the season. Clearly, he deserves bench wing minutes over Granite.

Grant, sigh. Disappointing so far. While highly intelligent and self-aware I'm afraid he gets up in his head too much. I expect he'll eventually develop a corner 3pt shot which adds a lot of value around Kemba/JayCrew

 

[128]

With the caveat that all of his minutes, even the ones that came in the first half, essentially came in garbage time, Nesmith did some nice things at the offensive end last nite, and he didn't look lost on defense. Baby steps.

 

[shoelace]

With the caveat that all of his minutes, even the ones that came in the first half, essentially came in garbage time, Nesmith did some nice things at the offensive end last nite, and he didn't look lost on defense. Baby steps.

Agreed, he looked very smooth here:

https://www.nba.com/stats/events/?GameEventID=619&GameID=0022000250&Season=2020-21&flag=1&title=Nesmith 11' Jump Shot (5 PTS)&sct=plot
Carsen Edwards also played very well in garbage time, including finishing a layup through contact. With Kemba out tonight, he has a chance to grab some minutes. Hopefully both of these young dudes can build on their performances last night.

 

[benhogan]

Agreed, he looked very smooth here:

https://www.nba.com/stats/events/?GameEventID=619&GameID=0022000250&Season=2020-21&flag=1&title=Nesmith 11' Jump Shot (5 PTS)&sct=plot
Carsen Edwards also played very well in garbage time, including finishing a layup through contact. With Kemba out tonight, he has a chance to grab some minutes. Hopefully both of these young dudes can build on their performances last night.

It's been said on the broadcast but Carsen really needs to take it to the hoop first before he goes into 3pt launch mode. I also like that he fights through screens at the top. That can earn him a few more minutes.

I still like the idea of Nesmith getting at least 4-5 mpg (instead of DNP-CD). Just live with the regular season results and see if he develops by the playoffs.

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

Carsen at least has NBA quickness and leaping ability to boot. For a little guy he does flash some ability to get to the rim (against bad defense but still). Maybe he puts something together. When he has looked bad it's usually because he's forcing it too much. His size/D will be limiting but could he be a hot pocket scorer? It's possible, and he is at least feisty, if very handsy, on D. He is certainly several steps up from Waters who is simply overmatched on an NBA court.

 

[wade boggs chicken dinner]

With the caveat that all of his minutes, even the ones that came in the first half, essentially came in garbage time, Nesmith did some nice things at the offensive end last nite, and he didn't look lost on defense. Baby steps.

well, to my eyes, it wasn't like the Cavs were running a lot of super sophisticated motion that Nesmith had to defend. Still, if the game can keep slowing down for him, that would be great.

It's been said on the broadcast but Carsen really needs to take it to the hoop first before he goes into 3pt launch mode. I also like that he fights through screens at the top. That can earn him a few more minutes.

I never understood people who thought Waters was a better prospect than CE. CE has NBA range, that's for sure, and he certainly (as the clip below shows) has NBA athleticism for a 5'11" guard.

I keep thinking back to Shake Milton and Duncan Robinson. Both of them are, well, defensively-challenged (although I think it is more effort on Milton's part than Robinson's part) but they were force-fed minutes and they learned how to score/shoot in the NBA. Would like to see CE get minutes too even if it results in some losses as his scoring is something that the 2nd unit sorely lacks.

https://twitter.com/search?q=carsen edwards&src=typed_query&f=live

 

[reggiecleveland]

Teague played 12 minutes and didn't shoot.
12 minutes 2 turnovers 1 assist.
That is not an easy line to attain.

 

[NomarsFool]

Agree with all of this. Semi shot 38% on 3 last season. He looks even more confident this season with putting the ball on the floor and attacking the rim. To the eye test, his pocket with his 3pt stroke looks better.
I'll go out on a limb and say he shoots 40% from 3 for the season. Clearly, he deserves bench wing minutes over Granite.

Grant, sigh. Disappointing so far. While highly intelligent and self-aware I'm afraid he gets up in his head too much. I expect he'll eventually develop a corner 3pt shot which adds a lot of value around Kemba/JayCrew

Nesmith with another airball last night, though. A miss is a miss - so not a big deal. It's interesting, though, that he's had some airballs on pretty low volume. Just nerves, I'm sure. I'm glad CBS is getting him some minutes - but my plan after the draft that he'd be able to contribute this season isn't looking great. Time will tell, though.

Not sure what is going on with GW. After getting some starts, he didn't see any action until absolute garbage time against Cleveland (he didn't show up in the first half, right?). As Scal mentioned on one of the broadcasts, GW needs to be able to get some buckets while he's out there to be a rotation player - and he just doesn't seem to be able to do it. I think he got blocked when he tried to post up last night (again). I had been surprised that he wouldn't be able to have more of a lowpost game in certain matchups, but maybe the issue is that someone just comes over and helps when he does that. So, his offense likely needs to come from moving without the ball on cuts and catch and shoot threes.